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|  #1 Posted on 27.1.10 1932.41 | Instant Rating: 8.44 | Starting in March. According to Meltzer. Beyond the one already-announced date. On the old Raw two-week schedule of Monday live/Tuesday tape.| Promote this thread! |           | CRZ
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| #2 Posted on 27.1.10 2011.01 | Instant Rating: 8.86 | Originally posted by JustinShapiro
Starting in March. According to Meltzer. Beyond the one already-announced date. On the old Raw two-week schedule of Monday live/Tuesday tape.
I wonder which hours they'll take? I am less likely to watch while directly competing with ROH but more likely to watch while directly competing with RAW. It's a net plus as far as I'm concerned because I really never watched it on Thursdays (I think I watched about half of the live one).
Ultimately this is the kind of move that, by itself, means nothing without other changes, all of which we've hashed and rehashed and not seen and I'm like Stone Cold Steve Austin watching the XFL.
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| #3 Posted on 27.1.10 2018.04 | Instant Rating: 2.33 | Originally posted by CRZ
I am less likely to watch while directly competing with ROH
I've seen you mention ROH a few times. I was under the impression you really didn't like it when you recapped those shows last summer - so you did like them? Or something changed? Or those shows sucked but some other show they do is good? Something else entirely? | Packman V2
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| #4 Posted on 28.1.10 0041.26 | Instant Rating: 6.48 | When I think of ROH's tv show, the first thought that comes to mind is "slap the porpoise, this one is over".
TNA on Monday...yikes.
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| #5 Posted on 28.1.10 0057.13 | Instant Rating: 4.28 | I'm sure Vince McMahon is doing backflips right now. Cena/Orton matches and juvenile DX skits don't seem nearly as stale compared to watching the Nasty Boys and another nWo reunion.
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| #6 Posted on 28.1.10 0549.14 | Instant Rating: 2.46 | TNA must be thinking that just because they've signed Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, Kurt Angle and about twenty WWE rejects, that they can actually serve as a viable alternative to WWE. Either that or they're deliberately sabotaging themselves. (Russo is still the guy with the book, right?)
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| #7 Posted on 28.1.10 0812.07 | Instant Rating: 5.03 | | I appreciate that I'll have something else to flip over to during commercials or if there's a segment I particularly dislike, but yeah, if they think they can muster real competition at this point in time, they're going to be sadly mistaken. | Matt Tracker
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| #8 Posted on 28.1.10 0820.25 | Instant Rating: 6.71 | House, Top Gear, Monday Night Football, RAW, and now TNA? And they're making the switch as RAW heads to WrestleMania?
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| #9 Posted on 28.1.10 0834.13 | Instant Rating: 1.41 | They might as well do it. They got a good rating and did affect Vince's ratings to a point, the last time. TNA has the most name recognition as far as wrestlers go then ever before, so why not go to Monday Nights. I am not saying there as talented as Raw is, but people know Hogan, Flair, the NWO and Kurt.
If they pull a 1.0 rating against Raw, its a success. They have been pulling 1.0 ratings since being on Spike and are profitable. I don't see changing nights as a big deal. As far as staleness goes, Orton/Cena and DX skits for almost a year has done nothing for them. Raw has a built audience they will get them a 3.5 where ten years ago and maybe in even six years ago, they pulled in 4.0s, 5.0s and a miracle 6.0 usually after Mania. They have lost a good chunk of their audience in the last few years, but they retain a hardcore group. TNA has to do the same thing where a 1.0 can keep them profitable then go after Vince. There is really no better time then now where Raw is really terrible and TNA has some momentum. Also, there is no football and most of the network shows will be gone in 3 months anyway. | Matt Tracker
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| #10 Posted on 28.1.10 1001.48 | Instant Rating: 6.71 | Originally posted by lotjx
They might as well do it.
WrestleMania is March 28; the RAWs before and after that will be packed. The next Monday (april 5) is the apex of March Madness. That's three weeks of pummeling.
They need a seriously hot angle (pun maybe apt) to keep any ratings spike (pun probably not apt) when they start a weekly Monday show.
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| #11 Posted on 28.1.10 1008.02 | Instant Rating: 1.47 | Originally posted by JustinShapiro
On the old Raw two-week schedule of Monday live/Tuesday tape.
