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Since: 16.10.02
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#121 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.44
Leno just had Jimmy Kimmel on who just smacked him down verbally one insult after another. Holy crap. This whole train wreck is awesome to behold.
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#122 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.92
    Originally posted by dwaters
    Leno just had Jimmy Kimmel on who just smacked him down verbally one insult after another. Holy crap. This whole train wreck is awesome to behold.


And you can see it here:

http://tv.gawker.com/5448615/jay-leno-turns-the-tables-bashes-conan-obrien-with-biting-monologue

We are through the looking glass, people.



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#123 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.35


This has to be the most EPIC interview I have ever had the pleasure of seeing! Seriously, made of awesome.

"Jay, my mother is watching this show. Actually, wait. your show is canceled because no one is watching your show so she isn't watching".

And that's TAME compared to some of the comments he made.

EDIT: What would complete this? Fallon + The Roots doing the SLOW JAM the recent Late Night events.

(edited by El Nastio on 15.1.10 0046)

You know, I really don't know what to put here. Close your eyes and thank of something funny!
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#124 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.48
Kimmel came out swinging, it was classic!!



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#125 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.35
I can't believe Leno let that air. I've never seen such a one-sided verbal ass-kicking.

EDIT: And unbelievably, available on the Jay Leno Show website.

(edited by It's False on 14.1.10 2302)



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#126 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.89
Kimmel was AWESOME tonight...just one after the other and Jay no comebacks at all!

But the porn movie names on Conan monologues was just insane, I can't believe NBC let those in on final edit. They are also available on Gawker right now.

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#127 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.12
If nothing else, Kimmel may just win over the fans that will be lost once Conan is ousted and may present yet another headache to Leno & NBC, making 1130 a vicious 3-way fight between them and Letterman. Jimmy's throwning down and throwning down hard. And I'm really starting to consider checking him out on a more regular bacis because of it.

I can't believe NBC allowed a rival network's host on their airtime and am even more shocked they allowed such a verbal asskicking to take place totally unedited. You would think if they really cared about Leno, they would try to protect him by censoring some of Kimmel's answers. It shows how stupid they look right now or they really don't care at this point about saving anyone's face in this mess.






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#128 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.47
NBC can edit stuff, but at the same time they are on a schedule and have to fill up an hour of time. They can't boot Kimmel off the show then grab random star on the sidewalk to do the show. Kimmel knows that, since he is doing the exact same gig, so he used it to his advantage. Conan is in the same boat too, even if they edited the monologue they have to make-up the time somewhere else and Conan could tell them to fuck off that is the final product then its up to NBC where to fill time. Hell, with the contract Conan has, NBC may not be allowed to edit the show unless Conan gives the ok, first. NBC also doesn't seem to care either since they are already the villain of the story, so Conan and others take a few shots, guess what NBC will be around after next week, Conan and others won't. I am sure that is the mindset of the company right now.
dwaters
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#129 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.44
If that Kimmel shoot happened in wrestling there would be nothing but "He's hardcore!" and "Holy Sh*t!" chants.

Though was it really a shoot?
Isn't the saying, "If you see it on TV, it's a work" ?

Since it is pre-taped, wouldn't Leno have to approve this before it aired?

So according to Kimmel, a Leno impression is part Sylvester the Cat, part Curly from the 3 Stooges, and part Scrappy-Doo.
Classic.
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#130 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.92
    Originally posted by lotjx
    NBC can edit stuff, but at the same time they are on a schedule and have to fill up an hour of time. They can't boot Kimmel off the show then grab random star on the sidewalk to do the show. Kimmel knows that, since he is doing the exact same gig, so he used it to his advantage. Conan is in the same boat too, even if they edited the monologue they have to make-up the time somewhere else and Conan could tell them to fuck off that is the final product then its up to NBC where to fill time. Hell, with the contract Conan has, NBC may not be allowed to edit the show unless Conan gives the ok, first. NBC also doesn't seem to care either since they are already the villain of the story, so Conan and others take a few shots, guess what NBC will be around after next week, Conan and others won't. I am sure that is the mindset of the company right now.


Somewhere else in this thread it was already referenced, but "Controversy Creates Cash."

Ratings are way up for the Tonight Show and probably for Leno too, so in the short-term, NBC's getting exactly what they want - more eyeballs. In the long term, that's another story... Who is exactly going to watch The Tonight Show With Jay Leno V.2 after all this? After he's been branded a failure and all the negativity and publicity? Hasn't his 'brand' been pretty damaged by it all?



