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Impact started off with a good video package that showed how we got to Roode Vs Storm tonight and had a really strong opening segment with James Storm cutting a excellent promo talking about growing up in the south and how he made it all the way to being a world champ. Roode came out and cut out a good promo as well talking about how they both were struggling until they teamed up and how they’re both family men and how the winner would be the better man. The only complaint about the promo was there was a little too much talk about tearing the house down and putting on a show vs the need to put over the importance of the world title more. It was still a strong segment though.

Gail Kim and Madison Rayne vs Tara and Tessmacher was okay, albeit it was a bit sloppy due to green as grass Tessmacher being in there most of the time. This being TNA you needed to have Hebner look like a fool a couple of times and have a distraction to lead to the finish. Karen Jarrett continues to be positioned as the authority figure of th knockout even though it makes no sense since Sting is now in charge, but hey if the announcers don’t ask why she’s still in charge of the knockouts I guess we shouldn't either.

The best thing I can say about the Bischoffs in ring segment was that it didn't last very long and lets just move on. I’m so looking to seeing Garrett Bischoff wrestle I’m sure he’ll be as good as Erik Watts maybe they could team up as Techno Team 3000.

I’m really enjoying Daniels as a delusional heel as it’s bumped new life in him. It’s too bad that he never win, but hey at least he’s on tv unlike other talented guys. I don’t see him having a chance in hell of going over RVD sadly. RVD is as stale as anyone in wrestling and really has added nothing to the promotion, but hey he’s cashing a big check, so he’s got that going for him.

Sorenson Vs Aries was an okay match with Aries controlling the match and ending like so many X division match end with a fluky roll up. I do not see what TNA sees in Sorenson as he has a bland look and is green and isn't very exciting in the ring. Hey he was trained by Brian Knobs so he gets tv time while uber talented Alex Shelley sits at home. The X division continues to be dormant with X division wrestlers getting no promo time for the most part and 3-4 minute matches. Kid Kash hates Sorensen because he’s disrespectful guy that doesn't shake veterans hands. Whatever.

My goodness was the Jersey shore segment awful. I’m sure it drew a big rating going up against the start of Beavis and Butt head. Hey we get a Garrett Bischoff match and a Ronnie from Jersey Shore match next week. I’m stoked bro! I can’t believe how Dixie shells out money to these jersey shore losers and see they have no positive effect on Impact ratings like JWoww didn't and still pay Ronnie big money. Rob Terry is the least talented guy in wrestling and that includes that stiff Mason Ryan. What a waste of space all four guys are in that segment.

Anderson and Hardy Vs Jarrett and Bully Ray was a solid enough match
for the five minutes it was given. If you've seen one Immortal beat down you've seen them all. I guess the Anderson-Ray feud is continuing and I’m not sure why. Anderson going over Ray in a streetfight felt like the blow off to the feud. I’d actually rather see Ray move on and feud with Hardy instead of Jarrett.

Roode Vs Storm was an terrific match, that got plenty of time. Roode and Storm pulled out all the stops and had the crowd in the palm of their hands. The announcers even did a good job talking about the familiarity and strategy as well as their in ring styles and move sets. The match had good chain wrestling and went from there to a more high impact style as the match went on. I do wish they could have shown the entire match instead of cutting to commercial early in the match. The match finish was typical TNA turning Roode heel months before he should have turned and pissing away six months of storyline in a few weeks. This move is the exact reason why the company doesn't make money. Why not have Roode win the title at BFG? Nah lets give Storm a two week title reign and then hotshot the title to Roode and turn him heel to shock people instead of having patience and making two stars and drawing money. Nah lets piss everything away and put the title on a crackhead like Hardy in a few months instead. I do agree that Storm has more potential as a baby face and Roode could be a great heel but not this soon. This feud could have used a six month build up, but hey three weeks is just as good right?

All in all, the show had good quality wrestling, but mind numbingly stupid booking and and the booking in the main event shows why this company continues to draw the same ratings they have since ’07 and nobody buys their PPVS. Oh yeah and there was a good amount of segments that I didn't care about like the Jersey shore loser and the battling Bischoffs. This company continues to be clueless and seems to take great joy in out stupiding the WWE creative team. I look forward to Roode joining Immortal and being a Jarrett like champion with 57 people running in every match so he could hold onto the title. Won’t that be wonderful?




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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.07
HATED the ending of the main event. Not Roode turning heel, but the way it was done. Having Roode succumb to temptation and take advantage of the bottle was good, but then Roode instantly turns into a despicable heel, spitting on Storm. Should have had him celebrate, realise what he did and then leave quickly and quietly with the belt. Hell, it would be something different to see Roode TRY and stay face in his own eyes.

