Is it appropriate, in political correctness terms, to use the word "wigger" (especially given its derivation)?
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Personally, I wouldn't use it among the general public. In my opinion, it's meant to be derogatory to both the white kids and the black kids that they immitate, so I could understand if someone found it offensive.
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Originally posted by JaguarIn my opinion, it's meant to be derogatory to both the white kids and the black kids that they immitate, so I could understand if someone found it offensive.
Agreed.
On a sidenote, I personally find the term offensive.
I wouldn't use it in business conversation of any level of casualness, so I wouldn't use it at all. It seems racist, even if it isn't (and I am not so sure about that).
That from a guy who is known as Redneck#2 around my department.
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Not with someone I don't know. Obviously once you know someone, you define an individuated set of boundaries and taboos. But really, it's still the N-word at its core, and this white boy knows better.
Give me a better term for poser white guy who wants to look like he has street cred but he bought it at the mall. Is there a different option to go with?
I can tell you it doesn't seem the same as Nigger to me because I stopped myself from typing Nigger twice so that I wouldn't be offending someone, and I had no second thought about typing in Wigger. For me, culturally, one is a strong taboo and the other is just a slang word.
It all depends on the context though, I guess. I mean you can make Black, Negro, and African American all sound like an insult if you say it just right. I think the same can be said for the term wigger. While I view it as a white guy trying to co-opt a culture that he isn't a part of, some people might mean it as "that guy is trying to look like a nigger" so I guess you should probably err on the side of caution and not use it.
I think poser is good enough, Most people know what you mean. If you have to define what kind of poser (because I have no doubt there are some young, rich fit guys posing as blue collar, middle-age guys with pot bellies - or as I call 'em - YupPotatoes), then I guess you have to have a word or phrase. I am just not sure using the word in question is right.
There's just too much baggage - for me, at least
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Originally posted by Guru ZimGive me a better term for poser white guy who wants to look like he has street cred but he bought it at the mall. Is there a different option to go with?
Loser. That would seem to be the term.
As for the rest of it, I always understood wigger was simply "white nigger". And since I would not use that term out and about, I don't see why I would be any more prone to use the contraction.
I didn't even think that term was still used. I remember it was pretty popular back when Vanilla Ice and Snow were popular, but moreso for Snow, since he topped the charts with some reggae somgs.
That was well over ten years ago.
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Originally posted by OliverI didn't even think that term was still used. I remember it was pretty popular back when Vanilla Ice and Snow were popular, but moreso for Snow, since he topped the charts with some reggae somgs.
That was well over ten years ago.
And yet John Cena is the WWE Champion. With many a kid joining his chain gang.
Well I am a firm believer in politically incorectness, and I always had a tendency to fight with that crowd in highschool. So, I see nothing wrong with the term.
What is a wigger anyway?
A young white guy, who is personification of every (at least what I percieve as) NEGITIVE stereotype associated with blacks. The majority blacks don't speak "black" as well as some of these kids; oh and droops, should have went out of style about 12 years ago. What is more, most wiggers are the product of the white flight generation, so they have as much interaction with people of other races as I do with with sasquatch.
So really, who is the racist here? The person using the word, or the modern day minstral act?
Maybe you should just say "Whafrican-American" instead?
I take it as "if you WERE black, I'd consider you to be a 'nigger'" which is just totally offensive on every level. But then I'm from the northwest, where we tend to try to love all people, but not quite as much as we love trees and gray whales.
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Originally posted by Guru ZimGive me a better term for poser white guy who wants to look like he has street cred but he bought it at the mall. Is there a different option to go with?.
"Wanksta" is your word of the day. Not so much a white boy trying to be black but more of an overall term for anyone who thinks they're "gangsta" but have no street cred. Instant ego bruise to whomever gets tagged with it. Everyone knows what it means and it's not a direct derivative of a racial epithet.
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Originally posted by Guru ZimGive me a better term for poser white guy who wants to look like he has street cred but he bought it at the mall. Is there a different option to go with?
Blackberry? It's not even in Urban Dictionary so you probably will end up having to explain what it means anyway but I swear I read it in a book.
I have yet to hear anybody other than a white person use the term 'wigger'. Furthermore, terminology only gives these fools the thing they were looking for to begin with; identity.
I work with a guy who's been described in this thread already and on the website linked by the first post of the thread. He's a good guy, but extraordinarily touchy of being labelled 'white'. This comes from a strong presence of people that are prejudiced against white people for being phony and embracing 'the urban lifestyle', or in other words, upper-middle class kids embracing the life of poor kids. Poor kids have lives defined by the harshness of living in a tenement, having drug dealers around the block, and police officers treating you like a taint.
In other words, todays youth that seeks definition and identity through alternative culture are no different than yesterday's youth (ahem, hippies, flappers, etc.) However, hippie and flapper did not denote what race you were, whereas you have to meet certain racial requirements to be called a 'wigger'. Thus, by all accounts and purposes, and utilizing the principal that I can't insert any ethnicity into it's equasion, it is inherently racist.
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It's one of those terms that you shouldn't say just because it's not very well-known, and any explanation of it just sounds awkward.
Originally posted by AWArulzI wouldn't use it in business conversation of any level of casualness, so I wouldn't use it at all. It seems racist, even if it isn't (and I am not so sure about that).
That from a guy who is known as Redneck#2 around my department.
AWA, is this because you're only the second-biggest redneck in your department, or are you two interchangable, like Pitbull #1 and Pitbull #2?
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