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#161 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.35
    Originally posted by StingArmy
    Wouldn't that mean Conan would be bumping Stewart and Colbert out of THEIR time slots? I know their shows aren't as well-established as The Tonight Show or Late Night, but wouldn't that be kind of hypocritical of Conan?


Regardless of where Conan goes, something will have to get bumped. Re-runs, existing shows, something. Unless of course someone has a TV Station with nothing but dead-air, something will need to be moved to either a different time or a different day. So essentially, unless Conan goes to the Oprah Channel or some new TV Network (or maybe just stay on the Internet), using your logic means he's going to be a hypocrite regardless.

Unrelated to above; Click Here (tv.gawker.com) for more clips of Friday's show.

(edited by El Nastio on 16.1.10 0126)


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#162 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.54
I guess that's fair, but I was thinking more in terms of him bumping someone else's late night talk show in favor of his own. Late night talk shows, once they're on the air, never get moved out of their time slot. If they do, they probably fail. For other shows, though, time slots are almost completely fungible. There's no rule that says LOST has to be on Wednesday nights at 9:00p (or whenever it's on, I better figure that out soon!). If those types of shows get moved, yeah it'll suck for a few weeks but soon people will forget what the old time slot used to be. Can't say the same thing about the various late night shows though. I mean, isn't that the essence of why Conan would rather leave than do the new time slot?

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#163 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.76
And my fears (appear to be) realized . . . all of Conan's recurring characters and even bits are dead: http://www.thrfeed.com/2010/01/nbc-to-keep-cocos-masturbating-bear.html

Not sure how Letterman got around the "Top 10" thing when he moved, and I'm sure Conan and his staff are game enough to come up with all new bits wherever they land, but it appears as if "In The Year 3000" "Twitter Tracker" and "Conando" (at least in their current form) are gone.

Wild stuff.



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#164 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.62
    Originally posted by DrewDewce

    Not sure how Letterman got around the "Top 10" thing when he moved


Basically just a name change. You'll see the graphics always call them "Late Show Top 10" as opposed to the "Top Ten List".

Stay tuned for The Self-Abusing Bear and "Tracking Twitter!"

(Who am I kidding, I'm on board)



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#165 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
According to the link, Conan wasn't interested in taking the characters with him anyway. I suspect that if he was, he could have negotiated the rights in exchange for some of that $30 million they gave him, but he decided he'd rather have the money. It's probably a smart decision, considering he doesn't have a deal in place for a new show yet, and doesn't know how well it'd do in any event. Really, I wonder if he has any interest in doing another show period, or if he's just going to take his money and walk away.
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#166 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.13
I had a thought last night while driving home and listening to the radio guys talking about this mess:

What's going to happen in a few years when Leno decides to retire again? I can only imagine the mess that will become in the press.
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#167 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.76
    Originally posted by Tribal Prophet
    I had a thought last night while driving home and listening to the radio guys talking about this mess:

    What's going to happen in a few years when Leno decides to retire again? I can only imagine the mess that will become in the press.


That's why I think this is so short sighted on NBC's part. Fallon wouldn't be ready to inheret that desk at any time in the near future (if ever!) so who would they get when Jay is finally done? The only people currently working with NBC that I could see fitting into that job are Tina Fey and/or Joel McHale and that's only with tons of practice meaning guest hosting shots, you know, how Jay learned to do the freaking job? As bad as things are now, unless NBC has regained some ratings power when Jay decides to leave they are screwed. Of course, I wish them nothing but bad luck in their future endeavours!



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#168 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.34
NBC is f'n screwed. This is great. Maybe conan can take some time off before the new show and put together a few simpsons scripts and save that shit(man that would be fucking awesome, lol)




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#169 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.43
I love this latest set of reports that Conan is dug in on the point of severance for his staff!

And NBC just keeps racking up the *brilliant* responses to the situation:
    Originally posted by LATimes.com
    "It was Conan's decision to leave NBC that resulted in nearly 200 of his staffers being out of work. We have already agreed to pay millions of dollars to compensate every one of them. This latest posturing is nothing more than a PR ploy," NBC said in a statement.
Click Here (latimes.com)

Uh, a) Nyah-nyah-nyah; b) Coco's not the one who needs the PR boost.

Are we totally sure that the TNA Collapse & the NBC Late Night Debacle are totally unrelated events? They just both seem to be so rife with moronic decisions!!
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#170 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.97
Let's say in a few more years the absolute "worst" happens and NBC is in grave danger of going kaput. What happens next? Would another network just swallow it up?
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#171 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.29
Sadly, I think Leno will do better numbers than Conan only because Leno won't have a lame "comedy" show (I tuned in a few times in the last few weeks, barely chuckled more than twice an episode) leading into the 11pm news.



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#172 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.28
    Originally posted by Broncolanche
    Let's say in a few more years the absolute "worst" happens and NBC is in grave danger of going kaput. What happens next? Would another network just swallow it up?


Won't happen, just because of the Comcast merger. More likely scenario is Comcast completely cleaning house, starting with Jeff Zucker.

(edited by It's False on 20.1.10 1314)



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#173 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.43
Another bit of cleverness, from an unnamed NBC spokesperson:
    Originally posted by wsj.com
    An NBC spokeswoman said via email the Conan-Leno situation isn't analogous to other corporate successions, saying it's "a unique decision any company in the talent business faces." NBC named a successor far in advance because it has "a responsibility to protect our franchises." She added: "If you sign a sought after quarterback out of college with the promise he will start in a couple of years for the veteran, but when he does can't win a game, you have to decide if that decision you made then worked … Studios sign deals for film and TV projects, often well into the future, all the time. Sometimes they don't work out because things change."
wsj,com (online.wsj.com)
Uhhh, a) this is what NBC considers "protecting the franchise"? ; b) pity you couldn't have gotten Conan to sign a "pay-for-play" or "contingent-on" contract.

