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We open with a man, alone, in the ring in a darkened arena. There is a spotlight on him. He is holding an acoustic guitar. It's...Eric Bischoff -- and he plays us some flamenco music. That might be the oddest opening to a wrestling show so far this millennium.

Bischoff doesn't like Jeff Jarrett because JJ uses a guitar as a prop -- can he even play the guitar? Probably not! Jeff comes out to refute -- but doesn't attempt to play anything. I can't believe that in all this time JJ hasn't even had the curiosity to learn a few chords. Jarrett threatens to El Kabong Bischoff, but leaves instead. Bischoff mocks him and brings up JJ's daughters -- that's enough to bring Jeff back into the ring and KABONG -- the guitar EXPLODES and Eric is out cold.

In back, Mick Foley is pleased and he and Jeff share a moment. Easy E finally get up and makes a match for tonight between Jarrett and Foley (who shaved Eric's head, remember?) -- whoever loses is FIRED.

The Beautiful People & Daffney vs. Tara, Angelina Love, Sarita & Taylor Wilde: Daff still has the kidnapped Poison. This is kind of a formless mess -- like the KO division as a whole right now -- until the "stream of finishers" climax, and even that is kinda weird, 'cause, like, who knows what Velvet Sky's finisher even is?

For the record, it goes: Angelina Love with the Lights Out to Daffney; Velvet Sky, DDT to Love; Taylor Wilde, Northern Lights suplex to Sky; Madison Rayne, snapmare setup into a face to the knee on Wilde; Sarita, tiger bomb to Rayne; Lacey Von Erich, chokeslam to Sarita; Tara, Widow's Peak to Von Erich; and by now Daff's recovered and hits the LOBOTOMY (Saturn's gredunza) on Tara for the pin!

I did enjoy the endless conga line of finishers, I have to say.

Hulk Hogan and his pet monster, Abyss, are in the ring. FFWD, but they tell us later that Hogan sets up Team Abyss taking on Team Sting at Lockdown. Heels try a beatdown but D'Angelo Dinero hit the ring for the save and Abyss, Hogan, and the Pope all pose.

Rob Terry vs. Tomko: Title match for the Global championship which Tomko earned by...I dunno, showing up? Anyway, SQUAAAAASH CITYYYYY. Terry picks up an easy victory with the spin kick and spinebuster.

Mick Foley vs. Jeff Jarrett: Loser leaves town match; Beer Money are the special refs, one inside, one outside. Foley and JJ shake hands to start. Pretty dull match enlivened only by Beer Money's jovial enthusiasm for making all the ref gestures and stuff. Bischoff is at the broadcast table; he doesn't care who wins -- the loser's fired and he'll make the winner miserable.

After some back-and-forth involving Mr. Socko, Jarrett finally puts Foley away with The Stroke on a steel chair. Foley and Jarrett share a bittersweet celebration/farewell in the ring and Foley shambles away up the ramp.

Beer Money beatdown JJ after the match until Jeff Hardy and Rob Van Dam run in for the save; this sets up a match for later tonight.

Foley leaves the Impact Zone with various faces wishing him well. Bubba the Love Sponge shows up and I FFWD -- Foley cracks Bubba in the head on his way out, while, I assume, telling him "THIS IS FOR HAITI."

Hogan tells Bischoff to treat Jarrett like it's business and not personal, because Jeff is really over with the audience -- they love him! They can't get enough!

Matt Morgan vs. Hernandez: Hernandez attacks Morgan from behind during Morgan's entrance because...he's a face? TOTAL beatdown on Morgan for most of the match -- including Morgan begging on his knees -- until, while on the outside, Hernandez accidentally clotheslines the corner post. This allows Morgan to hit the Carbon Footprint -- DRIVING HERNANDEZ'S HEAD INTO THE POST. Well, not really, I assume, but it LOOKED great.

Announcers go into serious mode -- Taz even removes his sunglasses! -- and the medics show up and stretcher Hernandez out. I've heard that Hernandez is going to Mexico for a while, so maybe this is a write-out.

