The W
Views: 100250091
Main | FAQ | Search: Y! / G | Calendar | Color chart | Log in for more!
30.10.14 1902
The W - Movies & TV - Is Conan going to be replaced ALREADY?
This thread has 97 referrals leading to it
Register and log in to post!
Thread rated: 5.19
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 Next
(2163 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
User
Post (273 total)
StingArmy
Andouille








Since: 3.5.03
From: Georgia bred, you can tell by my Hawk jersey

Since last post: 25 days
Last activity: 3 days
#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.53
According to PopEater.com, the answer is maybe, and the rumored replacement is Jerry Seinfeld. Apparently ratings for the Tonight Show have fallen something like 50% and NBC execs are none too happy about it.

The thing is, Leno experienced something similar when he replaced Carson several years ago. It might just be a matter of giving Conan time to get things going. The difference here, of course, is that Conan was already on late night television five times a week for several years before jumping to the Tonight Show, unlike Leno who came to the Tonight Show as a virtual late night rookie.

Another theory I've seen floated: ratings for The Jay Leno Show are absolutely awful, and people who tune out at 10:00p aren't coming back. Not for Conan, not for Fallon, not even for their local NBC affiliate's 11 o'clock news. So maybe it has nothing to do with Conan at all.

Whatever the cause, I think it'd be silly to replace Conan so soon. Jerry Seinfeld is probably the only comedian in the world who could pull off a miraculous turn-around, but it seems like an unnecessary measure at this point.

- StingArmy

(edited by StingArmy on 19.12.09 0558)
Promote this thread!
KJames199
Scrapple
Moderator








Since: 10.12.01
From: #yqr

Since last post: 5 hours
Last activity: 2 hours
#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.06
    Originally posted by StingArmy
    ...unlike Leno who came to the Tonight Show as virtual a late night rookie.
Maybe I'm remembering things wrong, but didn't Leno serve as Carson's guest host about a million times before officially taking over?



JK: LJ, FB, T
StingArmy
Andouille








Since: 3.5.03
From: Georgia bred, you can tell by my Hawk jersey

Since last post: 25 days
Last activity: 3 days
#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.53
    Originally posted by KJames199
      Originally posted by StingArmy
      ...unlike Leno who came to the Tonight Show as virtual a late night rookie.
    Maybe I'm remembering things wrong, but didn't Leno serve as Carson's guest host about a million times before officially taking over?

Yes, which is why I said "virtual" rather than "complete." He had guest hosted many times, but so did other famous comedians. Still, Leno guest hosting a dozen times or so can't compare to the experience Conan got hosting his own show for 16 years.

- StingArmy
OlFuzzyBastard
Knackwurst








Since: 28.4.02
From: Pittsburgh, PA

Since last post: 3 days
Last activity: 3 days
AIM:  
#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.82
He guest hosted a lot more than a dozen times - he was the permanent guest host from 1987 on and Carson was regularly taking at least one day a week off (Tuesdays, if I remember correctly - not to mention the occasional week off.). Wikipedia doesn't have the exact numbers, but it's safe to assume he guest hosted several hundred times.
Kevintripod
Boudin blanc








Since: 11.5.03
From: Mount Pleasant, Pa.

Since last post: 11 hours
Last activity: 3 hours
AIM:  
#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.73
Conan O’Brien has had practice going through this because NBC tried to replace him with Greg Kinnear when he first took over ‘Late Night’.



The best part of waking up is not Folgers in your cup, but knowing that Chuck Norris didn't kill you in your sleep.
thecubsfan
Scrapple
Moderator








Since: 10.12.01
From: Aurora, IL

Since last post: 4 hours
Last activity: 10 min.
#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
Why would Seinfeld want that job? He's set for life - he's probably set for about 90 lives - and that's a high pressure role doing a job he hasn't ever done. This doesn't sound likely.



thecubsfan.com - luchablog
ekedolphin
Scrapple








Since: 12.1.02
From: Indianapolis, IN; now residing in Suffolk, VA

Since last post: 134 days
Last activity: 7 days
#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.42
I think it'd be a mistake to replace Conan, and that maybe they ought to reconsider the way they've got their schedule set up. I've not seen a single episode of The Jay Leno Show and have no intention of doing so; I didn't watch him on The Tonight Show because I just don't like him. I like Conan, though, and have been a fan for more than ten years.



"You're about as much fun as a divorce-- which is not a bad idea."
"I want custody of me."

--Michael Knight and KITT, Knight Rider

Fan of the Indianapolis Colts (Super Bowl XLI Champions), Indiana Pacers and Washington Nationals

Certified RFMC Member-- Ask To See My Credentials!

Co-Winner of Time's Person of the Year Award, 2006

Matt Tracker
Scrapple








Since: 8.5.03
From: North Carolina

Since last post: 3 hours
Last activity: 3 hours
#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.70
Wasn't Leno constantly trounced by the hipper Letterman until Leno got the Hugh Grant interview? I remember that sparking his ascension.

