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- The recap for TNA Impact 7.4.2013, taped from Las Vegas, NV. I believe I got the episode number wrong last time, that is corrected now. Unrelatedly, I wonder if Karlos the Jackal still watches TNA (and indeed, bothers to read this).

- Last week, Austin Aries tricked his way into a World title shot, Samoa Joe joined the new Main Event Mafia, and the BFG series continued.

- We open with Austin Aries, who mentions that people have different reactions to him - some cheer, and some boo. Aries tells us that last year he won the X-Division Title, then cashed it in, and got himself a World Title shot. Aries plans to do that right now and challenge Bully Ray at Destination X. He calls out Hogan to make it official RIGHT NOW! This happens without much incident, but Hogan has a problem with the "sin" Aries committed, gimmick infringement. Aries: "I didn't steal anyone's gimmick, brother!" Hogan says there's a price to pay - he makes a three-way match for the X-Division title tonight between Aries, Chris Sabin, and Manic (not Suicide anymore, though in the same costume). That makes no sense. What about Option C? Sabin calls Aries "the greatest fraud," and promises to win his title back. Tenay calls this "the perfect plan," completely losing track of the larger picture. 0 for 1. What about the World Title shot? I think the idea is that if Aries retains his ill-gotten title in a legitimate way, then he gets to invoke Option C, but it didn't come off very well the way Hogan put it.

- Backstage, Christopher Daniels berates the disembodied interviewer for wanting comments from Kazarian about his match against AJ Styles. Kazarian doesn't care if it's the clean cut AJ or the "bearded, beaver, boy-band AJ," he's still going to beat him, win the Bound for Glory series, and get himself a title shot at the big show.

Match 1: BFG Series: Kazarian (0) v AJ Styles (2)
Bad Influence are out dressed as Siegfried and Roy, and promises to showcase magic, as Christopher Daniels "makes women's undergarments vanish with his hips" and the World Title magically appears around Kazarian's "delicious waist." AJ dominates him with a baseball slide and a hurricanrana, but misses the superman punch in the corner. Kaz tosses him three-fourths of the way across the ring on a monkey flip, and gets two off a dropkick. Kaz talks too much trash though, triggering an AJ comeback. Clotheslines lead to the springboard forearm smash for 2. Kazarian comes back with a jawbreaker and a huge front-end dropkick for 2. AJ wants the Calf Killer, but Kaz blocks it. It doesn't save him as AJ rolls into it almost immediately and Kaz taps in 4 minutes. 0 for 2. Impact Special right here. This match had no time to develop, and there was absolutely no work done on Kaz's leg that could've made that a believable finish.

- Chavo peps up Hernandez, telling him that the BFG series is not a sprint, but a marathon. He'll be in Hernandez's corner later tonight.

- Mickie James is out with a ladder set up in the middle of the ring. Mickie says one must crawl, scratch, and climb the ladder to be on top of the Knockouts Division. Mickie complains about not getting enough attention for beating Velvet Sky with pretty much her eyes closed; instead all the attention goes to the upcoming ladder match for the #1 contendership between Gail Kim and Taryn Terrell. Mickie has advice for them: "tear the house down, break a leg - in fact, break everything!" Mickie says the person winning that match will be on top of the ladder - but she will bring them down, breaking their face every rung of the way. Mickie promises to be the Knockouts Champion of the century. 1 for 3. Strong work from Mickie here. I can't remember the last time I've heard her cut an extended heel promo, but this was refreshing.

- The Gut Check panel deliberates over Ryan Howe and Ohriner. Ohriner gets cut on the spot, and Ryan will have his Gut Check in the ring later.

- The Main Event Mafia arrive, but Joe disappoints me by not wearing a white suit jacket. Kurt Angle promises to unveil a fourth member tonight. Tazz is appropriately worried about this development.

Match 2: BFG Series: Jay Bradley (0) v Hernandez (0)
Bradley is actually taller than Hernandez. Bradley takes over with a thumb to the eye and gets 2 from a top-rope curbstomp of sorts. Bradley grabs a chinlock, but Hernandez fights out, only to get dumped outside. Hernandez comes back with an outside-to-inside tope, and drops him with an overhead backbreaker for 2. Bradley cheats to take over again, but now Chavo distracts him long enough for Hernandez to just bowl him over for the pin in 3 minutes. 1 for 4. Nothing match.

