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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.28
I cannot wait for a recap to come out, so here is my half assed attempt until the real one hits. Mostly, I just want to cleanse my soul of what I just watched.

The wrestling I did see was fine, it felt rushed and seemed like it was mostly in the way of what TNA wanted to do, so there's that.

I flipped in and out of this show, so I'm sure I missed some quality but two segments I did see ...

Brooke Hogan going Celebrity Apprentice with the Knockouts was such a bad segment. Not only was the acting lousy, but nobody really listened to what the other person was saying. It was like they were reading off of four different scripts and just throwing out random generic lines while being 'real'.

... but boy oh boy did that segment look great compared to what they closed the show with. The big AJ/Dixie affair storyline had the biggest What the Fuck am I watching moment since Triple H had simulated sex for ten minutes in a Kane mask with a mannequin/corpse named Katie Vick in a funeral home coffin.

Who in their right mind thought mixing Intervention with wrestling was a good idea. Right as AJ and Dixie were about to reveal or not reveal their secret, some pregnant trailer trash comes out, Claire Lynch, and cuts one of the worst promos I have ever heard. It all started with drinking, and then she was on the pills and even woke up next to strangers. I actually flipped away for a second because somebody came into the room and I didn't want to try and explain what I was watching.

Deplorable television, and not because it might have been offensive, but because of how dumb I felt watching it. TNA needs to get a fucking clue. I hope they enjoyed their mini run of not so sucky television, because that hit the wall tonight.







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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.08
Wow that reveal was so bad, I mean so bad. I dunno why they didn't just have the masked guy lay out Styles and Dixie like they did last week with sting or just have the reveal be that Styles and Dixie were planning Serg a surprise party and Daniels doctored the photos instead of having that awful actress try and act or whatever she was trying to do. Styles destroying Daniels and Kaz sure make them look weak going into the tag title match next week. I am glad to see Danieles getting feutured, but it sucks that he jobs so much and that he jobbed to clown shoes like Anderson in three minutes. I hate the ten minute time limit in the BFG series. All of the matches were seriously rushed and really they didn't have to have six BFG series matches all in one week. I believe all of the matches only got three or four minutes. The last few weeks all of the matches got plenty of time not this week. Tessmacher Vs Mickie was better than expected and I'm looking forward to Mickie snapping and turning heel. RVd need to turn heel as he is so damn stale and boring. Hopefully tonights show wasn't a sign of things to come because Impact has been excellent lately. The Aries-Hogan-Roode opening was excellent, but the show went downhill after that. I am really looking forward to Aries Vs Roode at the next PPV. I didn't miss Abyss at all and wish he'd stay as Joe Park only.Last weeks show was so great it sucks that they went backwards like this.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.94
I thought D-Von was supposed to defend the TV Title on every show?

Bitch and moan about the terrible acting and what not, but the way I see it, if it puts a major focus on AL, Daniels, and Kaz... it's okay in my book. It keeps them busy with something on camera and not left without a job.

Austin Ares is awesome. That Option C was pretty good.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.25
I like the X-Division Title idea of vacating it for a title shot. Don't know if I like it for the X-Division title, specifically, but it's a unique concept and wrestling needs more new ideas like this.

I wish WWE would do something similar with the IC and/or US titles. I think MITB is a really tired idea, but if combined with a secondary title, it would make a lot of sense and the champion doesn't always have to vacate. They could also act as a gatekeeper for future contenders, so the title has some versatility.



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Deputy Marshall
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#5 Posted on
    Originally posted by SKLOKAZOID
    I like the X-Division Title idea of vacating it for a title shot. Don't know if I like it for the X-Division title, specifically, but it's a unique concept and wrestling needs more new ideas like this.

    I wish WWE would do something similar with the IC and/or US titles. I think MITB is a really tired idea, but if combined with a secondary title, it would make a lot of sense and the champion doesn't always have to vacate. They could also act as a gatekeeper for future contenders, so the title has some versatility.
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My only issue with it is that it doesn't make sense to have a challenger vacate his current title. If he wins, yes. But why does he need to do it just to challenge for a belt? It seems unnecessary and unfair, like something a heel authority figure would do. Especially since, if memory serves, pro wrestling precedent has always been that a guy can hold onto his title until he wins another one, but not have to drop it until that time (though I could be wrong on that/remembering incorrectly).

