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#61 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    I'll say the guy marries her, but for different reasons. Marriage is a no lose for the guy. Worst case is he is the son-in-law of the Governor of Alaska. That should be worth a job someplace. Best case he is son-in-law of VP, which would probably get him into a better position than he would have ever have gotten if he never knocked her up. And, should anything happen to McCain, he really would be in a position where he could set himself up for life.
Yeah! As long as the job involves "just fuckin' chillin'" he should excel!

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    Originally posted by drjayphd

    Which makes today the perfect time to start the really deep, intensive vetting process (blogs.kansas.com), doesn't it? I'm not sure it's time to start drawing the Eagleton comparisons, but the Palin pick hasn't exactly been as much of a boon as it could be so far. Lotta potential with her, but also a lot of risk.


Even better, according to The LA Times McCain's campaign basically just GOOGLED HER!

I think the local cafe my newly retired Mother just started working at did more digging before they hired her.



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#63 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.02
I hope the father doesn't marry her just so I can hear someone say "My Baby Mama's Mama is the Vice President"!

(God I hope Obama wins).





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#64 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.04
    Originally posted by Zundian
      Originally posted by drjayphd

      Which makes today the perfect time to start the really deep, intensive vetting process (blogs.kansas.com), doesn't it? I'm not sure it's time to start drawing the Eagleton comparisons, but the Palin pick hasn't exactly been as much of a boon as it could be so far. Lotta potential with her, but also a lot of risk.


    Even better, according to The LA Times McCain's campaign basically just GOOGLED HER!

    I think the local cafe my newly retired Mother just started working at did more digging before they hired her.


And here's McCain's response (corner.nationalreview.com) as filtered through NRO.

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#65 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.27
Mr. Boffo, your post about Sarah not really being her baby's mother is interesting...but if we're supposed to believe that Bristol is the mother, there's the little problem that she would have had to get pregnant with the one she's carrying now *before* she gave birth to Trig, and that just don't happen. So unless there's a greater deception going on, or Sarah was covering up for someone else's pregnancy, then I think we have to discount that. In fact, what I heard was that they disclosed Bristol's pregnancy precisely in order to quash the story that Trig was Bristol's child. Still, one does wonder why SP was so casual about her pregnancy.

In any event, it's a really sad commentary on today's political realities that there's a website called bristolpalinpregnant.com.

As for the Alaska Independence Party story, it seems that in fact Palin's *husband* was a member. Dan Savage's blog has a post making the point that if it had come out that Michelle Obama had once belonged to an organization that wanted to seceed from the USA, the shitstorm would have been huge.
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#66 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.81
    Originally posted by Lise
    I feel very bad for her. No 17 year old should EVER be up for the scrutiny of the entire nation, especially not while pregnant.


I would hope before accepting the VP nomination, Palin discussed it with her family and made sure they were OK with the inevitable scrutiny that would come with such a decision.

Making that assumption, the daughter had to have some inkling that this would come up - if her mother didn't advocate denying girls such as her own daughter access to information on birth control, it wouldn't really be an issue, but the fact his her mother does so it's news. The daughter (and mother) HAD to know this was coming well before the decision was made that the elder would run for the vice presidency.

I feel worse for the people - like Palin's daughter - who are denied access to crucial, basic sex education - thanks to people like Palin's daughter's mother - for absolutely no good reason.
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#67 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.92
    Originally posted by AWArulz
    The choice was to have the baby, rather than to abort. The daughter could have aborted, without her parent's permission. That is the choice she made. Not to get pregnant, but what to do after the baby existed.

    and I also believe they will get married. I also would guess it won't happen until after the baby is born. That is, today, what I have seen after children have made errors in judgment in Christian communities and got pregnant - the baby is born, the children grown a bit more (because, they are clearly both still children), and then marry.

    It's always tricky when kids make babies.



It is tricky and I hope you are correct. Unfortunately, when marriage occurs under these circumstances and at her age, it seldom ends well, Christian or not.