Beer Money vs. Jeff Hardy and RVD: Slow to start but it REALLY picked up as it went on and ended up being a really solid match. After James Storm takes a ladder to the face on the outside, Robert Roode eats a Rolling Thunder, Swanton Bomb, and 5-Star Frog Splash in quick succession to give Hardy and RVD (HarVD?) the win. Good match!

Eric Young anticlimactically jumps into the ring to announce that next week, he's teaming up with Hardy and RVD to take on The Band -- Waltman, Hall, and Nash.

Show started weird, sagged in the middle, and ended pretty strong, I thought. You?

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I actually like the idea of an RVD/Jeff Hardy team while they sort out the mess in the upper card. An extended feud with Beer Money could have been a lot of fun, but this being the New WCW, they blew that wad right out the gate.

What a long, strange fall it's been for poor Hernandez. From management's favorite to unceremoniously dumped. Now I guess the door's open for Morgan to get a new partner. Or, this being an Eric Bischoff product, the tag titles can just go by the wayside entirely.

No Angle, no Anderson, no Desmond Wolfe, no Doug Williams. I'm assuming Samoa Joe dropped off the face of the planet at this point. A part of me wonders if TNA's purposely keeping a bunch of these guys off their shows to make a convoluted case for going to three hours. But that'd be silly.

Next week: Scott Hall, Sean Waltman, Jeff Hardy, and Rob Van Dam are all in one match. Losers get sent to rehab?

(edited by It's False on 23.3.10 0250)



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.41
Much better show as a standalone episode. Less Hogan, good main event, even Foley/Jarrett was better than it had any right to be. I'm guessing that the Lockdown teams end up looking something like Sting/Wolfe/The Band Vs. Abyss/Hardy/RVD/Eric Young/Cactus Jack. Long-term the company is still screwed, but if they can not fuck up the booking too much in the interim, Lockdown could be a good show - the Lethal Lockdown cage is a great gimmick for hiding weaknesses.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.77
    Originally posted by Karlos the Jackal
    Beer Money vs. Jeff Hardy and RVD: Slow to start but it REALLY picked up as it went on and ended up being a really solid match. After James Storm takes a ladder to the face on the outside, Robert Roode eats a Rolling Thunder, Swanton Bomb, and 5-Star Frog Splash in quick succession to give Hardy and RVD (HarVD?) the win. Good match!

    Eric Young anticlimactically jumps into the ring to announce that next week, he's teaming up with Hardy and RVD to take on The Band -- Waltman, Hall, and Nash.

    Show started weird, sagged in the middle, and ended pretty strong, I thought. You?



Only flipped over a few times as the Bischoff/Jarrett "confrontation" immediately let me know I should be watching Shawn over on RAW. I realize I'm a broken record in that I don't watch the prodcut all that much, but throwing Beer Money vs. RVD and Hardy out there to (I assume) try and pop a rating seems like a waste in that they took what I believe to be 4 of their best actual in ring performers and gave away a very good match on tv for free vs. trying to build for a PPV matchup but instead to build to a match against the lapBand next week. Hmmm.

Of course, if the end up doing a classic TLC type match on PPV in the future because of what started here, then it further indicates why I don't write for these shows.

It did, however, keep me from watching the Batista/Cena showdown on RAW because I knew I'd get to read the excellent recap of the talking that went down right here on the W so I guess it worked in that regard. Not sure that I'd ever get to the point where I'd be paying for one of their PPVs though. Too much other crap to deal with.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.44
Beginning the show with Eric doing his best Johnny Cash was weird. I don't think that popped the rating, but it did lead to a really good storyline this week. I actually was watching more Impact then Raw which is sad considering WWE usually pulls out all the stops to get you to buy Mania. Yet, considering the card, how can you buy or at least stream Mania this year? I think TNA proved to me they can book correctly when forced to. EY coming in at the end was akward and really the only truly WTF? moment of the show. Considering how bad this show has been in the last few weeks, I will overlook it.

