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Brian
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Since: 13.11.11
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.67
I guess imma gonna do the impact report this week again. My thoughts:

I long for the days when Dixie wasn’t on TV. At least Roode cut a good promo and continues to be great.
Abyss & Samoa Joe could do with a few months off to get in shape and get repackaged.
They kind of tried to get people interested in the tag title match, but I don’t care about Morgan/Crimson or the awful, never ending never progressing Pope/Devon storyline. It may be wise to quit doing segments with Morgan & Crimson that mention the Machine Guns, Beer Money & 3D. It just shows how weak that division currently is and how inferior a team the current champs are to many past ones. I guess it’d be somewhat OK if it was all building to the Guns return, though I doubt it is. Even then it’s a bad idea. I can’t wait until the Devon’s sons thing is done. I can’t believe how many actual wrestlers those 2 get more TV time than.
Speaking of people’s kids who inexplicably get TV time, why for the 2nd month in a row was there a big angle involving Garett on the go home show when it has nothing to do with the PPV? Garett vs. Gunner is a series I don’t need to see continue. It’s too bad that injury angle is likely just setting up Garett’s triumphant return in a few weeks to build to his 1st big singles PPV match (Garett/Gunner IV, hooray!) rather than a way to send him to OVW where he belongs for a few years. Funny how that storyline got 5th quarter (usually a ratings gainer and 1 of the 3 most important quarters) placement again.
The Storm/Angle segment was great and Storm continues to shine. That should have opened the hour. I look forward to that match. I hope Angle isn’t coming back too soon for it.
I continue to wish they’d drop this bad Traci storyline. She remains a totally unsympathetic babyface and isn’t good in any area.
The main event could have been more, but was fine. The final angle was really good, cheesy outro music aside.
I’m bummed by the zero X Division presence on the show (renewed push!), but hey, at least they found matches/segments for the president of the company, the executive producer, his green unover son, 1 wrestler’s 2 sons for a bad unover storyline, & a wrestler’s wife, none of whom have a match on the PPV unlike the X Division.


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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.99
Is it a given now that Joe is gone as soon as his contract is up? It sure seems like it.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.49
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    Is it a given now that Joe is gone as soon as his contract is up? It sure seems like it.
Didn't he sign a multi year deal a year ago? That's what Dixie Carter tweeted a year ago. The talk was that he reached out to the WWE last December and they didn't show interest so he re-signed with TNA. Austin has praised him and stated the WWE should sign him and Punk is his close bud so if I'm wrong about him signing a multi year deal he might have an in.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.99
The underlying buzzy buzz this year has been that there's a spot for him in WWE should he want it, which would be a major turnaround given that they've never seemed interested before. But even without WWE offering him a contract I'd have thought that the Sinclair deal would've been enough to entice him back to ROH as a main eventer. His TNA career is completely unsalvagable at this point.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.79
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    The underlying buzzy buzz this year has been that there's a spot for him in WWE should he want it, which would be a major turnaround given that they've never seemed interested before. But even without WWE offering him a contract I'd have thought that the Sinclair deal would've been enough to entice him back to ROH as a main eventer. His TNA career is completely unsalvagable at this point.


God, I hope he takes it. Joe deserves more then being job food for everyone in TNA while Gunner and Garrett get pushes and Robbie E(!!) is the television champion.

God knows it's TNA and I can't imagine multi-year contracts meaning a whole lot, given the state of their company.

(edited by wannaberockstar on 9.12.11 1036)
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TNA utterly wasted a guy who could be making them millions. He was in the title title hunt prior to Hogan and Eric taking over and now he is a glorified jobber to the stars. I just can't get into the product right now. They have people I love on the show, but they are either pushing people I can't stand ie Bischoff's kid or have so messed up the storylines its just sad. Its not this hard to run a company when you have a good women's division, good young talent and people who can actually wrestle. Yet, for them its Quantum physics.



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Twitter: @realjoecarfley its a bit more toned down there. A bit.
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.49
    Originally posted by lotjx
    TNA utterly wasted a guy who could be making them millions. He was in the title title hunt prior to Hogan and Eric taking over and now he is a glorified jobber to the stars. I just can't get into the product right now. They have people I love on the show, but they are either pushing people I can't stand ie Bischoff's kid or have so messed up the storylines its just sad. Its not this hard to run a company when you have a good women's division, good young talent and people who can actually wrestle. Yet, for them its Quantum physics.
While it's true he did get a couple of title shots before Hogan and Bischoff came in he really wasn't being pushed and he hasn't been used correctly since Russo started booking again in '06. He has been a JTTS for years now. While he did get a six month title reign it was terribly booked, and he needed Kevin Nash's help to beat a washed up Booker T and after he lost the title thanks to Nash he came out on the losing end in a feud with Nash.

(edited by graves9 on 9.12.11 1144)
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.98
    Originally posted by graves9
      Originally posted by lotjx
      TNA utterly wasted a guy who could be making them millions. He was in the title title hunt prior to Hogan and Eric taking over and now he is a glorified jobber to the stars. I just can't get into the product right now. They have people I love on the show, but they are either pushing people I can't stand ie Bischoff's kid or have so messed up the storylines its just sad. Its not this hard to run a company when you have a good women's division, good young talent and people who can actually wrestle. Yet, for them its Quantum physics.
    While it's true he did get a couple of title shots before Hogan and Bischoff came in he really wasn't being pushed and he hasn't been used correctly since Russo started booking again in '06. He has been a jtts for years now. While he did get a six month title reign it was terribly booked and he needed Kevin Nash's help to beat a washed up Booker T and after he lost the title thanks to Nash he came out on the losing hand in a feud with Nash.