Rest of the show was the usual. The only good thing about Bischoff's kid is that this angle MAY lead to Bischoff being off TV.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.62
I thought Roode vs. Storm was just okay. I understood what they were trying to do, but it barely got out of first gear before the break, and only picked up a little bit after that.

Crimson and Matt Morgan also had a confrontation. I still think it's a mistake to have Crimson and Morgan go face-to-face so often, since it exposes that Crimson isn't really as big as he seems.



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Not for nothing but didn't Roode start off as a heel and go nowhere? Maybe he could just go back and get Tracy Brooks again and complete the circle.

Good job for TNA, though, they've managed to blow through a nice title reign for James Storm, a slow-build to a heel turn for Roode, and the Roode vs. Storm ("former friends now enemies") PPV match all in the span of two weeks!

Also, kudos to the ref for not only ignoring the shards of glass from the bottle in the ring and also going out of his way to not mash your hand into them at the same time.

(edited by wannaberockstar on 4.11.11 0832)
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.07
    Originally posted by wannaberockstar
    Not for nothing but didn't Roode start off as a heel and go nowhere? Maybe he could just go back and get Tracy Brooks again and complete the circle.

    Good job for TNA, though, they've managed to blow through a nice title reign for James Storm, a slow-build to a heel turn for Roode, and the Roode vs. Storm ("former friends now enemies") PPV match all in the span of two weeks!

    Also, kudos to the ref for not only ignoring the shards of glass from the bottle in the ring and also going out of his way to not mash your hand into them at the same time.

    (edited by wannaberockstar on 4.11.11 0832)


They should have just had the match go to a 15 minute draw, then had the rematch on PPV. They get to have a big free tv match, but also sell the PPV. Why is it the angles we want them to blow off in a week (Bishoff's kid, Joker Sting) take forever while anything good is thrown out in five minutes?
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.23
    Originally posted by geemoney
    I thought Roode vs. Storm was just okay. I understood what they were trying to do, but it barely got out of first gear before the break, and only picked up a little bit after that.


Agreed. They moved in slow motion. Storm barely got his knees up to Roode's butt for that Backstabber.

LOVED the Borash introductions. That helps sell the main event.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.63
I suppose it could be argued that they have built up to this over the last several months if you include the BfG Series, where Roode and Storm both talked about always dreaming of being World Champion. Yes, I know this may not have been the original plan going into the Angle match at BfG, but as a Plan B, it is not without some foreshadowing. It wasn’t pulled out of their ass, and it makes sense. But cramming these title matches all into a few weeks is not good booking, even if I don’t think it needed to stretch out for 6 months, because technically, it already has. But why not at least wait until the next PPV to have last night’s match? My guess is they wanted to capitalize on the slight ratings boost after BfG.

I must agree with graves9 on RVD. His act is so stale, and he has had the same look since 1996. Even Cena changes his shorts every few years! Why not turn THAT guy heel? That would be something we haven’t seen from RVD, the rebel selling out and putting on a suit, maybe even cutting his hair. Anything would be better than his current going through the motions.





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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.23
    Originally posted by kentish
    Why not turn THAT guy heel? That would be something we haven’t seen from RVD, the rebel selling out and putting on a suit, maybe even cutting his hair. Anything would be better than his current going through the motions.



And heel RVD sells like Mr. Perfect and Dolph Ziggler. When he turned heel in ECW, he sold piledrivers by bouncing back up into the air.




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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.64

    But why not at least wait until the next PPV to have last night’s match? My guess is they wanted to capitalize on the slight ratings boost after BfG.


The explanation Meltzer has been pushing is TNA really wants to do these on location shows, they need Spike's support to do them, they need higher ratings on the on location shows to get Spike's support, so they're loading up the on location shows to goose those ratings.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.63
    Originally posted by thecubsfan

      But why not at least wait until the next PPV to have last night’s match? My guess is they wanted to capitalize on the slight ratings boost after BfG.


    The explanation Meltzer has been pushing is TNA really wants to do these on location shows, they need Spike's support to do them, they need higher ratings on the on location shows to get Spike's support, so they're loading up the on location shows to goose those ratings.

Well, there ya go, that makes sense. We hear a lot of complaints about shortsightedness, but if a company is fighting for survival, or a Spike contract renewal, what is the point of long term booking?




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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.07
    Originally posted by thecubsfan

      But why not at least wait until the next PPV to have last night’s match? My guess is they wanted to capitalize on the slight ratings boost after BfG.


    The explanation Meltzer has been pushing is TNA really wants to do these on location shows, they need Spike's support to do them, they need higher ratings on the on location shows to get Spike's support, so they're loading up the on location shows to goose those ratings.


hasn't dave also said for the longest time, TNA wanted to stop doing monthly PPVs (no buys, money pit), but didn't stop because it would be bad optics for the company to not do them.