I disagree with the idea of keeping some of these money matches on PPV. RVD/Jeff need to wrestle, they are not promo guys even though both did good on the mic tonight. Wrestling is their greatest strength and putting them against jobbers isn't going to do anyone any favors. TNA is worried more about ratings then buys which I don't agree with, but they are trying to create a ratings war, so you have to give out big matches. Beer Money is as good as any opponent as you can get for them and all of them looked good tonight. The tag team of RVD/Hardy is not where the money is at for these two its in the singles division.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.40
    Originally posted by Karlos the Jackal
    After James Storm takes a ladder to the face on the outside, Robert Roode eats a Rolling Thunder, Swanton Bomb, and 5-Star Frog Splash in quick succession to give Hardy and RVD (HarVD?) the win. Good match!


    (edited by Karlos the Jackal on 23.3.10 0245)



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.88
Entertaining show imo. The Main Event was a tremendous Match that got plenty of time. Jarrett Vs Foley was better than I expected it to be and they did a good enough job covering up Foley's lack of mobility. . I can't recall a time in Angle's three plus years in TNA where he wasn't on the show and I don't think he was even mentioned. One night after they made all kinds of comments about How big a part of TNA the X Division is and everything there was no sign or mention of any of The X division(besides for cameos by Homicide and Moore) guys or mention of the matches the night before. Where was Wolfe? Still stuck in the hole? TNA continues to give everything away for free. I'm guessing that the Lethal Lockdown Match will be Abyss, Rvd , Hardy and Jarrett Vs Beer Money, Sting and Wolfe.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.43
Not a bad show by any means... The slow boil to Bischoff vs. Hogan has been really well done, even though the payoff has GOTTA be at Lethal Lockdown considering what the main event teams look like. I liked the cold open, it got my interest piqued. And I agree that RVD/Hardy vs. Beer Money would have been a nice extended feud. But I guess they're needed elsewhere. Which leaves Beer Money against... Jarrett?

Holy crap, I know a lot of people have mentioned before that Tomko gained a lot of weight, but... wow. He looked sluggish, and I felt bad for Terry having to lug his ass around. What happened to him? He was main eventing for a while, and now he's jobbing in a squash for a third-rate title.

Foley's "retirement" thing was ridiculous. We all know he's going nowhere, but leave it to the TNA "cast members" to suspend their disbelief and look like idiots in the process.

The Hernandez boot looked absolutely vicious. But I wish they would have taken a less-is-more approach with how they sold it. Going to break abruptly was fine, but pointing out how OMG THIS MUST BE LEGIT BECAUSE HOMICIDE HATES HIM IN KAYFABE BUT THEY'RE BFFS IN REAL LIFE SO HE CARES was beating it to death. Let him come out, sure, but it would have seemed more real if they didn't acknowledge it.

And then, having Taz say that he knows Hernandez's family is watching, so this must be hard for them... but then following that with explaining how since he got kicked in the head, maybe there'll even be brain damage... ugh. If he really got hurt, Taz would've been wanting to lessen the trauma for his family, not increase it by suggesting he'd become a vegetable.

Then, finally, during the main event directly after the Hernandez thing, they announce that next week Daffney and Tara will be in a First Blood match and act like it's gonna be great. After someone just got stretchered out of the building! If the Hernandez thing was supposed to be played as if it was real, insensitively announcing that "hey, there's more where THAT came from next week" cracks me up.

I know I'm nitpicking, but these types of "real injury" angles just aggravate me. There's no need for them at all.

And had RVD and Jeff Hardy not spontaneously challenged Beer Money to a tag match, our main event would have been... the totally unhyped Matt Morgan vs. Hernandez? Come ON. At least have another match-up in place, promote it as if it's the main event, and then act like the impromptu challenge really mixed things up.

