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Says the AP. Now I'll await the text message.

Joe is a wonderful choice.



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They are apparently already discussing "the plagarism thing" on CNN.



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Should be a solid choice as VP, though while Biden has a tendency to sometimes stick his foot in his mouth, most of the time he's a very effective speaker and he'll be a riot in the debates.

If you're John McCain, now, how do you best counter this? Since Obama went with the 'old white guy as running mate' approach, McCain would be wise to pick someone that doesn't fit the GOP party stereotype of old, white, male WASPs. Maybe someone like Bobby Jindal or Eric Cantor would help get McCain a bit of the 'change' buzz from Obama. Adding Mitt Romney to the ticket (according to the rumour mill) would add less than nothing, unless McCain wants a running mate who has even more houses than he does.



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I really like this pick. An Al Gore swerve would have been interesting, but this is the smartest choice.
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Biden was my choice for President way back when there were eight democratic candidates. I'm very pleased that Biden gets the silver medal. He was clearly the smartest choice.




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Nuh uh. Not here. Not this time.



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    Originally posted by Big Bad
    Should be a solid choice as VP, though while Biden has a tendency to sometimes stick his foot in his mouth, most of the time he's a very effective speaker and he'll be a riot in the debates.

    If you're John McCain, now, how do you best counter this? Since Obama went with the 'old white guy as running mate' approach, McCain would be wise to pick someone that doesn't fit the GOP party stereotype of old, white, male WASPs. Maybe someone like Bobby Jindal or Eric Cantor would help get McCain a bit of the 'change' buzz from Obama. Adding Mitt Romney to the ticket (according to the rumour mill) would add less than nothing, unless McCain wants a running mate who has even more houses than he does.


If you're McCain, you're celebrating. Biden brings a boatload of negative baggage with him and was easily the worst candidate Obama could have realistically picked from the field of primary candidates. I have no doubt that the GOP is going to remind us of just how arrogant and gaffe prone Biden has been in the past. I also have no doubt that we're (actually you're, since I don't have television anymore) going to be seeing the greatest hits/gaffes of Obama and Biden along with questions about their competence and preparedness in this year's attack ads.

As for McCain's pick, I doubt it matters for most conservatives unless McCain goes way outside the box. Barring a miracle, like McCain picking Lugar, I won't be voting for him in the fall and I'm certainly not the only one who feels that way among my friends and acquaintances.

Personally, I suspect I'll be voting for either none of the above or a write-in this year since I can't stomach any of the four major party candidates.

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    Originally posted by bash91
    Biden brings a boatload of negative baggage with him and was easily the worst candidate Obama could have realistically picked from the field of primary candidates.


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    Originally posted by bash91
    Biden brings a boatload of negative baggage with him and was easily the worst candidate Obama could have realistically picked from the field of primary candidates.

    Personally, I suspect I'll be voting for either none of the above or a write-in this year since I can't stomach any of the four major party candidates.


Really, none of the above?

When only three more posts like that winner qualifies you for a John McCain key chain??


Hackery aside, I think it's the smart choice for Obama. Given that the poll trend shows it's not going to be a blowout, Biden is the best available guy to reassure the in-play voters that may find Obama to be "too much change".

Strategically, I think this will tend to shore up Obama's base, and leave McCain with a path to victory that involves defending the entire Bush '04 map, which would be quite the tightrope act if the flyboy can pull it off.

I think McCain's play in return is to choose a woman. I don't think Pawlenty can get him Minnesota, Romney has too many homes, Jindal is "too much change", Ridge would get the evangelicals into full revolt. Pawlenty is McCain's safe choice, Kay Bailey Hutchinson may be the "hail mary" he needs to mix this up. (Any other GOP women he might be able to use here?)



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.12
I suppose Condi Rice.

This race just got a whole lot more interesting.



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    Originally posted by StevieRichards
    I suppose Condi Rice.


If he picks someone that deep inside the Bush administration, Obama can start rehearsing his acceptance speech now. McCain needs to run as far away from Bush as humanly possible.


