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MoeGates
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Since: 6.1.02
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.02
What is the WWE hoping to accomplish with the "Rock & Wrestling" era push for Bill DeMott? The "Midcarder squashes jobbers" push hasn't gone anywhere for at least 10 years. This push was a staple of WCW (Van Hammer & Wrath come to mind of the top of my head), and always ended with "midcarder loses to upper-midcarder, push ends, midcarder is never heard from again." And I don't really see any other way for this one to go.

So, Bill DeMott squashes a couple of more cruiserweights the next couple weeks. What do they do with him at Royal Rumble? How is this guy going to be on TV in a month?

(edited by MoeGates on 27.12.02 1037)


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Since: 24.7.02

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#2 Posted on
Unless they give him the Diesel push at Rumble (doubtful, but who knows).
Title confused me, as I thought it might be trying to compare Angle entering his prime and Flair entering his prime.



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Since: 1.2.02
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.74
I don't know, but having a NOBODY pose all mean and tough as he's squashing a few little guys ....

That's, like, stupid times two.

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Since: 12.10.02
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#4 Posted on
Its not working because people either know he was a joke in WCW and a glorified jobber until the end. Or they just know him as one of those guys who came in from WCW but didn't do anything forever.

If they're counting on Tough Enough to get him over then they shouldn't have shown him getting all soft on Jonah last week.
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#5 Posted on

    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Unless they give him the Diesel push at Rumble (doubtful, but who knows).
    Title confused me, as I thought it might be trying to compare Angle entering his prime and Flair entering his prime.



I have Batista pegged for this.
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Since: 12.10.02
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#6 Posted on
Has the Diesel push even worked since Diesel?
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Since: 17.1.02
From: New F'n Jersey

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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.44

    Originally posted by fuelinjected
    Has the Diesel push even worked since Diesel?


Perhaps our definition of the Diesel push are different, but I thought Steve Austin's run through Royal Rumble 97 was pretty much a Diesel type push.



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Since: 2.1.02
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.87
Has the Diesel push even worked since Diesel?

Worked with Rikishi in 2000... Fans were just a TAD pissed upon his getting dumped.

Kane got it in 2001 - and it certainly worked for about 2 weeks, until they forgot what to do with him again.



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Since: 13.7.02
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#9 Posted on
These days, the Diesel push feels a little more forced, than anything. It's as if they're saying that by giving a wrestler the Diesel push in the Rumble is going to equate with a bigger push in the months following. We expect the same from King of the Ring, and that starts to feel forced, too.

What I'd LOVE to see, is a wrestler who shouldn't be receiving the Diesel push(big tough guy eliminating everyone... and I know that's not an EXACT definition of the Diesel push) get it, ala Matt Hardy.
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Since: 22.1.02
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I'd mark out big-time if Matt Hardy just starting eliminating guys right and left. Then he could brag about it in his little entrance video.

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Since: 20.6.02
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#11 Posted on

    Originally posted by vacheroi

      Originally posted by redsoxnation
      Unless they give him the Diesel push at Rumble (doubtful, but who knows).
      Title confused me, as I thought it might be trying to compare Angle entering his prime and Flair entering his prime.



    I have Batista pegged for this.



Batista's a good candidate, but I'm somehow thinking Vince gets STUBBORN~! and gives the Diesel push to A-Train in a last ditch attempt to get him over. As usual, it probably won't work.

Whether the Diesel push goes to Batista, Bill DeMott, or A-Train, the real losers...are the FANS!




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Since: 23.3.02
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Vince loves the big guys.

But if A-Train doesn't succeed this time do you think he'll be gone? (My guess is yes.)

They wouldn't get rid of DeMott for a good year or so, and I doubt the WWE will get rid of Show anytime soon.

I think Vince needs to realize that the era of big men is over. (Like Jericho said on Tough Enough II.)

The pushes deserve to go to guys like RVD, Matt Hardy, Edge, and Jericho.

(and a wish to bring back some form of secondary titles to the heavyweight titles :-) )




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They can fire him and anyone would be a upgrade. They need to build up the young guys. They can draw in more viewers with higher quality shows.
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