I'm guessing Bischoff probably won't have any problem with Cole/Lawler giving away results of the taped TNA program at the top of their broadcast (if TNA so chooses to overlap at all). He should really warn Dixie about that. | kentish
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| #12 Posted on 28.1.10 1024.11 | Instant Rating: 4.58 | On the positive side (for a change of pace), I now have 3 wrestling shows to watch on Monday night! And that's awesome, IMO. On the negative side, I will probably only be able to DVR 2 at a time. But I think ROH does several replays, including later that night, and I hope TNA does so too. Raw still airs replays on UHD twice on Saturday nights.
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| #13 Posted on 28.1.10 1025.27 | Instant Rating: 2.37 | I'm really happy this is happening... mainly for my own selfish reasons. See, TNA, as it is, just isn't very interesting to me right now. But if they move to Monday, one of two things will happen: either they'll shock the cynics, gain traction, and prove to be worthy competition to the WWE -- which would be interesting -- or they'll fail spectacularly, ruining careers, destroying reputations & burning through obscene sums of money. And that would be kinda interesting, too.
So go for it, guys. Balls to the wall!
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|  #14 Posted on 28.1.10 1026.53 | Instant Rating: 3.21 | Does anyone have access to the stats on what Spike TV's usual Monday night fare usually produces in ratings?
Not that I'm one to dispense advice to the wrestling companies...but is another Monday Night War necessary? If TNA wants to compete, that's fine, but do it on their terms. Put their show on Tuesdays where they can compete against ECW (it's history soon anyways, right?) or maybe even Friday. Put a free show on the same night as a WWE PPV. Just don't go head to head against them. Yet.
Oh, and it's stupid as hell that Hogan wants to kill their house shows. How does TNA expect to make money when their broadcast TV series are free to attend?
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|  #15 Posted on 28.1.10 1101.31 | Instant Rating: 6.14 | Originally posted by Reverend J Shaft
Originally posted by JustinShapiro
On the old Raw two-week schedule of Monday live/Tuesday tape.
I'm guessing Bischoff probably won't have any problem with Cole/Lawler giving away results of the taped TNA program at the top of their broadcast (if TNA so chooses to overlap at all). He should really warn Dixie about that.
I know you jest but I'm betting Bischoff would be tickled pink any time TNA warrants a mention on WWE programming, whatever the reason. | Amos Cochran
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| #16 Posted on 28.1.10 1114.28 | Instant Rating: 6.53 | Keep on poking Vince with that sharp stick, TNA - sooner or later he's gonna rip your throat out. Amusing possibility: given the nature of his "per appearance" deal, WWE signs back Kennedy and throws him in the Rumble, just to mess with 'em.
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| #17 Posted on 28.1.10 1159.57 | Instant Rating: 4.05 | Except that Kennedy is persona non grata among the top stars (Cena, Orton, and I'm pretty sure HHH & HBK), so it is highly unlikely they bring back Kennedy any time soon, if ever.
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| #18 Posted on 28.1.10 1216.10 | Instant Rating: 8.42 | 
Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
Except that Kennedy is persona non grata among the top stars (Cena, Orton, and I'm pretty sure HHH & HBK)
I missed that story. What happened there?
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| #19 Posted on 28.1.10 1221.20 | Instant Rating: 2.91 | Originally posted by Amos Cochran
Keep on poking Vince with that sharp stick, TNA - sooner or later he's gonna rip your throat out. Amusing possibility: given the nature of his "per appearance" deal, WWE signs back Kennedy and throws him in the Rumble, just to mess with 'em.
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| #20 Posted on 28.1.10 1242.33 | Instant Rating: 7.59 | Originally posted by Wrestling Observer
Ken Anderson (aka Ken Holmes, and best known as Mr. Kennedy), 33, was fired by WWE on 5/29, just four days after his return from shoulder surgery in the ten-man tag team main event on Raw.