I think Conan could regain his footing if he wasn't made bland by the Tonight franchise. He had characters retired when he moved to 11:30. Of course he's gonna lose numbers.

Also, Hulu means you can catch the repeat anytime. Seems like series finales and sports events are the only appointment viewings anymore.



"To be the man, you gotta beat demands." -- The Lovely Mrs. Tracker
CRZ
Big Brother
Administrator








Since: 9.12.01
From: ミネアポリス

Since last post: 3 hours
Last activity: 2 hours
AIM:  
ICQ:  
Y!:
#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.85
Not to cut off all this speculation and boy, I hate to argue the authoritativeness of an AOL blog, but you (and whoever was responsible for the headline of the blog entry) MAY be blowing out of proportion something that doesn't look like anything more than idle chatter. I don't even get a "maybe" out of what I read. There's NO indication Conan's actually going to be replaced. This looks more like a slow news day and an attempt to get some clicks with a headline.



Oliver
Scrapple








Since: 20.6.02
From: #YEG

Since last post: 8 hours
Last activity: 8 hours
AIM:  
ICQ:  
Y!:
#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.38
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
    Wasn't Leno constantly trounced by the hipper Letterman until Leno got the Hugh Grant interview? I remember that sparking his ascension.
Let history repeat itself: get Tiger Woods on. The audience will follow.








SAMURAI SENTAI SHINKENGER!
SchippeWreck
Banger








Since: 26.3.03
From: Glendale, CA

Since last post: 6 hours
Last activity: 41 min.
#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.69
Bump.

Man, I hope TMZ is wrong:

http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/07/jay-leno-nbc-conan-obrien-tonight-show/

If Conan does end up the "odd man out", I hope he goes to a network that treats him better and/or gives him a real shot to break out.



"It's magic! We don't need to explain it!"
It's False
Scrapple








Since: 20.6.02
From: I am the Tag Team Champions!

Since last post: 2 days
Last activity: 3 hours
#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.32
I've never seen anything like this, where NBC have let themselves get taken hostage by Leno. He must be the single most powerful man in the network if can completely tank ratings for every one of NBC's primetime shows and STILL wind up with his old timeslot.

Wonder if whoever signed Leno to that contract is getting ridden out of the network on a rail?




There can be only ONE!
El Nastio
Andouille








Since: 14.1.02
From: Ottawa Ontario, by way of Walkerton

Since last post: 5 days
Last activity: 6 hours
ICQ:  
#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.36


And I hope he beats NBC/Leno in the ratings. This is a terrible situation, and the fact that Leno's poor ratings is resulting him.....getting his old spot back? Terrible. Just terrible.

And you're right False, he (Leno) must contain some sort of power, motr yhan we could know obviously.



You know, I really don't know what to put here. Close your eyes and thank of something funny!
DrDirt
Banger








Since: 8.10.03
From: flyover country

Since last post: 7 days
Last activity: 4 hours
#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.47
I like Conan alot but his Tonight stint, eh. He needs to be in a situation where he can be Conan.

Leno is acting like an ass.



Perception is reality
Mr. Boffo
Scrapple








Since: 24.3.02
From: Oshkosh, WI

Since last post: 459 days
Last activity: 419 days
#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.39
Not only is this a poor way to treat Conan, it's a poor way to treat all the people who moved from New York to California to continue to be a part of the show. 6 months and then you maybe don't have a job? Ridiculous.
Texas Kelly
Lap cheong








Since: 3.1.02
From: FOREST HILLS CONTROLS THE UNIVERSE

Since last post: 56 days
Last activity: 3 days
ICQ:  
#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
Ladies and gentlemen, the following public service message is brought to you by your friends from D-Generation X, who would like to remind each and every one of you that if you're not down with that, we've got two words for you...

There's a number of reasons why this rumor better not be true, and it's got nothing to do with any affinity I might have for any of the late night show hosts (the only one I watch with any regularity is Colbert).

- The numbers logic just doesn't pan out to me. NBC is assuming that Leno will draw similar ratings to what he was getting last year once he gets back to his old spot, and I very much doubt that happens. Those who took the opportunity during the transition to discover Letterman will likely stick with him, and...

- There will be an inevitable backlash against Leno by Conan fans, taking a sizable chunk out of Leno's would-be audience (and in the desirable 18-40 demo to boot). They'll go watch Kimmel or Colbert and Letterman's lead in the timeslot will only grow (because there's nothing to show that Leno would to take viewers back from Letterman). NBC could have gotten away with something like this two decades ago, but in the Twitter era, it's a fallacy.

- Forgetting all that for a second, though: If they move Leno back, what do they have to put on at 10:00? Law & Order reruns aren't going to cut it and they really don't have anything in the pipeline. That's only going to cost them more ad dollars and ratings, and that's certainly something they can't afford to do for May sweeps (they're lucky the Olympics gives them a free pass for February).