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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.64

    hasn't dave also said for the longest time, TNA wanted to stop doing monthly PPVs (no buys, money pit), but didn't stop because it would be bad optics for the company to not do them.


At times he's said that, and other times it's seemed more a "everyone wants to cancel PPVs but Dixie, so they're not doing it" thing. It looks bad to someone, it's just not consistent about who.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.96
    Originally posted by thecubsfan

      hasn't dave also said for the longest time, TNA wanted to stop doing monthly PPVs (no buys, money pit), but didn't stop because it would be bad optics for the company to not do them.


    At times he's said that, and other times it's seemed more a "everyone wants to cancel PPVs but Dixie, so they're not doing it" thing. It looks bad to someone, it's just not consistent about who.





Is it possibly because Dixie realizes the only reason she has her 'toy' is because Panda needs a loss leader, thus if they are successful they actually would be a failure? That would explain a lot of the booking/decisions through the years.
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.24
    Originally posted by kentish
      Originally posted by thecubsfan

        But why not at least wait until the next PPV to have last night’s match? My guess is they wanted to capitalize on the slight ratings boost after BfG.


      The explanation Meltzer has been pushing is TNA really wants to do these on location shows, they need Spike's support to do them, they need higher ratings on the on location shows to get Spike's support, so they're loading up the on location shows to goose those ratings.

    Well, there ya go, that makes sense. We hear a lot of complaints about shortsightedness, but if a company is fighting for survival, or a Spike contract renewal, what is the point of long term booking?


The thing is, their hotshot shows don't get higher ratings because their shots aren't hot. So maybe you'd be more likely to hook people with a well-told story they could get invested in (like the slow burn between two popular friends and eventual betrayal and eventual revenge) where you stick with it to see the story play out, not a constant flood of matches of great consequence that are really of no consequence. cuz TV ratings have turned around historically on semi-serialized big picture angles like Austin/Hart Foundation, Austin/Vince, ascension of Brock Lesnar, and Batista/HHH, not kitchen sinking -- which is also the story of WWE living and dying with making their quarterly profit margin look good at the expense of everything else.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.36
    Originally posted by wannaberockstar
    Not for nothing but didn't Roode start off as a heel and go nowhere? Maybe he could just go back and get Tracy Brooks again and complete the circle.

    (edited by wannaberockstar on 4.11.11 0832)
Yes but that was six years ago, and he's come a long way from there. They didn't exactly do much with him besides for give him a useless valet who he always argued with. Roode is a natural heel and has the potential to be one of the best heels in the business, but it depends on the booking, and we all know we can't trust them to book him well.
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.41
Yeah, I have no issue with Roode as a heel, in and of itself. It's just that this whole story was fast-forwarded at a ridiculous pace. Even if TNA wanted to move quickly, at least work it like....

Bound For Glory: Roode beats Angle for the belt

Next PPV: Storm gets the first title shot and beats Roode. Roode is happy for his buddy but secretly crushed that his long-awaited championship reign only lasted a few weeks.

PPV After That: Storm/Roode rematch. Storm wins again, this time Roode is outwardly upset or perhaps you even do the heel turn here.

Instead, this whole story was sloughed into two weeks.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.09
It screams "We fucked up to me." This company has to let go of Hogan, yesterday. I am happy for James and Bobby, but there was a bunch of better ways to get all of which didn't including fucking up the main event to your biggest PPV of the year. I just hope they can carry this past the point, Spike thinks Hogan is still a draw in the 21st Century.

You have to build interest to spike ratings. They did a great job with that for BFG got a great rating. I doubt this week or last week's rating will be a positive for them. Time and time again, its proven you need to build interesting and it takes time. Hotshoting shit is a terrible idea especially after a giant build.



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.52
Bobby Roode is clearly more ready for a title reign than he was three weeks ago.

Roode winning at BFG upstages Hogan's magic moment.

Blah, garbage.

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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
Weird stuff with Storm suposedly being injured going on. He supposedly suffered a legit concussion the week after winning the belt, but he's still working.
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.36
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    Weird stuff with Storm suposedly being injured going on. He supposedly suffered a legit concussion the week after winning the belt, but he's still working.
Yes it's weird. I hope he's not really hurt and it's just an angle. They did sit Anderson out for a few months with a concussion last year, but that was after they did throw him out for a couple of house show matches after he sustained a concussion. Storm's explanation that he can work part time or something doesn't make much sense. A.J Styles is injured too as he has a high ankle sprain and might not be able to work at Turning Point.
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