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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.30
    Originally posted by kentish
    Perhaps too much is being made out of why four men were riding together in a Hummer?


On that note, when Tazzz (or it might have been Tenay) expressed shock that they let Abyss be the driver, I can't have been the only person to immediately think "He's probably the only one without a driving ban".
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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by 2P4E
    I can't have been the only person to immediately think "He's probably the only one without a driving ban".
Ha! I give thumbs up to you, sir.

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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.84
    Originally posted by GameCrazy

    The fact they're making it seem like a GOOD thing to give away a match like that on Impact, and a one-up on WWE's programming, seems to me like they're too focused on the immediate battle and not the long-term war. Throwing a match like that out there right away when Hardy has only been around for two shows is counter-productive to a strategy that could ultimately give the competition a run for their money.



I think this has been Vince Russo's modus operandi for some time now - he tends to focus on the TV show ratings than the PPV buyrates. And I agree with you, it is short-term thinking, but crash TV is what brought him to the dance, so you can maybe understand why he keeps doing it.



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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by used2bcool
    I think this has been Vince Russo's modus operandi for some time now - he tends to focus on the TV show ratings than the PPV buyrates. And I agree with you, it is short-term thinking, but crash TV is what brought him to the dance, so you can maybe understand why he keeps doing it.
u2bc! Where have you been for the last six months?

One of the regular columnists over at 411 has made the claim that TNA's business model depends more on TV ratings than PPV buys, but I don't remember who it was or what exactly he said or if it seemed credible.

I'll go look around and see if I can find it.

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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
This has been a running WON/F4 point for the last few months; most of TNA's PPVs are purchased by too few people to turn a profit. It's to the point where they really ought to be running 4-6 less PPVs to save money, but they're under a contract to deliver so many PPVs to the PPV companies, and running a PPV a month is a status thing.

They really don't make money on TV either - especially going live with all the guys they signed - but I believe Russo's contract has performance benefits tied to ratings, so that's what happens.



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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.84
    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    This has been a running WON/F4 point for the last few months; most of TNA's PPVs are purchased by too few people to turn a profit. It's to the point where they really ought to be running 4-6 less PPVs to save money, but they're under a contract to deliver so many PPVs to the PPV companies, and running a PPV a month is a status thing.

    They really don't make money on TV either - especially going live with all the guys they signed - but I believe Russo's contract has performance benefits tied to ratings, so that's what happens.


I think they have been turning profits for the last couple of years - moderate profits. Where are they getting the money from, if they're not covering costs in either PPVs or TV? Or is that a trend reversal this year, what with all the money they must've shelled out to get the likes of Flair, Hogan, etc.?



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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.50
    Originally posted by used2bcool

    Where are they getting the money from, if they're not covering costs in either PPVs or TV?


My guess is their parent company, Panda Energy International.



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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.89
    Originally posted by used2bcool
      Originally posted by thecubsfan
      This has been a running WON/F4 point for the last few months; most of TNA's PPVs are purchased by too few people to turn a profit. It's to the point where they really ought to be running 4-6 less PPVs to save money, but they're under a contract to deliver so many PPVs to the PPV companies, and running a PPV a month is a status thing.

      They really don't make money on TV either - especially going live with all the guys they signed - but I believe Russo's contract has performance benefits tied to ratings, so that's what happens.


    I think they have been turning profits for the last couple of years - moderate profits. Where are they getting the money from, if they're not covering costs in either PPVs or TV? Or is that a trend reversal this year, what with all the money they must've shelled out to get the likes of Flair, Hogan, etc.?
They were also decently successful at house shows, particularly at the end when people paid $20 to have their picture taken with Kurt Angle.



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by Zeruel
      Originally posted by used2bcool

      Where are they getting the money from, if they're not covering costs in either PPVs or TV?


    My guess is their parent company, Panda Energy International.
I've heard for a while that TNA's turning a profit and paying Panda back -- I dunno if that's still the case after the outlay for Hogan, Monday nights, etc.

Apparently (again, according to dirtsheets) they get a fair amount of cash from selling Impact to overseas markets.

    Originally posted by hansen9j
    They were also decently successful at house shows, particularly at the end when people paid $20 to have their picture taken with Kurt Angle.
I wish Angle was on the house show I saw -- I got my pic taken with Team 3D instead.

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