- Aces and Eights discuss tonight's events, but Wes Brisco wants to know about Brooke. Bully cuts him off because Brooke is "personal business" and this is time for club business. Bully actually explains the situation better than the opening segment did - the winner tonight gets a title shot at Bound for Glory. Doc wants to know who Bully would want to face, but Anderson takes the opportunity to answer for him and kiss some ass. Bully has a better idea - what if no one wins? Anderson likes this so much that he spits out his beer. I'm pretty sure Garrett Bischoff caught the full force of that in the face.

Match 3: Non-title: BroMans (Robbie E and Jessie Godderz) v Gunner and James Storm
BroMans attack before the bell, taking it to Gunner. Some double team work leads to a quick cover, but it only gets one. Tara gets involved as well, choking Gunner out on the ropes. Gunner makes his own comeback and it's hot tag Storm, who cleans house. They do a nice double-team where they toss Godderz into Robbie, but BroMans briefly take over by gaining the numbers advantage. They try to steal a pin on an assisted sunset flip, but Storm stops that by kicking Robbie's head in. Irish Curse by Gunner sets up a sideslam/running neckbreaker combo, and that finishes in 3 minutes. 1 for 5. Total squash.

- Jeff Hardy talks about his upcoming match with Joseph Park. Hardy suspects Park has a little bit of the darkside in him, and he just wants to get in, get his points, and get out.

- The Main Event Mafia, sans Samoa Joe, make their way out. The crowd reacts for the first time tonight. Angle reiterates their goals from last week. Sting says the MEM suffered from unity issues due to everyone being World Champions, and so the new Mafia went after the "foundation of change," Samoa Joe. And now Joe joins the festivites, proclaiming that the Mafia runs the town tonight. Joe claims to have been a man of his own volition, but he's noticed the advantages of having numbers on his side. Joe promises to beat up the cowards in A&E, and promises to win the BFG Series and take his shot at Bully Ray. Angle says he's the one who picked Samoa Joe due to Joe being the toughest SOB he's ever been in the ring with. And when Joe suggested the new member, Angle thought it was a damn good idea. Angle says this man is not the future of TNA, but the here and now. He introduces Magnus, already decked out in his own suit jacket. Magnus's got a Hugh Jackman vibe going on today. Magnus says when opportunity knocks, you answer the door. He puts over the rest of the Mafia, and promises to put an end to the reign of terror of Aces and Eights. Sting promises that there will indeed be a winner in the main event tonight. 2 for 6. Magnus looked like he belonged in the spotlight there.

Match 4: BFG Series: Jeff Hardy (7) v Joseph Park (0)
They shake hands before we start, and Park gives him a clean break in the corner. Park nails a shoulderblock, but Hardy gets him with a kick to set up a corner splash. Park runs right into the Twist of Fate, but Hardy misses the Swanton Bomb, and now Park doesn't know what to do. He sends Hardy careening into the opposite corner and dominates, but he has no idea how to finish him. He crushes him in the corner and grabs a chinlock, but Hardy fights out and makes a comeback. Dropkick gets 2 for Hardy, but Park stops the Twist of Fate with a Samoan Drop. He heads to the top and comes down with a splash, but Hardy kicks out at 2. Blind charge misses, and Hardy catches him flush in the face with the Whisper in the Wind, causing blood. Park completely Hulks out, and is about unleash some righteous asskicking, but the unfortunate referee gets in his way and gets annihilated with the Black Hole Slam. Park snaps out of it just as this thing gets thrown out in about 8 minutes, giving Hardy a DQ win. 3 for 7. Park's character and facial expressions are absolutely perfect.

- Ryan Howe comes down for his Gut Check. JB asks Ryan if we saw his absolute best in the ring last week - and Ryan says we did. Well, if that was his best, he's gotta go. Al Snow says no, so Ryan gets 30 seconds to convince them and he says he showed heart. He is young and talented, apparently. That's good enough to convince Davis, who says yes. The crowd boos this. Pritchard's answer is no, so that's the end of the line for poor Skidmarks. The right decision in the end, based on last week's match.