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#131 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/15/business/media/15conan.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

Ebersol(regarding Conan and Dave's jokes about Jay): “chicken-hearted and gutless to blame a guy you couldn’t beat in the ratings.”

He added that “what this is really all about is an astounding failure by Conan.”
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#132 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.33
    Originally posted by Spiraling_Shape
    Who is exactly going to watch The Tonight Show With Jay Leno V.2 after all this? After he's been branded a failure and all the negativity and publicity? Hasn't his 'brand' been pretty damaged by it all?
Leno's audience doesn't tend to be the vocal internet savvy crowd. It's more like the passive zombie "Wheel of Fortune" crowd. I DO question whether or not NBC will be successful at training that crowd to tune back in at 11:35, but who knows.

As for me, I'm not a Leno fan and won't watch his Tonight Show any more than I did before (which was never). Conan's Tonight Show actually got me watching late night talk shows again for the first time in years, even if I was ultimately flipping between him and Dave waiting for Ferguson to come on.

I would love to see Leno bomb, just as I'd hoped that 17 years ago, but I don't expect him to.
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#133 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.69

Dick would know about astounding failures...Olympics Triplecast, the XFL, Gary Kroeger...



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Since: 8.6.02
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#134 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.42


Just what I was going to say! Honestly, the pro-Leno crowd all seems to be forgetting that Leno was given YEARS to develop into the classless douchebag he is. Letterman trounced him regularly, and it took a sleazy hooker scandal to turn the ship around.



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#135 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.96
    Originally posted by dwaters
    Though was it really a shoot?
    Isn't the saying, "If you see it on TV, it's a work" ?
Not everything has to be equated to pro wrestling

Kimmel meant every damn word he said. I don't know whether or not Leno has the final say on what bits air, but if he does, he's either too stupid to realize that his peers are legitimately angry with him or he does realize it and just doesn't give a shit.
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#136 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.54
    Originally posted by lotjx
    a lot of random guessing

followed by
    Originally posted by lotjx
    I am sure that is the mindset of the company right now.

I sure would like to see some sources from you. You seem to have a lot of insight into what NBC and Jay Leno are each doing or thinking behind the scenes.
    Originally posted by Broncolanche
    Kimmel meant every damn word he said. I don't know whether or not Leno has the final say on what bits air, but if he does, he's either too stupid to realize that his peers are legitimately angry with him or he does realize it and just doesn't give a shit.

He might realize and not care, but I don't think you can accuse him of not even realizing it. I believe he even made a joke about it in last night's monologue (something about blaming Leno for some other random problem in the news).

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#137 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.48
Some of Leno's questions to Kimmel were kinda obvious and I'm guessing staged specifically for Jimmy to give the answers he wanted. The lap dance one and the hosting job one in particular.

It was funny, certainly, but... I don;t know, maybe I'm just jaded.



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#138 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.47
God Lord, its called speculating. We don't need a damn source for everything we say on the internet. Its the fucking internet for Christ Sake, its 90% bullshit, 10% porn or vice versa. We are on internet message based mostly on Wrestling, this isn't 60 Minutes. What we think or say here matters so little in the grand scheme of things is silly. Most of us came here just to discuss or try to figure out the situation, not to be interrogated every other post. We are talking about a TV situation that none of us have control over. People on this site need to lighten the fuck up.
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#139 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.39
    Originally posted by Cerebus
    Some of Leno's questions to Kimmel were kinda obvious and I'm guessing staged specifically for Jimmy to give the answers he wanted. The lap dance one and the hosting job one in particular.

    It was funny, certainly, but... I don;t know, maybe I'm just jaded.


I don't think Leno was expecting to get hammered on every question that's why the last couple were set up that way. Kimmel twisted every question around so wonderfully that the last two were just softballs.

Conan's monologues and the porn bit were just fantastic. Angry vintage Conan, oh how I missed thee.
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#140 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.35
And it's over. Buyout done, no non-compete clause.

Conan's Exit Confirmed - The Daily Beast


    The NBC-Leno-Conan war is close to ending, according to a knowledgeable source. According to the outlines of a settlement, Conan O'Brien will leave NBC and the network will make an as-yet unspecified payment. The comedian will be free to appear elsewhere on television well before his contract expires, despite earlier threats from NBC that it would prevent him from working anywhere else.

    There is still opportunity for the negotiation to fall apart, but clearly, at this point it is in NBC's interest to put an end to this dismal episode.


The door's open for Conan to appear on Letterman after the Olympics, but after the way Kimmel publicly took the bull by the horns and murdered Leno to his face, I think Conan owes Jimmy Kimmel Live at least one appearance.




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