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Since: 11.7.02
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#41 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
A Blockade is impossible. Here's why.

1. You esitmate it will take 200,000 troops to "blockade" Iraq. It would have to be MUCH higher.

2. Iraq has a number of hills and valleys on their frontiers, especially in the north and in the east. You would literllay have to have troops in these valleys and on the mountains to actually secure the border.

3. The concept of US troops snadwiched between Iraqi and Iranian troops doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy. And let's face it, Iran and Syria are'nt going to be real cooperative in allowing us to do this.



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#42 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.44
    Originally posted by Enojado Viento
    If it's such a nice fantasy what's YOUR solution?


Well, as long as reality plays no part in it, I say we exile Saddam to the moon.

Also, making Saddam look like a bitch on television does nothing. Who is going to be embarassed by? Will he be embarassed that his people see him this way? Will he be embarassed that his lover, Jacques, sees him this way? Will his regime crumble? No, no, and no. The Iraqi people by and large won't see it. Maybe Saddam orders a power outage when he gives the speech. And these are problems ASIDE from Hussein's complete and total lack of credibility.

The only solutions here are disarmament a la 1441, or getting Saddam out of there. (Or just leaving it alone, I suppose.)

(Edited for spelling)

(edited by PalpatineW on 13.3.03 0832)


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Since: 12.3.02
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#43 Posted on

    Originally posted by Grimis
    A Blockade is impossible. Here's why.

    1. You esitmate it will take 200,000 troops to "blockade" Iraq. It would have to be MUCH higher.

    2. Iraq has a number of hills and valleys on their frontiers, especially in the north and in the east. You would literllay have to have troops in these valleys and on the mountains to actually secure the border.

    3. The concept of US troops snadwiched between Iraqi and Iranian troops doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy. And let's face it, Iran and Syria are'nt going to be real cooperative in allowing us to do this.



So an invasion is a perferable solution, in your eyes? I'm asking here, because it seems like the US runs the same risks you mention whether we're in country or not. I'm not coming down on you--these are some of the same reasons I'm against it, and the fact that Iran has a nuclear weapon ready or close to it doesn't exactly assuage my concerns.








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Since: 11.7.02
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#44 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29

    Originally posted by Enojado Viento
    So an invasion is a perferable solution, in your eyes?

I don't think there is a perferable solution because this should've been taken care ofa long time ago. But I would certainly rather have invade and be sure that we get the son of a bitch as opposed to surrounding him and hoping for the best.



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Since: 12.3.02
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#45 Posted on

    Originally posted by Grimis

      Originally posted by Enojado Viento
      So an invasion is a perferable solution, in your eyes?

    I don't think there is a perferable solution because this should've been taken care ofa long time ago. But I would certainly rather have invade and be sure that we get the son of a bitch as opposed to surrounding him and hoping for the best.



I won't deny the world will get IMMEDIATELY better once Saddam is hanging by his heels from a Baghdad lamppost, but where does that put us after it? Then we'll be mopping up the remnants of his power structure and even worse, sandwiched between, at least two hostile powers and one that could go against us anytime.




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It also sandwiched Iran between US (remember, we are still in Afghanistan). I still remember the Axis of Evil, and I would not be one bit surprised if we turn our eyes towards Iran after Iraq is finished. Maybe not to invade- but perhaps the military might present will help that government crumble on its own.

Then we can deal with the hardest of the 3, North Korea...




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Since: 11.7.02
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#47 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29

    Originally posted by Enojado Viento
    I won't deny the world will get IMMEDIATELY better once Saddam is hanging by his heels from a Baghdad lamppost, but where does that put us after it? Then we'll be mopping up the remnants of his power structure and even worse, sandwiched between, at least two hostile powers and one that could go against us anytime.

But let's be realistic; we will do that anyway. Don't kid yourself into thinking that US troops will not be in Iraq after the fall of Hussein, invasion or not. The US will be there to pick up the pieces regardless.



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