- Lastly, there's the irreparable damage this would do to the Tonight Show brand. NBC would essentially be saying that one guy (who's nearing 60, I might add) is more important than the half-century of history they've put into the program as an entity. What happens the next time they try to replace Leno with somebody? Lord knows it's going to be much harder for them to rebuild trust with the viewership at that time if they go this route.

We'll see how this plays out, but I can't see anything except bad things happening for NBC if they make this move.



e-mail me at texas (dot) kelly (at) gmailread a bunch of incoherent nonsense
now 52% more incoherent!
smark/net attack Advisory System is Elevatedsmark/net attack Advisory System Status is: Elevated
(Holds; June 18, 2006)
While the switch from Cena to RVD should alleviate some complaints, the inevitability of the belt's return to Cena (note where Summerslam is this year) and the poor initial showing by the new ECW are enough to keep the indicator where it is for now. The pieces are in place, though, especially on RAW, for improvements to be made to the IWC's psyche in the near future.
Broncolanche
Sujuk








Since: 2.6.03
From: Littleton, CO

Since last post: 1171 days
Last activity: 423 days
#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.97
This tidbit comes from another forum I read:


    Take this for what it's worth, and it might not be much, but a good friend of mine knows someone on the tonight show, and they posted on FB that "there is shit going down, but the Tonight Show will be unaffected. Nikki Finke who covers film and TV, has been covering the story, and her info is just that Leno's show is being cancelled."



(edited by Broncolanche on 7.1.10 1717)
lotjx
Scrapple








Since: 5.9.08

Since last post: 8 hours
Last activity: 4 hours
#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.51
If this is true, it makes Leno one of the sleaziest men in Hollywood and that is say something. He pulled almost the same trick on Letterman to get the Tonight show. I hope its a false rumor since Conan has barely gotten out of the gate with his run. It also shows how stupid NBC is. They give a giant send off for Leno on the Tonight Show, then give him primetime TV on the weeknights and when it goes south they give him back his slot out of fear he will go to another network. The ratings should give you an indication that what it would be like if he was the competition and nothing really to fear. I will say this as a Heroes fan, its great news since they now have five hours of primetime TV to fill.

(edited by lotjx on 7.1.10 1812)
Texas Kelly
Lap cheong








Since: 3.1.02
From: FOREST HILLS CONTROLS THE UNIVERSE

Since last post: 56 days
Last activity: 3 days
ICQ:  
#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
Ladies and gentlemen, the following public service message is brought to you by your friends from D-Generation X, who would like to remind each and every one of you that if you're not down with that, we've got two words for you...

    Originally posted by Broncolanche
    Take this for what it's worth, and it might not be much, but a good friend of mine knows someone on the tonight show, and they posted on FB that "there is shit going down, but the Tonight Show will be unaffected. Nikki Finke who covers film and TV, has been covering the story, and her info is just that Leno's show is being cancelled."

That's a far more likely result than what TMZ is suggesting, IMO.



e-mail me at texas (dot) kelly (at) gmailread a bunch of incoherent nonsense
now 52% more incoherent!
smark/net attack Advisory System is Elevatedsmark/net attack Advisory System Status is: Elevated
(Holds; June 18, 2006)
While the switch from Cena to RVD should alleviate some complaints, the inevitability of the belt's return to Cena (note where Summerslam is this year) and the poor initial showing by the new ECW are enough to keep the indicator where it is for now. The pieces are in place, though, especially on RAW, for improvements to be made to the IWC's psyche in the near future.
SchippeWreck
Banger








Since: 26.3.03
From: Glendale, CA

Since last post: 6 hours
Last activity: 41 min.
#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.69
    Originally posted by Texas Kelly
      Originally posted by Broncolanche
      Take this for what it's worth, and it might not be much, but a good friend of mine knows someone on the tonight show, and they posted on FB that "there is shit going down, but the Tonight Show will be unaffected. Nikki Finke who covers film and TV, has been covering the story, and her info is just that Leno's show is being cancelled."

    That's a far more likely result than what TMZ is suggesting, IMO.

That rumor actually dropped first today, followed by the TMZ report. And as much as I dislike them, TMZ's accuracy rate has been better than Finke's in the past.



"It's magic! We don't need to explain it!"
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 Next
Thread rated: 5.19
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 Next
Thread ahead: "Til Death" renewed yet again?
Next thread: Robin Hood
Previous thread: RIP Corey Haim
(2163 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
I forgot how much I missed John Glover until his return. It should be the parallel Lionel Luthor (we saw him running towards Clark as the mirrorbox was activated).
- The Goon, Smallville 10x10 - "Luthor" (2010)
Related threads: William Shatner vs. Sarah Palin on "Conan" - Conando meets the WWE - Shatner does Palin - More...
The W - Movies & TV - Is Conan going to be replaced ALREADY?Register and log in to post!

The W™ message board

ZimBoard
©2001-2014 Brothers Zim

This old hunk of junk rendered your page in 0.225 seconds.