The decision was obviously not something planned out in advance, since Kennedy was being heavily advertised on the USA Network this week as “returning” for the 6/1 Raw show from Birmingham, plus, on his TV return, he had a face-to-face confrontation with Randy Orton that seemed to be building an upcoming title program. He was also coming off being the guy a WWE film, “Behind Enemy Lines: Colombia,” was promoted around. The whole idea of WWE films is to both make money, of course, by trying to get the wrestling audience to get the DVDs. But it’s also, when using a non-established superstar in the lead, the idea is the movie will increase the star power of wrestlers the company is looking at as long-term future headliners. After the ten-man on Raw ended, Orton went to Kennedy backstage, not very happy and told him in direct, adamant but not loud terms, to be more careful. Kennedy, in doing a back suplex, dropped Orton on his surgically repaired shoulder. There wasn’t a big blow-up or anything like that but everyone knew Orton wasn’t happy about it. Orton did momentarily lose it in the ring after taking the move, as he started punching the mat in frustration before rolling out of the ring. Orton and Kennedy have been very good friends in the past and often hung out together on the road. There were people after who congratulated Orton on not losing his cool on how he handled it.
Orton wasn’t seriously injured and worked a short dark cage match the next night with Batista, and then worked on top during the Mexico tour, although Show was carrying the action in the tag matches over the weekend. Orton was icing his shoulder after the match and Orton’s injury was considered more serious than Kennedy’s. He complained of a stiff neck at television the next day and was still icing his shoulder and getting massage therapy, and made comments about Kennedy being a careless worker but it was not any kind of a major piece of conversation at the Smackdown show.
Four days later, John Laurinaitis gave Kennedy the phone call, basically saying the boss (Vince) made the call, being nice about it and saying that hopefully in the future they could do business again.
Virtually everyone outside the inner circle was shocked, as wrestlers who found out about it after WWE put it in almost a hidden spot on its web site, were doing double-takes like it was nothing they expected. Those on the road didn’t even believe it at first. There was an assumption among many that Orton went to Vince and pushed the issue, but nobody seems to know if that is really the case. Even though there are star wrestlers who have been critical of performers that have gotten their pushes stopped fairly often, nobody can recall a situation where a star has gotten anyone directly fired since Kevin Nash got Nelson Frazier (Mabel/Big Daddy V/Viscera) fired in 1995. At the time, Nash was WWF champion and Frazier injured his ribs with a splash, coming off Frazier breaking Undertaker’s orbital bone, giving him the reputation of not being safe enough in the ring to risk top talent on. But this is not that case, as Vince was frequently on Kennedy’s case, and was unhappy with his promo earlier in the show, and the unhappy again when he dropped wrong, and it wasn’t Vince’s best week to begin with.
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The former Mr. Kennedy did yet another interview this week. Among the highlights was when he blamed John Cena and Randy Orton for getting him fired, implying that they were using their political clout to bury other wrestlers. Cena for sure went to management and said that Ken was unsafe and terrible to work with, and he wasn't the only one. WWE sources claim Orton didn't try to get him fired, though Orton, who used to be friends with Kennedy, did chew him out big time in front of everyone backstage after Kennedy gave him a back suplex and dropped him right on his previously injured collarbone. Kennedy tried to blow that one off claiming Orton jumped too hard. Well, you are supposed to go up for your opponent, and it's his job to put you down safely. The problem with Kennedy's claim, that Orton and Cena and others are using their clout to get guys fired, is that I cannot remember another time in the last decade that almost a half dozen guys all went to management and suggested a guy be fired. Not a single time. RVD used to get heat for being dangerous to work with from guys like Shawn, HHH, and Undertaker, but they never bandied together to try to get him fired. According to one source, Kennedy first got heat about a month after he was called up, around October 2005, where he was working as a team with Orton as his partner. They did an Orton & Kennedy & Bob Orton vs. Eddie Guerrero & Big Dave match, and at one point Kennedy was supposed to boot Eddie in the gut and he kicked him full on in the jaw, and Eddie was outraged about it to agents afterwards. There was another incident with Finlay where Kennedy punted him and Finlay just gave him a hard receipt. There was another incident during a Kennedy vs. Matt Hardy match where Kennedy "nearly decapitated" Matt with some spot on the ropes and Vince, watching on the headset, suddenly threw them onto the ground, turned red and started ranting and raving. Yet another incident during a DX vs. Kennedy & Umaga match when Kennedy screwed something up and Shawn and HHH pulled him into the Gorilla position afterwards and had a long talk with him. (Note the trend of having things happen with great workers like Eddie, HHH, Shawn, and Finlay.) After that, whenever Kennedy's name came up in agent meetings Hunter would start throwing in little jabs about him.
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