I thought this was a pretty good show for the most part. I thought the opening segment with Storm and Roode was terrific. It was two guys that know their characters talked about how important their match is and how important it was to win the match The segment made was very effective and made them both out to be big stars. This was one of their strongest opening segments in a long time.
I liked the Kaz-Gunner match. It told a good story as Gunner went after arm the entire match and the announcers added to the match by talking about how Kaz had torn his triceps a few years ago. It made sense that Gunner would like to injure Kaz as he's Immortals hencheman and Jarrett siced him on Kaz. I really like Gunner's in ring work yes he doesn't have a personality, but he's pretty solid in the ring.
I didn't care for the Bully Ray-Anderson segment because Anderson did most of the talking and his act is tired and he's so obnoxious and cutesy and so irrating. He is probably my least favorite wrestler. Anyway yadda yadda yadda Anderson and Ray will be having a streetfight at BFG. I am hoping Ray goes over because he's one of the best heels in the business and has brought a lot to the table unlike Anderson. I think Ray could be a good guy that can be thrown in there against Roode on one of the ppv's if Roode wins the title. I suspect Anderson will go over though.. The less said the better about the knockouts tag team match. I love Velvet Sky but she can't wrestle to save her life. She is as bad and maybe worse than Kelly Kelly which says a lot. Mickie James much like RVD seems to be mailing it in.
Joe Vs Crimson was okay but again Crimson is not over in the least while Joe has been booked terribly and is still over like crazy which is amazing because he;s been a jtts for years now. The guy gets superstar reactions, but TNA totally ignores it. I guess they tried to protect Joe by having Crimson beating him in a flukey way, but it just continues to send a message that Joe is all bark and no bite when all he does is job. Joe's contract is up soon and I'd bet he's on the way out and to be fair he's not exactly giving it his all the last few months. Then again you can say that's understandable. I loved the video package on Roode. It was very strong talking to his family getting sound clips from him and showing his working out, studying tape getting ready for the best match of his career.
Roode Vs Storm was a tremendous matchup wihich had a big match feel with the special ring introds by Borash and the match got fifteen minutes and had a great pace and built well from chain wrestling and then the intensity ratcheted up as the match went up and it had good near falls and the crowd in Knoxville was pretty good too. They clearly want to have these guys face of down the line , so they went with a screwy and confusing ending with Angle getting involved and attacking Storm which lead to Roode picking up the win. It sets up Storm bitching in a few months how Roode never beat him clean and how he deserves a title shot if Roode is the champ. Good stuff all around imo it was around a three and a half star match.
I skipped the Hogan stuff but I read reports and it lead to Sting showing a tape where Hogan admitted he was bullshitting and not really retirement. This all lead to the match being made offical and Hogan unprompted putting up control of the company, so we;'re getting Dixie Carter back soon. Oy. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All in all solid enough show besides for the Hogan nonsense.
Well I don't think they could have done a better job building up Roode than they have. I hope he does take the belt and the locker room hoists him up on their shoulders to celebrate.
Also Immortal should end @ the PPV. It's run it's course. I hope they don't turn Storm heel cuz he's so damn likable. I think they have so many fresh matches for Roode. He should really make Fortune relevant again(kick out Kazarian) and keep the whole gimmick.
I am looking forward to Hogan-Sting like every other Hogan match since I was 3 years old. If only this were the Hogan from 1991 we would have a barn burner of a match. As it is I hope it's overbooked to hell with some suprise run in's(like Vince-Hogan at Mania) either way this PPV has potential to be better than Mania 27(its in freakin Philly!)
I liked how Hogan didn't do a typical obviously-fake retirement speech, but instead gave what sounded like a sincere one. That got across his character trait of being highly disingenuous.
Now that Roode's run the Fortune gauntlet, I wonder what's left for the final week of the build to the match with Angle.
A large part of how I feel about an episode depends on if they finish on a high note. Sting finally successfully exasperating Hogan into not just agreeing to a match, but also offering to put the company on the line fit that role nicely.
Originally posted by graves9 All in all solid enough show besides for the Hogan nonsense.
...which you didn't watch?
Anyway, here's hoping they look back at Starrcade 97 and learn from WCW's mistakes. The match is going to be horrendous but Sting needs to come out of this the winner and the hero with absolutely no doubts that he was superior to Hogan. The fact Hogan's just re-signed has me slightly nervous, as does the fact I'm convinced Roode is winning the other main event, but Bound For Glory needs to be a night for babyfaces so having Sting and Roode both win isn't too much of a stretch.
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There's no way this pay-per-view will be better than WrestleMania XXVII; it won't put nearly as many butts in the seats as WrestleMania XXVII, and I find it doubtful that TNA will learn from the mistake WCW made at Starrcade '97.
This is TNA we're talking about.
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I can't say enough good things about how TNA has pushed Bobby Roode over the last month. They've done everything right with making him into a top guy, giving him credible and solid clean victories (over his stablemates, to boot, with everyone showing good sportsmanship afterwards except Daniels) and there is little doubt in my mind that it will pay off with him beating Angle at the PPV. Let's just hope Roode gets a nice, long title reign to really establish himself as the new face of the company.
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I don't see how Wrestlemania 27 is better than Bound for Glory just because it outdrew it.
Sure every year since 2005(BFG I) Wrestlemania has been better. But everyone of those WM's had 1-3 classic ****+ matches. But WM27 had 3 good matches, a ton of crap matches and the worst Main Event since Sid/Taker. Let's compare.
Roode vs Angle will almost for sure be better than Miz/Cena
Hogan vs Sting will suck, Trips/Taker was good for a "Legends" type match.
Aries/Kendrick has the chance to top Rey/Rhodes
Daniels/Styles has been and could be again miles better than Punk/Orton
Originally posted by ekedolphinThere's no way this pay-per-view will be better than WrestleMania XXVII; it won't put nearly as many butts in the seats as WrestleMania XXVII, and I find it doubtful that TNA will learn from the mistake WCW made at Starrcade '97.
This is TNA we're talking about.
I'm not gonna say that BFG is gonna be better than WM27 or anything like that, but a PPV can draw far fewer buys and much less people in the arena and still be a better PPV because it has better matches. I think the under card for BFG is very strong, but the ppv will be marred by the Hogan-Sting match, which will undoubtedly be an abomination. That match will sadly be what most people talk about over anything that happens on the PPV. I think that's why they at least need Roode to win the title and the Angle-Roode match must be the last match of the PPV. I mean ending a ppv with Hogan-Sting would be stupid even for TNA.
Heat, 2 weeks ago -- see TheCubsFan's recap here (thecubsfan.com) I like Ivory, & was actually quite happy when they did that turn. Jazz & Victoria are set up to be strong heels, last we saw of Molly she was a heel (IIRC -- its been a while!)