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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.88
It should make for a nice bit of focus on the X-division one year from now (assuming they still remember) as it means that people will want to be the champ, just so they can get a shot at the HW championship.

That ending..that's just horrible.
Yes, AJ/Kaz/Daniels are in a top tier feud..but if it's not treated as such by bad acting and storytelling then it won't help.
Unless of course they realized how bad this was, this was their silly blowoff and now AJ will get his revenge on the heels in a series of good matches.





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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.12
Liked Option C as well. The rest of the show ... not so much.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.24
I have no idea who that woman was and I really didn't care. I thought it was maybe AJ's wife or something. The easiest out for this entire storyline was at the PPV where AJ and Kurt win the belts and its revealed that AJ/Dixie was a giant hoax. No, they went around the trailer park trash world and came up with this. One of the top five worst ends to a storyline ever (or this week).

I also hated the KO Apperantice just for the sheer fact that no one had the balls to say "Fuck you, Brooke, you know nothing about wrestling" Then slapped the bitch. I did like ODB's pseud reference to Hogan's sex tape as she left. Tessmacher is just ok in the ring. I did like the girl who tried out. The cancer thing can get the fans behind you and she at least has some wrestling experience. She was also pretty good at selling.

Up until the end and the KO segments, I thought it was one of their better shows. They seem to be getting behind Aries, Joe/Storm is always a win and there seem to be more being of an effort to get more of to get a lot of people out there. By man, that end was God Awful.

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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.75
Why didn't I just turn it off at 9:50?? It would have been a decent enough show, that I would forget within a day or so, but now I have that bad taste in my mouth. Hopefully they scrap it and just focus on the tag titles next week.




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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.40
I would think that a major portion of the show should be dedicated to why three masked individuals were able to jump into the ring and beat up one of your top stars for a good three minutes, without any interference from TNA security instead of just a brief mention or two by Hogan and then forgetting about it the rest of the night.

Then again, TNALogiclol.

The problem with TNA is that there's no entertainment involved in the shows; it's just angry wrestlers talking and fighting. If I wanted to see that, I'd watch boxing or MMA.

At least Raw and Smackdown attempts to entertain the viewing audience and branches out toward the mainstream - which is why TNA will be forever doomed to sub 1.0 ratings on SpikeTV.

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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.08
I'd argue pretty stropngly that Impact has been better than Raw the past few months. Raw and even Smackdown to a lesser extent seems to be all about amusing and tickling the fancy of Vince and to hell with you if you aren't entertained.
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.40
    Originally posted by graves9
    I'd argue pretty stropngly that Impact has been better than Raw the past few months. Raw and even Smackdown to a lesser extent seems to be all about amusing and tickling the fancy of Vince and to hell with you if you aren't entertained.


Better is subjective, though.

Is it more talked about socially among casual viewers?
Has it seen a bump, ratings wise?
Are those outside the core wrestling fan base talking about it?

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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.08
    Originally posted by wannaberockstar
      Originally posted by graves9
      I'd argue pretty stropngly that Impact has been better than Raw the past few months. Raw and even Smackdown to a lesser extent seems to be all about amusing and tickling the fancy of Vince and to hell with you if you aren't entertained.


    Better is subjective, though.

    Is it more talked about socially among casual viewers?
    Has it seen a bump, ratings wise?
    Are those outside the core wrestling fan base talking about it?

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Yes it is subjective. They haven't gotten a ratings bump yet because they are going against a ratings juggarnaut like the Heat the past month.I do think they'll get a bit of a bump next week because they are no longer going up against the red hot NBA. I will say the hardcores have been praising the show the past few months. It will take a while for them to climb out of the ratings hole Russo put them in.
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.69
    Originally posted by graves9
    I will say the hardcores have been praising the show the past few months.


