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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.94
Didn't see a thread on the show so I thought what the hell. Decent show again though i face palmed at Hardy wanting a 4 way number 1 contender's match rather than just being the number 1 contender automatically! With decisions like that i thought he'd been taking tips from James Storm.

It Factor vs Bad Influence should be outstanding. Get the titles on Bad Influence quickly i say, they've taken way too many pins of late and a title reign coupled with the awesomeness of It Factor doing the chasing should benefit all.

New X-Division rules are a bit of a disappointment. Permanent multiple man matches just say to me 'spotfest over strong characters and strongly built feuds'.

Nice vids from Bully Ray, did a decent job of leaping over the plot holes, i think he was channelling his inner Joe Carroll from that nonsense The Following. Still doesn't change the fact that he's leader to a team of jobbers that suck monkey balls and that i still hope disappear for good at Slammiversary.

Let Bully overcome Hardy and make Morgan prove himself to Hogan and become number 1 contender. They should end the group eventually make Morgan relevant again and give us some entertaining jousting on the mic.
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.12
I am not aboard the Morgan bandwagon. I feel he is just a vanilla big man at this point. Bully explaining the plot was at least a nice omission by TNA that, this shit needs explanation. Hats off for that, because too many times in wrestling we don't get that due to the fact the booker thinks we are morons when in fact they can't write.

I liked the X Division match, but this can be sustained. Hot ref girl turning to Hot KO wrestler is fine by me. Her spear is pretty good, the question is does she know anything else. Kaz/Daniels vs. Aries/Roode on top of Storm/AJ maybe on of the best undercard feuds they have. I do like AJ playing as Sting. This heel turn is way better than little Flair which he did better than Miz is doing now.

Speaking of Sting, Hogan's line to him about hiding in the rafters was great. Jeff has the savior of TNA does nothing for me. It really should be Joe or AJ or Aries til they figure that out, they will keep shoving goth paint face Cena with a addiction problem down our throats.



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.93
I loved the Master Plan segments. I wish they addressed D'Lo's motivation.

The new X division rules are fine with me, so long as they are temporary. I hate the concept of a weight limit for them. Kenny King is starting to win me over.

Morgan v. Park was the funnest match tonight.

It was weird to have an AJ segment without Bad Influences crashing it. AJ's badboy hood look is epic.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.37
Ok, I gave the show a look tonight.

I'm legit shocked that they spent an ample amount of time having Ray recap the whole Aces angle and explain every little intricacy of his "master plan." You know what shocked me even more? The explanation...made SENSE! Ok, Ray wasn't going to cover EVERY plot hole (I still don't know why he didn't just play the Aces at Turning Point during the main event with Jeff), but about 95% of that explanation made total sense and addressed many of the angle's inconsistencies. As a guy that's had to deal with this angle at every turn, I can't express enough how much I genuinely appreciated this effort. And it actually made the Aces seem like a bigger deal. I really liked this!

It doesn't solve the problem of, aside from Ray, the entire stable being made up of terrible wrestlers, but you can't have it all, I suppose.

You know what IS going to rule? The Bad Influence/Greatest Factor feud! I don't want to see any of these guys hold back! I want to see INSANE amounts of cheating and heel tactics from both sides! Go nuts and have FUN with this! Because God knows the main event angle is taking itself way too seriously, so we need some levity.

The jury is out on the AJ angle for me.




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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.60
    Originally posted by It's False
    Ok, I gave the show a look tonight.

    I'm legit shocked that they spent an ample amount of time having Ray recap the whole Aces angle and explain every little intricacy of his "master plan." You know what shocked me even more? The explanation...made SENSE! Ok, Ray wasn't going to cover EVERY plot hole (I still don't know why he didn't just play the Aces at Turning Point during the main event with Jeff), but about 95% of that explanation made total sense and addressed many of the angle's inconsistencies.


See, I figure that if you have to spend like 20 minutes recapping, re-editing, and retconning a major angle from the last 9 months just to get it to "kind of" make sense, then maybe your booking team needs to get its shit together.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.28
    Originally posted by Tenken347
      Originally posted by It's False
      Ok, I gave the show a look tonight.

