Originally posted by QuezzyAccording to Morley this was his decision because he wanted to work dates in Mexico that conflicted with their new Monday night schedule. So TNA did not put him over Daniels knowing he was going to be a two month rental.
Yeah, but they did put Morley over Daniels (and, perhaps more damningly, over Jeff Jarrett!) without insuring that he would be there longer than two months.
It's one of TNA's worst habits and one that I thought they had broken -- bringing guys in, not signing them to contracts, putting them over their own guys, and then watching them walk away. They did it with Test, Rikishi, Shannon Moore, and I'm sure a couple of others that I'm not remembering.
It's just silly.
I guess it depends on your perspective. What I think is silly is being a washed up has been that WWE kicked to the curb, going to TNA and taking a spot from a younger more talented wrestler, going over one of their most popular wrestlers (Daniels) and main eventers (Jarrett) and then repaying that company by leaving the company and making them look like idiots.
I don't know what TNA sees in guys like Morley, Rikishi and Test but clearly TNA liked them and if TNA likes them why wouldn't they push them right away? What good would it be to acquire someone you think is valuable and have them sit around doing nothing for 2 months and make them feel unappreciated and leave? I have a feeling if we were talking about Desmond Wolfe or D'Angelo Dinero instead of Morley, Rikishi or Test that most people wouldn't say it was stupid to push somebody that left after two months.
On the flip side you could say, well why didn't they sign Morley to a long deal if they like him so much? But then people would complain that Morley is signed to a long deal instead.
Originally posted by QuezzyOn the flip side you could say, well why didn't they sign Morley to a long deal if they like him so much? But then people would complain that Morley is signed to a long deal instead.
This is much much much worse. People did complain about Morley, and they had assumed that he would have been under contract. The thought being why wouldn't he be, it would be ridiculous to do that (again).
It is the policy of the documentary crew to remain true observers and not interfere with its subjects. "This topic is going to suck to read in three years." -Psycho Penguin "Well. Shit." -hansen9j
Originally posted by QuezzyI have a feeling if we were talking about Desmond Wolfe or D'Angelo Dinero instead of Morley, Rikishi or Test that most people wouldn't say it was stupid to push somebody that left after two months.
I think I might, actually. If Dinero -- right now -- turned out not to be under contract and went back to WWE? Eye-rolls would abound!
My point is, TNA shouldn't push anyone who isn't signed to a contract. The best option is not "sign Morley to a contract right away," it's "don't push Morley until we're ready to sign him to a contract."
You and I agree, I think, that the end results make TNA -- not whatever wrestler is in question -- look bad. Since TNA is the party that ends up looking dumb, it's their responsibility to ensure this sort of thing doesn't happen.
(Keep in mind that I say all this as someone completely ignorant of how the business actually works.)
(edited by Karlos the Jackal on 6.3.10 1248) Last 5 movies seen: 40 Pounds of Trouble ***1/2 - Alice in Wonderland (1933) **1/2 - Where the Wild Things Are *** - The Informant! **** - Sherlock Jr. ****
Originally posted by It's FalseHalf-assed results:
-AJ Styles and Ric Flair cut a promo. They're interrupted by Hulk Hogan and Abyss. Hogan tosses around Viagra jokes, because the age thing just isn't glaring enough. They build hype for Hogan and Flair getting in the ring again. Flair says he's never beaten Hulk on national television. That CAN'T be true, can it? In 15 years? Man, that's sad if it is. Eric Bischoff comes out and makes a Four Corners match for the title tonight with AJ, Abyss, Desmond Wolfe, and D'Angelo Dinero.
-(edited by It's False on 4.3.10 2336)
He pinned Hogan on Nitro back in early 96 thanks to Elizabeth's high heeled shoe. Arn Anderson beat Hogan twice in 1996 once by Dq and even pinned him thanks to Elizabeth's high heels. Poor Savage never pinned Hogan all those years they feuded. I recall The WWE spoofing that when they had The Huckster and The Nacho Man stuff.
Flair defeated Hogan at WCW Uncensored 1999 in a First Blood cage match to win the WCW World Title. (Despite the fact that Flair bled first, and Hogan was pinned... yeah, that was WCW.)
(edited by ekedolphin on 6.3.10 0308) That was on a ppv not National TV. Flair made mention that he never beat Hogan on national television(which he did though)
Vince McMahon is laughing all the way to the bank because he wont even have to buy out TNA as potential competition because Hogan and Bischoff are tanking the company themselves. The latest ratings show hour 1 doing a 1.3 with hour 2 divng to .9 going into their "takeover" of Monday nights. At this point I can only assume that either Hulk and Bisch actually work for WWE or Dixie Carter's business plan is to drive the company strait to the grave so she can declare personal bankurpcy. As much as I'm convinced Vince hates wrestling fans, he strings us along just enough to keep watching. Seeing the Downward spiral of TNA is becoming morbid and i'm sad for all the people who will be out of jobs when they fold up shop (except Russo of course.)
Apologies for resurrecting a thread after the following show has already aired for most of you, but i've been falling behind a bit. I'd just like to add that Desmond Wolfe is one of the best promo artists on TV at the moment and i'd like to transcribe this for posterity, even if my nationality does cause a certain bias towards someone who channels Guy Ritchie every so often.
"JB, you ever look in your pocket and find a fiver you forgot you had? Course you didn’t; the only thing you find when you look in your pocket is that wizened old savaloy and a couple of scotch eggs that look the same now as when you used to scare the other kids in kindergarten, 2 weeks ago. I believe people call it Serendipity, or to paraphrase from the sound of music: When God closes a door he opens a window. Now I say bollocks to that. I say someone closes a door in my face, I kick it down. I sit in the kitchen, put on a cuppa, tell the bird to go upstairs and close that window cos it’s a little breezy. I’ve never made any bones about the fact that I’ll do whatever it takes to win a match and tonight with the TNA Championship on the line just consider me even more motivated. Now i’m not gonna take anything away from AJ Styles, who now with Ric Flair by his side, much in the vein of Ed ‘Strangler’ Lewis and Lou Thesz, is a model champion. But Ric, you were famous for saying “To be the man, you afta beat the man”, and in TNA, AJ Styles you are the man to beat to be the man, but tonight I don’t need the beat the man to be the man because I can beat that windowlicker Abyss or that dirty chav ‘Poop’ Dinero and leave with the championship gold."
I remember WIZARD doing a big thing on Sentry and how amazing it was that they had found this missing character, and then 2 months later doing another one one how Joe Quesada and Marvel had fooled everyone...