I guess I just wish that pro wrestling relied less on established conventions and tried some new approaches. TNA has such an opportunity to present it as a different product than the WWE, but instead they're just stuck in a rut of re-hashing the past.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.17
Foley's "retirement" thing was ridiculous. We all know he's going nowhere, but leave it to the TNA "cast members" to suspend their disbelief and look like idiots in the process.

Weird how suspension of disbelief used to be the staple of watching wresting. Then again, Foley called me an asshole for caring the first time he retired, so maybe Russo is right to swerve believing and caring into idiocy

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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.45
    Originally posted by graves9
    Entertaining show imo. The Main Event was a tremendous Match that got plenty of time. Jarrett Vs Foley was better than I expected it to be and they did a good enough job covering up Foley's lack of mobility. . I can't recall a time in Angle's three plus years in TNA where he wasn't on the show and I don't think he was even mentioned. One night after they made all kinds of comments about How big a part of TNA the X Division is and everything there was no sign or mention of any of The X division(besides for cameos by Homicide and Moore) guys or mention of the matches the night before. Where was Wolfe? Still stuck in the hole? TNA continues to give everything away for free. I'm guessing that the Lethal Lockdown Match will be Abyss, Rvd , Hardy and Jarrett Vs Beer Money, Sting and Wolfe.


I guess TNA didn't royally screw up any booking this week and the last two matches were good, but it just seemed like a totally anticlimactic post-ppv show for all of these reasons. No Angle? No Anderson (not that I want to see him but still)? MCMG get a video package after becoming number one contenders? No Doug Williams? No mention of Kaz once? Pope has a title match and we see him for 10 seconds? No Wolfe? Again, not that I want to see them, but no appearance of The Band after they've been pushed the moon and made a big deal about them getting a contract? Only half of Sunday's winners showed up for Impact (and Rob Terry's match probably shouldn't even count). If you watched this Impact without seeing results of the PPV then all you would really know about the PPV is that Abyss beat up Styles, Morgan attacked Hernandez and Daffney stole Tara's spider.

Maybe I should be happy that it wasn't as much crash TV this week, but I think they went to the opposite extreme and didn't have enough in this show. Maybe I'm wrong though. Maybe it's just the guys they focused on. Maybe if Wolfe and Pope get the time that Jarrett and Foley got then it would be a great show.



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.42
Read it and weep, fella


Slightly off-topic, but Foley was on the Daily Show Friday (I DVR'd the replay yesterday):



Something about how congress/politics is fake like pro-wrestling, then Foley cut dueling promos, flip-flopping on an issue to show how doing so keeps your base motivated, or something.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.43
    Originally posted by RYDER FAKIN
    Foley's "retirement" thing was ridiculous. We all know he's going nowhere, but leave it to the TNA "cast members" to suspend their disbelief and look like idiots in the process.

    Weird how suspension of disbelief used to be the staple of watching wresting. Then again, Foley called me an asshole for caring the first time he retired, so maybe Russo is right to swerve believing and caring into idiocy

    FLEA


I was referring mostly to the "Thank You Mick" chants. In a situation like Flair's retirement, where it was obvious at the time that he'd be done, it was a nice gesture and highly motivated. But in a situation where Foley gets "retired" in a non-hyped match on Impact against Jeff Jarrett, it feels almost wrong.
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.39
    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
    Slightly off-topic, but Foley was on the Daily Show Friday (I DVR'd the replay yesterday):

    Something about how congress/politics is fake like pro-wrestling, then Foley cut dueling promos, flip-flopping on an issue to show how doing so keeps your base motivated, or something.

Foley had previously been on in November about a story about a 10-year-old boy in Arkansas who refused to say the pledge of allegiance because he felt it was unfair that gays didn't have the same rights that straight people have.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/12/10-year-old-wont-pledge-a_n_355709.html

He (Foley) must have some relationship with someone on The Daily Show staff.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/videos/?term=Mick+Foley&start=0

His first appearance is archived under the "WWF" tag, which was obviously doubly wrong. The latest one is marked only "wrestling".
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.74
So who comes back first: Dude Love or Cactus jack?