- Backstage, Doc puts his own name forward for being VP of the Aces and Eights. What is this, beaurocracy in the A&E? Anderson takes offense to this, saying there's going to be a vote next week to decide. Bully gets on both their cases, saying that the focus needs to be on wiping out the MEM and not stabbing each other in the back. They head out to "watch" the main event.

- Gail Kim promises to win her ladder match against Taryn Terrell.

Match 5: X-Division Title: Austin Aries v Suicide Manic v Chris Sabin
Tazz correctly points out that Aries got screwed in this deal and acknowledges that he'd be the biggest threat to Bully Ray, but Tenay sticks up for Hogan's sense of right and wrong. Aces and Eights make their entrance as well. Sabin dominates both opponents to start, hitting Aries with the Hesitation Dropkick. Manic gets rolled up for 2 and Aries gets dumped as we seem to be doing the WWE formula today. Manic grabs a crucifix and rolls into a pin but Aries breaks it up. Sabin takes him out with a boot to the face, but Manic tricks him into a dive outside which misses. Aries evades Manic's inside-to-outside dropkick and hits Sabin with a missile dropkick to the head for 2. Aries takes it to him on the ramp and he wants the Brainbuster, but Sabin reverses to wipe them both out. A&E decide to get a closer look, but Suicide dives onto them, only to be caught and powerbombed by Doc. MEM (still dressed to the hilt) head out to put a stop to this, but we go to a commercial instead. Back from the break, Aries catches Sabin with a DVD on the apron! Sabin makes it back in at 9, and then kicks out at 2. The situation outside is neutralized by the MEM, and Manic is dead, so this is now one-on-one. Aries gets a pair of neckbreakers but stops to chat with Sting, who is on the apron for some reason. Sabin chops the crap out of him and snaps off an enzuigiri and a dropkick to the face for 2. Sabin stops the corner dropkick with a boot to the face but misses his own charge. Aries wants the Brainbuster, but Sabin rolls him up for 2. Hail Sabin is blocked but the Brainbuster gets only 2 for Aries! Aries locks the Last Chancery, but Sabin gets to the ropes. Aries misses off the top, but kicks out of the Hail Sabin at 2! Sabin wants more, but Aries turns his lights out with a roaring forearm. They slug it out and Aries has the upper hand. They head to the top, but Sabin wins that battle and brings him down with the Super Hail Sabin, and that finishes at about 16 minutes. 4 for 8. Excellent main event between these two guys, but I really don't get the logic of the outcome. Austin Aries is clearly a more credible threat to Bully Ray's title.

Wrestling Counter: 34 minutes.

A decent show by TNA, though it did not seem to be headed that way during the first hour. The quality picked up a lot in the second hour, aided by that excellent main event and the solid Hardy/Park match. Magnus made a lot of sense as the new MEM member, and he looked very comfortable in the spotlight. I must pick a bone with the whole Austin Aries storyline, though. I don't get how anyone could really see Chris Sabin as a more viable contender for the World championship (either storyline-wise or financially) than Austin Aries. And perhaps we'll still get the Aries-Bully match through shenanigans, but then there was no reason to take this ass-backwards way to get there.

(edited by used2bcool on 5.7.13 0942)
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A thousand and one GROANS for TNA pussying out of that Aries deal. They had a legit, credible threat with him and people were actually excited about him having that shot. You could have talked yourself into Aries possibly escaping with the title. There is ZERO chance Sabin wins, no matter how much they try and paint him as the ultimate underdog.

They made MAGNUS a member of the MEM? I like Magnus and all, but...come on...Jeff Hardy is RIGHT THERE! How many times does poor Matt Tracker have to point out how awesome Jeffrey "Nero" Hardy looks in a suit before anyone listens?



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by used2bcool
    Unrelatedly, I wonder if Karlos the Jackal still watches TNA (and indeed, bothers to read this).
I haven't watched in a long time and in fact dropped my cable, so except for YouTube clips here and there I probably won't think about watching again until Hogan leaves. I do keep up through dirtsheets and recaps, so thanks for doing these.

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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.83
    Originally posted by It's False
    They made MAGNUS a member of the MEM? I like Magnus and all, but...come on...Jeff Hardy is RIGHT THERE! How many times does poor Matt Tracker have to point out how awesome Jeffrey "Nero" Hardy looks in a suit before anyone listens?