EDIT: Oh, and I fucking love Joe Biden and could not be happier. He's a bit moderate for my tastes, but it's like August J Pollak said on his blog this morning:

"There's an even better way to frame Biden's personality, and despite what people are worried about, I think it's his greatest asset: In simplest terms, Joe Biden is an enormous asshole. And frankly, I love him for it. He's the type of asshole who's an asshole because he knows, right out of the gate, that he's smarter than you, that he knows more about a subject, and that he actually has the right idea about something. And damn it people, it's time to finally try having someone who's not ashamed of that instead of pretending to be an idiot just to pander.

[...]

Biden is the one person who might actually be able to deflect criticism appropriately- he's the only one who, when faced with attacks like "in 2005 you said you'd be thrilled to run with John McCain", he might actually respond with the equivalent of "well, yeah, that was before I found out John McCain was a fucktard." Hell, he might even say exactly that. And he'd be right.

McCain has two major weaknesses- he's incredibly short-tempered, and he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. Biden is going to attack both, and he's going to do it in a way the media will love. He's everything necessary to be the ying to Obama's yang. Biden is perceived as flawed while Obama needs to shrug the mocked stigma of being a flawless messiah. Obama is the insightful, visionary newcomer. Biden is the established attack dog. Obama has compassion; Biden has rabies."


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I think he'll pick Romney, to solidify the base of conservatives. The mavericks are already voting for McCain, he needs the conservatives.

A woman - the governor of Alaska has been floated - Sarah Palin. She's kind of like Obama - only held a minor state off prior to becoming a governor a couple years ago. Conservative. She's younger than Obama (44).

She's an unknown though. Not much chance. Romney.



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Palin actually would've been a great choice, but she's been embroiled in scandal recently up in Alaska over her allegedly railroading a public official due to a family dispute. Plus, given Ted Stevens and Don Young's issues, the GOP might not want anyone to take too close a look at Alaska.



How is it that I am a good actor? What I do is I... pretend to be the person Im portraying. Youre confused. Case in point: in Lord of the Rings, Peter Jackson comes to me and says I would like you to be Gandalf the Wizard, and I said You are aware that I am not really a wizard? and Peter Jackson said I would like you to use your acting skills to portray a wizard for the duration of the show. So I said Okay and then I said to myself Mmm.. How do I do that? And this is what I did: I imagined that I was a wizard, and then I pretended, and acted, in that way on the stage. How did I know what to say? The words were written down for me in a script. How did I know where to stand? People told me where to stand." -- Sir Ian McKellen, Extras
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    Originally posted by Eddie Famous
      Originally posted by bash91
      Biden brings a boatload of negative baggage with him and was easily the worst candidate Obama could have realistically picked from the field of primary candidates.


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I said realistically, which I thought excluded Edwards and Mike "Let's stalk a prosecutor's children" Gravel from the equation but maybe, as one of his constituents, you've got a lower opinion of Obama's common sense than I do.

    Originally posted by TheOldMan

    Really, none of the above?

    When only three more posts like that winner qualifies you for a John McCain key chain??

And if you'd bothered to pay attention instead of trying to earn your hack merit badge, you might have noticed that everything I've written about McCain on this site has been negative. I said back in January (The W) that I'd never vote for him and I meant it. My thinking that Joe Biden was a horrible pick has absolutely nothing to do with John McCain and everything to do with my opinion that Biden is essentially worthless to Obama.

Seriously, what's Biden bring to the campaign? He's from Delaware, which wasn't in play. As the 5th most senior senator, he's not exactly a good representative of Obama's change meme. He's got a significant honesty problem. He's maybe better than Obama on foreign policy, but that's damning with faint praise. He's got a tendency to say some remarkably stupid things about topics on which he's not informed. He's particularly horrible when it comes to non race-related civil rights. His most significant legislative achievements are the Violence against Women act, which even the ACLU doesn't like and has had substantial portions declared unconstitutional, and shepherding the the pretty much universally despised 2007 bankruptcy reform legislation through the Senate.

Tim

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