I also agree this is alot for a 17 yo to deal with but her mother certainly knew what would happen and the scrutiny. I hope for the families sake this all goes away.

I actually from a personal perspective wonder how the baby with Downes Syndrome will fare if she is elected. But that is a family matter, not national political fodder.



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#68 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.13
    Originally posted by Peggy Noonan and Michael Murphy, after appearing on some show on MSNBC
    Noonan: [Can't hear since Todd (who is still on air) is talking over her]

    Murphy: Um, you know, because, I come out of the blue swing state governor world. Engler, Whitman, Tommy Thompson, Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush, I mean, and these guys, this is all how you win a Texas race, just run it up, and it's not gonna work.

    Noonan: It's Over.

    Murphy: Still, McCain can give a version of the Lieberman speech and do himself some good.

    Todd: [can't really tell what he says, but he mentions something about "insulting to Kay Baily Hutchinson]

    Noonan: I saw Kay this morning...

    Todd: She's never looked comfortable up there..

    Murphy: They're all bummed out.

    Todd: I mean, is she really the most qualified woman they can obtain?

    Noonan: The most qualified? No. I think they went for this, excuse me, political bullshit about narratives...[couldn't hear the end of it]

    Todd: Yeah, but what's a narrative?

    Murphy: I totally agree.

    Noonan: Every time Republicans do that, because that's not where they live and it's not what they're good at, they blow it.

    Murphy: You know what's the worst thing about it, the greatest of McCain is no cynicism, and..

    Murphy and Todd together: This is cynical.

    Todd: And as you called it, gimmicky.




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My favorite was "Two conservative commentators on MSNBC" as the title. As if anyone on MSNBC is actually conservative. Conservative compared to Olbermann, I guess.

    Originally posted by Dr. Dirt
    I actually from a personal perspective wonder how the baby with Downes Syndrome will fare if she is elected. But that is a family matter, not national political fodder.


Careful, Doc - don't be one of those guys who seem to think only liberal women are allowed to be equal and have the same jobs as men. Dems (and for that matter, all rightminded people) have been fighting for equal rights for women for years. And it applies, but apparently, only if your name is Hillary or something. Girl's got a passel of kids - she knows how to take care of 'em.

(edited by AWArulz on 3.9.08 1806)


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#70 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.24
    Originally posted by AWArulz
    My favorite was "Two conservative commentators on MSNBC" as the title. As if anyone on MSNBC is actually conservative. Conservative compared to Olbermann, I guess.
I will spare you the YouTube clips, but I can vouch for both Peggy and Mike being undeniably conservative. (Also, SUPER SEXY.)



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#71 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.92
    Originally posted by AWArulz
    My favorite was "Two conservative commentators on MSNBC" as the title. As if anyone on MSNBC is actually conservative. Conservative compared to Olbermann, I guess.

      Originally posted by Dr. Dirt
      I actually from a personal perspective wonder how the baby with Downes Syndrome will fare if she is elected. But that is a family matter, not national political fodder.


    Careful, Doc - don't be one of those guys who seem to think only liberal women are allowed to be equal and have the same jobs as men. Dems (and for that matter, all rightminded people) have been fighting for equal rights for women for years. And it applies, but apparently, only if your name is Hillary or something. Girl's got a passel of kids - she knows how to take care of 'em.

    (edited by AWArulz on 3.9.08 1806)


This isn't an equal rights issue and I wouldn't care who it is male or female. For Libs or Cons, family should come first. One of the great myths IMHO is that we can have it all. My wife and I have both sacrificed many things for our daughter and that is the way it should be. Equal rights doesn't abrogate our duty to the children we create.

If elected, I hope she is up to the task.



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#72 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.33
    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by AWArulz
      My favorite was "Two conservative commentators on MSNBC" as the title. As if anyone on MSNBC is actually conservative. Conservative compared to Olbermann, I guess.
    I will spare you the YouTube clips, but I can vouch for both Peggy and Mike being undeniably conservative. (Also, SUPER SEXY.)