I've heard a good reviews here and there, and the recent PPV was well-received, but saying that the show has been praised for a few months is going way too far. Every time TNA puts on a good match or two there are still just as many groan-out-loud segments. The best bit from the recent PPV (tag titles match) has been reduced to the stereotypical garbage TNA angle in only a few weeks.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.36
    Originally posted by samoflange
      Originally posted by graves9
      I will say the hardcores have been praising the show the past few months.


    I've heard a good reviews here and there, and the recent PPV was well-received, but saying that the show has been praised for a few months is going way too far. Every time TNA puts on a good match or two there are still just as many groan-out-loud segments. The best bit from the recent PPV (tag titles match) has been reduced to the stereotypical garbage TNA angle in only a few weeks.
Meltzer, Scott Keith and Bryan Alvarez have been praising the show for months now, and the hardcores have started to slowly stopped tearing the company and say ''hey it's not bad anymore'' I think that's what graves may mean. The Daniels-Styles-Dixie angle was okay, it was the reveal that blew chunks.
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.36
On its surface, starting the 1st week of the round robin round of the BFG Series with all 12 participants facing each other in 6 singles matches is a fine idea. Unfortunately, they did that on an Open Fight Night where all matches must be preceded by a short promo and which must also have a Gutcheck challenge, a random title match that comes with a series of backstage vignettes, and any non-BFG segments that need to make the show. 8 matches on one 2 hour TV show is a bad idea. Kicking off the 1st official week of the BFGS with a series of short, mostly nothing matches, some of which made me wonder why guys involved in major storylines (Daniels, for example) and main event level guys (RVD) are losing a random match in 3 minutes, feels like a misstep. As it was, it made for a crammed, mostly forgettable episode. At least they dropped Devon's token TV Title defense in the interest of time. That's not to say I didn't think there was some good stuff tonight...

Aries' promo was really good. The X Champ getting a title shot every year is another idea that's good on its surface. Unfortunately, the division is basically dead and unless they hire another Aries, build him up between now and presumably next year's Destination X and hope he clicks and delivers like Aries did, or throw someone like AJ back in the division a couple months before the title shot, they have no credible potential future challenger. Does this mean Zema Ion is getting the X belt w/i the month? Meh. It's too bad Sabin got injured and Shelley quit. Those are about the only two guys I could see maybe carrying a flatlined X Division to something occasionally entertaining w/o TNA bringing in an upper level Indy/foreign talent, which bucks the trend seen in w/ most of their recent hires. Zema Ion, Kid Kash, Mark Haskins (is he still there?) and whoever else is left aren't going to cut it.

The KO segments this week were pretty bad. Tessmacher vs. Mickie getting more time than RVD vs. Hardy, Anderson vs. Daniels, and Joe vs. Storm was something. I will say RVD and Hardy sure did a lot with the 3-4 minutes they got.

The less said about that awful last segment the better. Still might not have been as bad as Cena-Cole a few weeks ago
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.92
There's a problem with involving people in wrestling that don't have a clue about wrestling.

Instead of saying "Miss Tessmacher has been training" they say "Miss Tessmacher has been practicing." May as well wear a sign saying "this is all fake" when you start using terms like that.

Of course, Brooke's subtle "this is all bullshit and I'm above it" attitude is another thing altogether.
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#18 Posted on
I, thankfully, had the last segment on mute until Daniels/Kaz ran down to ringside. That powerbomb AJ gave Kaz was nasty, in a "he may have got a concussion" kinda way.

Otherwise, it felt like they were cramming in two weeks worth of stuff into one week.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00

After reading the positive reviews from last week's show, I decided to give this one a shot ... I enjoyed the opening concept & the idea of "option C" ...

... but the angle at the end made me decide to just read recaps from now on.
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.75
    Originally posted by Tribal Prophet
    Of course, Brooke's subtle "this is all bullshit and I'm above it" attitude is another thing altogether.

I think they need to go the HHH-Stephanie route with Brooke and some up and coming heel that Hogan despises. The fans are just dying to boo the shit out of her, so let them. I would say Roode, even though he doesn't really need it, but the situation would set up perfectly after his exchange with Hogan last night.
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