Yikes.

Meanwhile, all this starts to happen in the wake of the deal for Comcast to buy NBC (msnbc.msn.com). (So, Broncolanche, the deal is already under way. "Kaput" is only a relative term at that level of corporate.) The paragraph in there that I love is this:
    Originally posted by msnbc.msn.com
    NBC Universal is profitable, with operating earnings of $1.7 billion on revenue of $11.2 billion in the first three quarters of 2009, despite weakness in the fourth-place NBC broadcast network and Universal Pictures, ranked sixth in North American box office gross this year by Rentrak Corp./Hollywood.com.
It may have been profitable on 12/3/09, but it certainly looks like they're heading in a totally different direction!

It'll be interesting to see what kind of "pay-for-play", results-oriented deal Jeff Zucker has with NBC-Universal as the Comcast deal unfolds ... Just sayin' ...

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(edited by emma on 20.1.10 1430)
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#174 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.97
    Originally posted by emma
    Another bit of cleverness, from an unnamed NBC spokesperson:
      Originally posted by wsj.com
      An NBC spokeswoman said via email the Conan-Leno situation isn't analogous to other corporate successions, saying it's "a unique decision any company in the talent business faces." NBC named a successor far in advance because it has "a responsibility to protect our franchises." She added: "If you sign a sought after quarterback out of college with the promise he will start in a couple of years for the veteran, but when he does can't win a game, you have to decide if that decision you made then worked … Studios sign deals for film and TV projects, often well into the future, all the time. Sometimes they don't work out because things change."
    wsj,com (online.wsj.com)
    Uhhh, a) this is what NBC considers "protecting the franchise"? ; b) pity you couldn't have gotten Conan to sign a "pay-for-play" or "contingent-on" contract.

    Yikes.

That's funny. I guess Green Bay should've caved into Brett Favre's demands and gave him his job back in 2008.
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#175 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.46
Considering Farve's other teams had better records and one win away from the Super Bowl, yeah maybe they should have. I seen other reports that Conan considers what the staff gets and Triumpth's rights which belong to someone else, deal breakers. So, believe who you want, but I take Conan side since NBC's credibility is shot. I love Leno's excuses on Monday Night saying he has no bad feelings towards Conan, why should he, he is getting what he wants.
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#176 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.97
    Originally posted by lotjx
    Considering Farve's other teams had better records and one win away from the Super Bowl, yeah maybe they should have.
I hate to derail here, but this year's Vikings are more than just Favre, and in spite of the Packers' 6-10 record in 2008 (with a lot of those losses being close ones), Rodgers played well in his first full year as a starter.

Anyways, to get back on topic:
    Originally posted by lotjx
    I love Leno's excuses on Monday Night saying he has no bad feelings towards Conan
And on the following night he delivers a thinly-veiled cheapshot at Conan, which Jay's audience THANKFULLY disapproved of.

Screw Leno.
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#177 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.35
Click Here (tv.gawker.com) to see Wednesday night's clips, including the return of an old friend.

I loved the corporate honcho petting the cat thing when it first was done a few weeks ago, and it's still hilarious.

Conan's last show is going to be EPIC. EPIC.



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#178 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.28

    O'Brien's first guest tonight was Adam Sandler, and the entire interview was an event not to be missed. Possibly the biggest moment of the segment, though, was Sandler's revelation that he and Chris Farley were actually fired by NBC in 1995 and didn't leave SNL willingly, as had always been assumed. Sandler recounted those days and explained it all with a quote from his manager: "NBC: Nothing But C***s."


I find it really hard to believe that Sandler could stay quiet about something like that for 15 years. I don't doubt that it's true, but why wait until now to come out with that revelation? I know Norm MacDonald was never shy about talking about his firing.




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#179 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.22
    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    Conan would be great on AMC or on the 101. That would be great.
    But, I think in the end, Fox gives him a show, and will let him sail on his own. He has to be better than Magic Johnson, and Chevy Chase, right?

    And, Kimmel..... good God he was all over Jay. That was just classic.
As long as Conan is available to Canadian viewers, I'm happy. I don't know the AMC or 101 channels (do we have those here?) so I'm hoping for FOX.

Though, I'm still miffed about MAD TV being cancelled....








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#180 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.54
So on Wednesday night's episode of The Tonight Show, Conan introduced a new comedy bit where they buy inordinately expensive props solely for the purpose of spending NBC's money. Wednesday night's bit consisted of a Bugatti Veyron, the most expensive car in the world, dressed up like a mouse. He also had the Rolling Stones' "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" playing in the background. Total price tag? An estimated $1.5 million.

Okay, it was funny. I laughed. But, I can't help but wonder what his contract says about pulling stunts like this. I'm specifically wondering about any sort of "good faith" clause in his contract that wouldn't allow him to spending NBC's money solely for the purpose of wasting it. I would think Conan has lawyers on staff who would warn him if he was going to do something that could hurt him legally or financially, but then again maybe those lawyers are actually employed by NBC.

In all likelihood Conan is in no danger of ANYTHING at this point, but a lawyer's mind always ponders things like this... =)

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