      I'm legit shocked that they spent an ample amount of time having Ray recap the whole Aces angle and explain every little intricacy of his "master plan." You know what shocked me even more? The explanation...made SENSE! Ok, Ray wasn't going to cover EVERY plot hole (I still don't know why he didn't just play the Aces at Turning Point during the main event with Jeff), but about 95% of that explanation made total sense and addressed many of the angle's inconsistencies.


    See, I figure that if you have to spend like 20 minutes recapping, re-editing, and retconning a major angle from the last 9 months just to get it to "kind of" make sense, then maybe your booking team needs to get its shit together.


I thought both of these things while watching this. I think we all saw most of this as it was unfolding, but we were too busy banging our heads against the walls because they dragged all this out for NINE stinking months. For instance, I totally forgot that Devon had been 'slighted' by Hogan and TNA. If they could have somehow made every turn, attack, promo and reveal as crisp as this little segment we might have something.

They still might be able to salvage some of this which is amazing, but it doesn't change the fact that TNA wasted all this time driving us crazy and making us tune in and out because they can't put together a coherent product.

Small credit to TNA for realizing when they have fucked up an angle. They bailed on the Claire Lynch angle and they have back tracked some here and reset some of it. The WWE probably keeps driving it home or turns it into some kind of painful joke that isn't funny, but Cole and King chuckle anyways.

Hogan telling Sting to go hide in the rafters made me laugh. I actually saw where he was coming from when he told Sting off this week, unlike last week.

I don't like Austin Aries. There I said it.

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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.22
I didn't see the show, but I did see the Bully Ray' s videos online and man you can make a very strong case that he's right there with Punk as the best promo guy in wrestling. Bully has done great work in ECW and in the WWE, but man his work as a heel the last two years in TNA is flat out his best work by a mile. I hope he gets a long run with the title and if TNA wants to make a new star on the babyface side all they gotta do is put him up against Ray and he'll make the guy. Jeff Hardy putting up his number one contendership in a four way match is dumb as hell as are the new X division rules.

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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.37
    Originally posted by graves9
    Jeff Hardy putting up his number one contendership in a four way match is dumb as hell as are the new X division rules.

Ok, see now you're bringing up stuff I didn't like and I really wanted to be positive(ly Kanyon) with this show.

If the endgame was to set up a Ray/Jeff rematch, was it really necessary to go through the whole four-way charade? To them, I'm sure the plan was to cement that Jeff was the top guy, but in practice, it just put everyone else a notch below him and made it so that none of those other guys could be taken entirely seriously in the world title picture later on. And don't get me started on that crowd reaction. That crowd was SOLIDLY behind Joe and Kurt and couldn't give two shits about Rainbow Brite.

And who thought those X Division rules were a good idea? First of all, the ranks of the X Division aren't exactly bursting at the seams to the point that the division can support three-way title defenses as the norm. But then you also consider that three-way feuds, for the most part, are pretty ridiculous. They're fine as a novelty, but there's a reason that one-on-one has always been the norm. I feel like this was done to create more spotfests, but as the Lockdown anti-classic might suggest, this doesn't necessarily lead to good results.

I will redact the previous paragraph if TNA brings back RUBIX~!




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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.93
Some more points:

It was brilliant to admit that the original Aces and Eights plan was supposed to end at Bound For Glory until 1. Hogan was better at locking them out than Ray expected, and 2. Hardy was more resilient than Ray planned for. It was as if Ray was saying "yeah, I also thought that this dragged on for a lot longer than I wanted it to."

I thought Hardy putting his rematch on the line was annoying, but it fits his character. Hardy is better than the other wrestlers. Magnus and Joe are not threats, and Angle can't beat Jeff. Furthermore, Hardy is an admitted conman and shill for the fans. Looking badass in front of the fans is more important to him than it is to the other three.

The Hogan/Sting segment was funny in part because while what Hogan said was true, most of the time when Sting pulled the rafter stunt Hogan was the bad guy. From the perspective of the fans, Sting was always in the right, but from Hollywood's perspective Sting was always a thorn in his side. Even though Sting/Hogan are BFFs now, it makes sense for Hogan to be a little sensitive about the all the trouble Sting caused him over the years.
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.13
My first tna in years.... I liked how they summarized aces and eights in the bully portion and thought the 4way was ok.




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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
Not caught TNA for a few months as the Aces angle was unbearable. I enjoyed the majority of this episode though.

Anyone else thinking the AJ angle is quite Sting circa late '96? (with Storm as Luger?)



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