My best friend from now on It's False is right about me being right. The very best thing corporate Jeff Hardy ever did was swanton a guy and straighten his tie as he rolled to his feet. That. Was. MAGNIFICENT.



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The Austin Aries thing has been super weird:

-The X division title shot is an effective way of keeping the heavyweight title busy during the BFG Series.
-BUT Aries is in the BFG Series! So he shouldn't be distracting from his Series activity by doing this.
-PLUS Aries is in the BFG Series! This act of desperation would have made much more sense if he wasn't in it.

The whole thing comes across as a slapdash storyline in the midst of what is usually a pretty well plotted out stretch of time. It's particularly slapdash since they didn't even expect to bring back Suicide in the first place.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.08
The Sabin & Austin Aries part of that match was awesome!

    Originally posted by It's False
    They made MAGNUS a member of the MEM? I like Magnus and all, but...come on...Jeff Hardy is RIGHT THERE! How many times does poor Matt Tracker have to point out how awesome Jeffrey "Nero" Hardy looks in a suit before anyone listens?
Magnus does look gorgeous in a suit. And Jeff Hardy would go broke paying to get the makeup stains out of his suit.
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    Originally posted by hansen9j
    The Austin Aries thing has been super weird:

    -The X division title shot is an effective way of keeping the heavyweight title busy during the BFG Series.
    -BUT Aries is in the BFG Series! So he shouldn't be distracting from his Series activity by doing this.
    -PLUS Aries is in the BFG Series! This act of desperation would have made much more sense if he wasn't in it.



I didn't see it as an act of desperation as much as an act of opportunism. Option C is a much faster and surer route to a title shot than winning the BFG Series, especially if you're Austin Aries, the longest reigning X division champion ever. I think this was a ham-handed way to try and get Sabin over as a threat, by having him win back the title in a grueling match and then probably have a really good showing against Bully before getting screwed (by either the Aces or a disgruntled Aries).




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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.79
    Originally posted by emma
    The Sabin & Austin Aries part of that match was awesome!

      Originally posted by It's False
      They made MAGNUS a member of the MEM? I like Magnus and all, but...come on...Jeff Hardy is RIGHT THERE! How many times does poor Matt Tracker have to point out how awesome Jeffrey "Nero" Hardy looks in a suit before anyone listens?
    Magnus does look gorgeous in a suit. And Jeff Hardy would go broke paying to get the makeup stains out of his suit.


That explains why Hardy only wore tie, Express shirt, and jeans. I like that Magnus is included in the new MEM and that he and Joe are reunited. I still want Joe in a white suit, maybe one of those tuxedos with the long flappy bit on the back like in Looney Tunes cartoons about the opera.



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Yeah, I'm pretty ecstatic to have Magnus in the MEM. If this whole angle achieves anything, then I want it to make Magnus a legitimate main event presence. Everyone who talks about Magnus talks about him as the future of the company, so this is a good place to start putting faith in him and put him in a high-profile storyline. Another person I wouldn't mind seeing in the MEM Version 2.0 is Bobby Roode. He fits the bill, and he isn't really doing anything. But I suppose they should stop at five.

I wonder where this all leaves Aries, though. If the Suicide fiasco was a vehicle to get Sabin over, Aries kind of got to look like a chump with a week-long title reign. I could imagine a storyline where he gets disgruntled and costs Sabin the title match at Destination X (like GodEatGod has mentioned), then flirts with heeldom as the A&E try desperately to recruit him, only to come out on the right side of things in the end. It could lead to some entertaining Bully Ray/Austin Aries promo work.

AJ Styles and Joseph Park seem to be on their own character arcs independent of who they interact with. In Park's case, it's very entertaining; in AJ's, not so much. Just let the man go out there and tear the house down every week for 10-15 minutes.
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.45
I wonder if maybe the whole thing was a test for Aries for the Hemme incident. Make him do a high profile job to a lower tier opponent and see how he handles it.
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    Originally posted by Scottyflamingo
    I wonder if maybe the whole thing was a test for Aries for the Hemme incident. Make him do a high profile job to a lower tier opponent and see how he handles it.


Oh they didn't like him thrusting his crotch in Hemme's face, did they? I didn't know if he'd gotten into hot water for that. I mean Hemme did screw up initially but he seemed to take it a step too far.
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