So many angles that went nowhere and sucked to begin with:

-Samoan Savage Knife Weilding Joe
-Taz Disciple Joe
-In it for the Money Nash Disciple Joe
-Losing Streak Joe
Brian
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.67
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    The underlying buzzy buzz this year has been that there's a spot for him in WWE should he want it, which would be a major turnaround given that they've never seemed interested before. But even without WWE offering him a contract I'd have thought that the Sinclair deal would've been enough to entice him back to RHO as a main event. His TNA career is completely unsalvagable at this point.
dunno if your rite with Mark Henry an Brodus Clay in the WWE. I was a subscriber 2 the wrestling observer newsletter until a yr ago n meltzer reported that Joe gauged the WWE's interest in him and there was none so he returned to TNA. he has a young family an TNA pays better than roh an thats why he didn't sign there. poor Kenny king gets paid so little by roh he works at chip n dales.
Brian
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.67
Another thing its really worth going out to see Storms promo on Angle last nite. How bout Chris Masters pretty much begging Dixie Carter to sign him on facebook and twitter? Hes trying to get the iwc behind him. Is he a worthy signing?
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.25
    Originally posted by Brian
    Another thing its really worth going out to see Storms promo on Angle last nite. How bout Chris Masters pretty much begging Dixie Carter to sign him on facebook and twitter? Hes trying to get the iwc behind him. Is he a worthy signing?


I like Masters. I think his first run with the WWE ended just as he was making week-to-week progress, and he became a solid face midcarder during his second run.

And as a Masters fan, I say this: TNA doesn't need more people.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.49
    Originally posted by Brian
    Another thing its really worth going out to see Storms promo on Angle last nite. How bout Chris Masters pretty much begging Dixie Carter to sign him on facebook and twitter? Hes trying to get the iwc behind him. Is he a worthy signing?
Well, he has signed up for the TNA project in India so it might just be a matter of time. Is he a worthy signing? I'm not sure. There is a lot of people that said he improved a ton in the last year, but I don't watch Smackdown much and really never watched Superstars so I wouldn't know. Edit: As Mr. Tracker says the roster is rather bloated as is and he'd get lost in the shuffle. I'd say unless they get rid of deadwood like Abyss, Gunner, Hernandez and numerous others I'm not sure I see a place for him.

(edited by graves9 on 9.12.11 1215)

(edited by graves9 on 9.12.11 1216)
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.39
    Originally posted by Brian
      Originally posted by Amos Cochran
      The underlying buzzy buzz this year has been that there's a spot for him in WWE should he want it, which would be a major turnaround given that they've never seemed interested before. But even without WWE offering him a contract I'd have thought that the Sinclair deal would've been enough to entice him back to RHO as a main event. His TNA career is completely unsalvagable at this point.
    dunno if your rite with Mark Henry an Brodus Clay in the WWE. I was a subscriber 2 the wrestling observer newsletter until a yr ago n meltzer reported that Joe gauged the WWE's interest in him and there was none so he returned to TNA. he has a young family an TNA pays better than roh an thats why he didn't sign there. poor Kenny king gets paid so little by roh he works at chip n dales.
I'm sorry, but if you can't spell correctly I will have to ask you to leave. (This is my second request.)

So we're clear:
/dunno/I don't know/
/rite/right/
/an/and/
/2/to/
/yr/year/
/n/and/
/thats/that's/
Start sentences with capital letters
Man, you really seem to have a problem typing "and"

Also, please stop leave multiple replies in a row - just edit your last one if you find you've forgotten something.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.59
    Originally posted by Scottyflamingo

    So many angles that went nowhere and sucked to begin with:

    -Samoan Savage Knife Weilding Joe
    -Taz Disciple Joe
    -In it for the Money Nash Disciple Joe
    -Losing Streak Joe


I continue to wonder who attacked Joe with a swarm of ninjas and kidnapped him for a couple of months.

(edited by Dionysus on 9.12.11 1136)
OndaGrande
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When the KO's get two matches it's a good thing. No X match is a bad thing. If they had just cutout at Devon's promo that segment would have been well done, but drawing it out and making the angle a tension thing with the Pope, not so good. Devon's sons = BAD. Garrett Bischoff = WORSE. I told someone yesterday that TNA is like if you were hungry and someone gave you food that didn't taste any good but it's food, you were hungry, and they gave it to you so you ate it.



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Brian
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.67
    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by Brian
        Originally posted by Amos Cochran
        The underlying buzzy buzz this year has been that there's a spot for him in WWE should he want it, which would be a major turnaround given that they've never seemed interested before. But even without WWE offering him a contract I'd have thought that the Sinclair deal would've been enough to entice him back to RHO as a main event. His TNA career is completely unsalvagable at this point.
      dunno if your rite with Mark Henry an Brodus Clay in the WWE. I was a subscriber 2 the wrestling observer newsletter until a yr ago n meltzer reported that Joe gauged the WWE's interest in him and there was none so he returned to TNA. he has a young family an TNA pays better than roh an thats why he didn't sign there. poor Kenny king gets paid so little by roh he works at chip n dales.
    I'm sorry, but if you can't spell correctly I will have to ask you to leave. (This is my second request.)

    So we're clear:
    /dunno/I don't know/
    /rite/right/
    /an/and/
    /2/to/
    /yr/year/
    /n/and/
    /thats/that's/
    Start sentences with capital letters
    Man, you really seem to have a problem typing "and"

    Also, please stop leave multiple replies in a row - just edit your last one if you find you've forgotten something.
Sorry Bossman, it won't happen again.
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