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OMG IT'S A RUSSO CHRISTMAS -- Nothing but gimmick matches tonight!

Interspersed throughout are "Christmas Party" segments with a party hosted by Eric Young, who thinks that Santa's arrival is imminent. These segments -- unlike TNA's usual backstage segments -- are shot with multiple cameras to give them the look of a sitcom. Let's just say that they probably shouldn't be inviting this comparison, as it's not a very favorable one.

The first party segment features Phi Delta Slam (!) but they are dressed in overalls and are Eric Young's cousins now. Oh, and Bushwhacker Luke (!! and ?) is here as well.

LAX, Scott Steiner and Booker T vs. The Rock-n-Rave Infection, Robert Roode and James Storm: This is a CHRISTMAS CHAOS IN THE CAGE match -- it's a Six Sides of Steel match but there are white Christmas lights on the cage (it actually looks pretty neat). To short to really be too eventful. Craziest spot was Hernandez Cracker Jacking (overhead choke tossing) Jimmy Rave head-first into the cage. Booker T pins Rave with the Bookend. Waste of a nice-looking setup -- Steiner never even got in the match.

Party: Angelina Love and Velvet Sky turn up. It turns out that their names -- which some have derided as "porny" -- are not an accident, as they offer to "service" the guests. ODB and Kong show up as well.

3D and Johnny Devine -- dressed up as two Santas and an elf -- bring out little person versions of Motorcity Machine Guns and Black Machismo and I accidentally FFWd through this.

3D & Johnny Devine vs. MMG & Jay Lethal (the real ones): This is a DOUBLE NORTH POLE match. There are two poles, each one with a match stipulation attached. The stipulation that's pulled down determines the match type between these six guys at Final Resolution. Okay: the pole that's in 3D's corner has the "Ultimate X" stip, while the pole in MMG's corner has the "Plate Glass Tables" (!!!) stip. This means that the stip that each team would prefer is on the pole in the opposite teams corner, and the two guys on the apron can defend the pole against the other team.

Now, it took me forever to explain that, but it makes sense quickly when you can actually see it, and I think it's a pretty clever setup -- I don't think I've ever seen it before. It's a pretty good match until, eventually, the little people start running around and then eh. Shelley grabs the "Ultimate X" stip for the win. This angle is, I think, going really well, in spite of all my predictions.

More party. Kong takes out Phi Delta Slam, so if they are coming back, they've got a ready-made feud! And here's Kevin Nash, too!

More party. Karen and Kurt Angle are here. Kurt tries to explain to Eric Young that Santa Claus is not real -- "like Shrek." Young: "Santa Claus and Shrek are the same person?"

Awesome Kong vs. Gail Kim vs. ODB vs. Miss Brooks vs. Christy Hemme vs. Roxxi Laveaux vs. Angelina Love vs. Velvet Sky vs. Jackie Moore: This is a SANTA'S WORKSHOP KNOCKOUT STREET FIGHT match. There's a toy box in the ring with toys in it for them to hit each other with. I have no idea what the rules were -- after Kong, Kim (fighting each other) and ODB (knocked out by Sky and Love) left the ring, Tenay and West said that there were only 6 competitors left, making me think this was a battle royal -- but then Kong came back and pinned Hemme. So, yeah, no idea. This was a GODAWFUL MESS. Crowd LOVES ODB.

Party time: Matt Morgan is here. Chris Harris is here. "Which present is mine? The big one?" Young: "That's mine." Harris: "That one?" Young: "They're all mine." Harris is upset because Christmas is Harris's birthday, as well -- who else has a birthday on Christmas? Young: "J.C.?" Harris: "Jim Cornette?"

MMG arrive, still with the little people. SoCal Val is here -- with mistletoe! Lethal is intrigued, but Sonjay Dutt swoops in for SoCal's smooch.

Samoa Joe is backstage, pissed that the cost of the Xmas party isn't going to supplement his contract instead, and that the time isn't going towards showing wrestling.

