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The 5th Horseman
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Since: 23.10.02
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#1 Posted on
I got this from the "Between The Ropes" radio show. They said this weeks Raw was the lowest it's been in several years. The last time the ratings were this low, the main event was.......HHH vs. Shawn Michaels. That was the "match" for the European Championship when Shawn just layed down while HHH ran the ropes forever before dropping the finishing elbow.


I realize that there are some folks around here that are kind of touchy when anyone says anything that can be perceived as being even remotely negative about HHH so, don't get all protective and accuse me of being a "HHHater". I know that all the blame can't go to the main event participants. I just thought that was an interesting, if not coincidental, fact.
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#2 Posted on
Maybe to commemorate the occasion HHH returns the job this weekend?



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08

    Originally posted by krakken2000
    Maybe to commemorate the occasion HHH returns the job this weekend?


HAHAHA!! Good one...




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Ringmistress
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#4 Posted on
Actually, I'm not putting too much thought into the whole ratings thing (planning a trip to Atlantic City on New Years' Eve), but I'd prefer if HHH loses Sunday so we could turn our hating towards Brock Lesnar.

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redsoxnation
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#5 Posted on
Goes to show that Shawn Michaels is proving yet again that no one can kill a rating like HBK. Remember, they didn't pass Nitro in '98 until the week after Mania, when it was clear HBK was gone.



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The 5th Horseman
Kolbasz








Since: 23.10.02
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#6 Posted on

    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Goes to show that Shawn Michaels is proving yet again that no one can kill a rating like HBK. Remember, they didn't pass Nitro in '98 until the week after Mania, when it was clear HBK was gone.


Which coincided with the explosion of Stone Cold Steve Austin as a mainstream star. That's probably got more to do with the climb in ratings after he beat Michaels at WrestleMania. Also, losing Stone Cold (and the Rock being gone for extended periods of time) recently probably has a lot to do with the dropping ratings now.
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#7 Posted on

    Originally posted by The 5th Horseman

      Originally posted by redsoxnation
      Goes to show that Shawn Michaels is proving yet again that no one can kill a rating like HBK. Remember, they didn't pass Nitro in '98 until the week after Mania, when it was clear HBK was gone.


    Which coincided with the explosion of Stone Cold Steve Austin as a mainstream star. That's probably got more to do with the climb in ratings after he beat Michaels at WrestleMania. Also, losing Stone Cold (and the Rock being gone for extended periods of time) recently probably has a lot to do with the dropping ratings now.



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Since: 21.9.02
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#8 Posted on

    Originally posted by Ringmistress
    Actually, I'm not putting too much thought into the whole ratings thing (planning a trip to Atlantic City on New Years' Eve), but I'd prefer if HHH loses Sunday so we could turn our hating towards Brock Lesnar.

    Ringmistress


And why do we hate Lesnar? Or why are we apparently supposed to?



InVerse
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#9 Posted on
Interestingly enough (and of course unmentioned) is the fact that HHH was involved in the main event of the highest rated Raw of all time as well, though I'm sure we can chalk that up to Shane being his partner.
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#10 Posted on

    Originally posted by InVerse
    Interestingly enough (and of course unmentioned) is the fact that HHH was involved in the main event of the highest rated Raw of all time as well, though I'm sure we can chalk that up to Shane being his partner.


I bet if more of us HHH fans (or at least non-HHHaters) put as much effort into DEFENDING Hunter as much as the HHHaters do into DESTROYING him, we could find infinite little tidbits like this to support him.

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#11 Posted on
If you're not a Hunter defender or a hater, what are you? Sometimes, I find him entertaining--sometimes, I don't. he's not one of my favorites but I don't hate him either. I don't hate HHH and I like Scott Keith. Hmm, I sometimes wonder if I belong here...



The 5th Horseman
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Since: 23.10.02
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#12 Posted on
    Originally posted by DarrylTheHitman
    If you're not a Hunter defender or a hater, what are you? Sometimes, I find him entertaining--sometimes, I don't. he's not one of my favorites but I don't hate him either.


IMPOSSIBLE!!! You can't just be objective about HHH around here. If you say ANYTHING remotely negative about HHH, you are obviously a "HHHater" that looks for every little detail to complain about. HHH is above any criticism. NOBOBY can look at HHH's work objectively and see anything that's not perfect. He does no wrong, unless you're a "HHHater".

Nevermind that I would have easily named HHH as my favorite wrestler before he left with his quad injury. I am now apparently a "HHHater" because I don't like his current productivity. I should ignore how much the quality of his matches and promos have decreased recently because he was great a couple of years ago.



    Originally posted by InVerse
    Interestingly enough (and of course unmentioned) is the fact that HHH was involved in the main event of the highest rated Raw of all time as well, though I'm sure we can chalk that up to Shane being his partner.


The reason that wasn't mentioned is that it didn't fit into the irony of the fact that the previous low rated show featured the same 2 guys as the current low rated show is focused on. It really wasn't meant as an attack on HHH or Shawn Michaels, just an ironic observation. I even made sure to note in my original post in this thread that the blame can't be placed completely on the main event participants. I also added that the departure of Steve Austin and the lengthy absences of the Rock is a huge contributor to the drop in ratings. The retirement of Mick Foley is a factor also.

(edited by The 5th Horseman on 16.11.02 0618)
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