Originally posted by ScreamingHeadGuyIt also made the champion look weak losing to, what I had always considered, a pair of undercarders.
There is a vast difference between genuinely losing a match, and consciously DECIDING to give up the W in favor of demolishing them on the spot. No one in the audience, aside from a cynic or a smark, looked at Batista and thought he looked weak for losing by DQ, when clearly it is what Batista wanted.
Batista looked badass. His stock went UP, in my opinion.
As for the topic - people really need to get off this "it's just a full-nelson" high horse. Finishers have credibility if you establish credibility. Jake Robert's DDT? People's Elbow? Hogan's LEG DROP? Ultimate Warrior's SPLASH? COme on, these are all moves that were *given* credibility by the booking. Besides, who even USES a full-nelson nowadays? Most casuals haven't really seen it used much. I'm not saying Chris Masters is necesarily the superstar of the future or anything, but man have people judged this guy far too quickly. If you hate the way WWE is presenting him, fine, but give the guy a chance - he's had like 3 matches, and he's really pretty decent on the mic.
Originally posted by BendyStrawsFinishers have credibility if you establish credibility. Jake Robert's DDT?
Agreed with 99% of your post, but I'll contest this part.
Sorry, but getting dropped forehead-first onto the mat, and rather violently at that, is what sold Jake's DDT...not any booking behind its use. It was the visual that made us believe in its effectiveness.
Originally posted by BullittSorry, but getting dropped forehead-first onto the mat, and rather violently at that, is what sold Jake's DDT...not any booking behind its use. It was the visual that made us believe in its effectiveness.
My point was that he was not the only one using a DDT. Others used it as a non-finisher. Jake's DDT was booked to be sold as death, and that's why it was credible as a finisher - because of the booking.
Dean, your dissection of the guard no-selling the titties moved me to tears. The way a painted up strumpet with a fake pair of breasts can invoke such pathos, such sadness, such longing for a time now passed into the mists of memory...