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Since: 2.1.02
From: The Las Vegas of Canada

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Some quotes from a commentary on WorldNetDaily about our presence in Iraq. "We are told the United States cannot walk away from Iraq now, or it would descend into chaos. That may be true. But if chaos is one alternative, another is a no-win war such as Israel is today fighting against the Palestinians. And the chances of that are daily rising."

"President Bush had best begin devising an exit strategy for U.S. troops, before our enemies succeed with theirs."

"If that sergeant does not know what he is doing there, it is because his commander in chief has left him, and us, in the dark. And if the president does not begin soon to lay out the case for why we must keep 150,000 men in Iraq, the American people will begin to demand they be brought home."

Now hold up, I can feel some of the folks here getting ready to fire up the "L word" and proclaim this person a fuzzy-headed liberal pacifist. So instead let me point to the web address of this article by Pat Buchanan (

My question is what happens for the Bush folks if this sort of criticism begins to pop up more and more in talk radio or other generally right wing circles? They've done a pretty good job of marginalizing dissent from the left on the war, but if it starts to be a two-pronged attack on their policies, I wonder what they will have to spin this criticism as. I don't think this will be a major problem in coming days or weeks, but what about 6-9 months from now?

and maybe I should open up my sensitive side/but really, the sensitive side sucks./I've been there./You can only imagine the kinds of sweaters they make you wear.
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You have to remember that Buchanan is an isolationist through and through, and has never been a fan of the Bush family (Democrats should never forget to stop thanking Pat for giving Bush 41 the initial speed bump in '92). At this point, maybe Pat is just attempting to solidify his Palm Beach supporters before making another run at the Presidency.

Where have you gone Gene Rayburn, a nation turns it lonely eyes to you.

Since: 11.7.02
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    Originally posted by spf2119
    My question is what happens for the Bush folks if this sort of criticism begins to pop up more and more in talk radio or other generally right wing circles?

It won't. As far as Republicans goes, Conservatives who have opposed the war from the get-go makes up on only a small percentage of the party. The isolation wing, as RSN has dutifully pointed out. Bush is going to walk to the nomination and unless another Ross Perot-type candidate comes out of the woodwork, I don't think they will abandon Bush. Most of them realize that the alternative to Bush is a Democrat, which is even worse in their eyes.

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I don't think most liberals would want Pat Buchanan on their side anyway.

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Thats a pretty weak excuse, that frankly, I am tired of hearing. They signed up for the benefits. Well, they signed up in the ARMED FORCES. They KNOW that thier purpose is to go to war to protect the nations interests and safety.
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