Your word, I will take for this, Zed. I must admit, MSNBC is set to skip at my house. I get plenty of that viewpoint on other stations.

Of course, there are disagreements about vice presidential choices - bet we could have had some really nasty ones if we had discovered an open mike after Biden was chosen at the Katie Couric desk or whatziz name, Clinton's press secretary.



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#73 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.29
The "betting on whether the daughter and the guy will get married" thing is more than a little sick, if you ask me.

In any event, I liked Obama's reaction to the whole thing-- "The candidates' families are to be off-limits in this campaign."

(edited by ekedolphin on 3.9.08 1828)


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#74 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.19
Yeah, he just sics Norah O'Donell on them She lives in his camp anyway





Norah O'Donnell has 1 1/2 year-old twins -- and a 1-month old. Meanwhile, her husband owns three restaurants -- and she is in Minnesota covering a political convention for a week!

Who's watching her kids during this presidential race this year?

(edited by AWArulz on 3.9.08 1959)


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You wanted the best, you got... Out of Context Quote of the Week.

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    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    In any event, I liked Obama's reaction to the whole thing-- "The candidates' families are to be off-limits in this campaign."


Someone didn't give Kellyanne Conway that memo. No clue when it'll be up, but here's the page (onpointradio.org) for the segment of "On Point" where she just blew her entire foot off. As much as she said "let's talk about the issues" in regards to Gov. Palin, she sure seemed to do everything but that, playing the entire deck of victim cards when it comes to Bristol Palin and oh, this wouldn't happen if Gov. Palin was a MAAAAAAN.

If you want to guide the discussion to the issues, it'd be a good idea to bring up the issues, at least beyond using the phrase "that abortion nonsense" in reference to her pro-life stance. If I was on the fence, the Republicans and conservative commentators, at least so far, have done a REALLY bad job of selling me on the McCain/Palin ticket.



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Peggy Noonan has followed up on her salty language. (online.wsj.com)



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#77 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.46
    Originally posted by AWArulz


    Your word, I will take for this, Zed. I must admit, MSNBC is set to skip at my house. I get plenty of that viewpoint on other stations.



      Am I the only one on the board that likes Olbermann? He clearly isn't for everybody and I would never try to convince someone who 'despises' him to like him, but I enjoy his coverage/slant/angle whatever you want to call it. Then again I'm also starting to really enjoy Rachael Maddow, and I'm sure that will make a few peoples head spin.

      As for Palin, why is the press being called sexist and bullies for wanting to know more about her? For wanting to ask her question directly? Obviously she is being brought up to speed on a lot of issues, and yes her son is deploying for Iraq this weekend which even I am willing to cut some slack for ... but come on. This is a person who is stepping on the playing field to be Vice President of the United States, she's going to be a 72 year old's heartbeat away from the top seat in the country. I think we are entitled to know more about her than she shot a winning free throw and hunts for moose.

      Also if I hear her use the line about being a mayor of a small town is different that community organizer, because there is 'actual responsibility' again I might puke. I hate the fact that she is getting a free pass. I hate that she has been allowed so far to be the doe eyed beauty who is allowed to have the tongue of a snake.

      This election has been dragging on for what seems like forever, but we are only 60 days away now. Simply being a pretty face, who is anti abortion and delivered one well timed speech might be enough for some people. It's quite possible the Republicans are trying to figure out what they have here, bhe longer she is kept under wraps the longer a suspisious person like myself thinks suspisous thoughts.

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#78 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.71
I like Keith Olbermann. A lot. This comes as a shock to absolutely no one.
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#79 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.45
I also like Olbermann and Maddow. A lot.



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#80 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.22
I also enjoy watching Keith Olbermann on MSNBC; but I also enjoy watching Bill O'Reilly on Fox News. While both men are incredibly full of themselves, and they each spew enough manure in a week to fertilize all of Central Park, I consider both men to be extremely intelligent, and I find their respective television programs to be consistently entertaining and insightful.



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