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.43
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
    So who comes back first: Dude Love or Cactus jack?


Does Foley own the rights to the Dude Love character or does WWE? I know he created it, but that doesn't always equal ownership in the world of intellectual properties... Just wondering.
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Daffney might not be the best, but she is the most entertaining woman's wrestler out there right now.

    Originally posted by GameCrazy
    Holy crap, I know a lot of people have mentioned before that Tomko gained a lot of weight, but... wow. He looked sluggish, and I felt bad for Terry having to lug his ass around. What happened to him? He was main eventing for a while, and now he's jobbing in a squash for a third-rate title.



It's been awhile since I've seen Tomko too and was pretty surprised to see how much he let himself go in a year or so. Terry is ridiculous looking, seeing a guy that jacked up is just insane. Not to mention he holds one of the dumbest titles created.

I'm enjoying the Bischoff feuds a lot more than the Hogan feuds right now. Eric might be a dick behind the scenes, but I love his on air character when he's feeling it and he seems to be really feeling it right now. One could almost argue that Raw was more entertaining when he was the regular GM.

I never quite understood the TNA love affair with Hernandez and I have no problem with them going with Morgan who is just a stronger character. His announce work a couple of weeks ago for the Hernandez/Jarrett tag match did more to get this feud over than any guest announce spot has done in a long time.

Are Samoa Joe and Kurt Angle on the outs with TNA? The roster is way to bloated, but these were TNA's two biggest names just a little while ago.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    Are Samoa Joe and Kurt Angle on the outs with TNA? The roster is way to bloated, but these were TNA's two biggest names just a little while ago.
Bloated is right. Their roster is TWICE the size of either Raw or Smackdown's -- they've got almost 60 active wrestlers on the roster! It's crazy! (This includes wrestlers that haven't been seen since the takeover, though, like Lethal Consequences.)

There's just no room for everyone, so a lot of guys show up every other week -- big names, that is -- plenty of lesser names show up even less (Rhino, for instance). If we weren't wondering where Angle, Anderson, and Wolfe were, we'd be wondering where Jarrett and Beer Money were. (I guess no matter what, we'd be wondering where Samoa Joe is.) I think as ubiquitous as Angle is, it's a little premature to wonder if he's in the doghouse after a one-show absence.

I hope Foley doesn't come back for a while at least. I can't work up the interest in seeing him wrestle anymore and there are already 30-some authority figures. I just don't know what they could do with him right now.

    Originally posted by It's False
    I actually like the idea of an RVD/Jeff Hardy team while they sort out the mess in the upper card. An extended feud with Beer Money could have been a lot of fun, but this being the New WCW, they blew that wad right out the gate.
I don't disagree with you, but if we assume that there's no plan in the mid-term booking for this anyway, then I have no problem with them doing it right now. It's not like it's an OMG DREAM MATCH -- it never crossed my mind until they made the match -- it's not the kind of thing where I thought, "oh, they blew the first-ever meeting" or anything.

And, I mean, who knows where these guys will be six months from now? They're here, right now -- let's take the opportunity and have a good match while we have the chance! If they want to have a feud later on, they can do that, and it'll be fresh again by the time they get around to it.

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Was Bischoff any good playing the guitar?




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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.73
    Originally posted by Oliver
    Was Bischoff any good playing the guitar?

A lot of people seem to think it wasn't him playing; but yeah, I really dug the song actually.
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    Originally posted by geemoney
      Originally posted by Oliver
      Was Bischoff any good playing the guitar?

    A lot of people seem to think it wasn't him playing; but yeah, I really dug the song actually.



I didn't think it was him actually playing. They showed a closeup of his hands, then a tight shot of his face (making a cheesy guitar face). Repeat. I believe there was a long shot but you couldn't tell from that. There was never a a tight shot of him playing showing hands and face.
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