Rellik vs. Shark Boy vs. Abyss vs. Black Reign: This is a SILENT NIGHT BLOODY NIGHT match with a barbed-wire Christmas tree and weapons in wrapping paper. I come out of FFWding through the commercials in the the middle of Rellik's entrance just in time to here Tenay say, "It's 'Killer' spelled backwards!" Oh MAN it's a good thing I came in when I did -- otherwise I never would have know.

Shark Boy is covered in bandages. The Christmas tree in actually hanging from a chain. Black Reign takes the WORST BARBED WIRE CHRISTMAS TREE BUMP I have EVER seen. Golf club. Tacks. Glass. Lights go out -- JUDAS MESIAS IS HERE and I DO like his blood-spitting entrance. STRAIGHT TO HELL on Abyss FACE FIRST INTO THE TACKS. I swear,Abyss's entrance should be him going face first into tacks -- just get it over with. Rellik hits Shark Boy with a Jackhammer -- excuse me, the Demon Driver (how does Tenay know what it's called?) -- and RELLIK WINS RELLIK WINS RELLIK WINS!

I honestly thought Shark Boy was going to roll up Rellik for the pin. Up is down! Black is white!

Samoa Joe shows up to the party, complains, and trashes the joint.

Eric Young is sitting on the floor, sad, BUT THEN SANTA SHOWS UP. YES. SANTA. HE IS REAL.

Kaz vs. AJ Styles: This is a GRAB THE REINDEER match. There is a Reindeer head hanging above the ring! First person to grab it wins, and the loser has to wear a reindeer suit! This had some pretty cool ladder stuff in it, including a spot where a ladder is outside the ring, leaning against the apron, and Styles was suplexed over the ropes onto the ladder -- crossways on his back. That looked really painful. Styles later does a REALLY NICE backflip off another ladder, catching Kaz in a reverse DDT.

This would have been a great PPV match -- more time would give them more of a chance to build up to and sell things like BEING SUPLEXED OVER THE ROPES BACK FIRST ACROSS A LADDER (Styles sells it in this match by occasionally gingerly touching his back). I really think it's incredibly disrespectful to Styles and Kaz -- for them to do stuff like this in a throwaway, non-hyped, no-reason match that culminates in the wearing of a reindeer suit.

Kaz wins, of course -- wearing silly outfits is quickly becoming Styles's new gimmick. Kurt Angle comes out and sends the sad reindeer away, telling him to repeat "I AM NOT A REINDEER" one thousand times.

Eric Young and THE REAL SANTA CLAUS come out -- Angle i having none of this and he CLOTHESLINES SANTA AND PUTS HIM IN THE ANKLE LOCK. The thing that makes this AWESOME is they cut to a little girl in the crowd who is just BAWLING.

Christian Cage BURSTS out of a giant present (WTF CAGE) and saves Santa!

So. Yeah. That was something.

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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.07

TNA should be forced to shut down operations after that show.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.96
I rather liked the show myself. It was so ridiculous and obviously just a fun holiday show, so I wasn't expecting a whole lot to begin with. Angle in this show seemed to channel a little bit of the humorous WWE Angle I remembered and I find anything ODB does to be absolutely hilarious. Plus, I don't mind them setting Cage up to be the rogue face who still keeps his heelish personality (even if it means saving Santa Claus).

Oh, and Karen Angle? WOW. Un-believably hot.

(edited by Reverend J Shaft on 21.12.07 0842)
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
In a promotion with Samoa Joe, Kevin Nash, Abyss, Booker T, Sting, and countless stars that they could at least try and elevate (Kaz, Jay Lethal, even AJ), why in God's name are they turning Christian face and rehashing a match that we've seen countless times? His last face run didn't exactly set the world on fire.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.12
    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    In a promotion with Samoa Joe, Kevin Nash, Abyss, Booker T, Sting, and countless stars that they could at least try and elevate (Kaz, Jay Lethal, even AJ), why in God's name are they turning Christian face and rehashing a match that we've seen countless times? His last face run didn't exactly set the world on fire.


I like Christian better as a heel but this is totally different from his first face run. During his first face run he was the noble, respectful babyface type of character. This time he acts just like he would if he is a heel, but he just happens to be on the face side. it's completely different because Christian sucks at the first but is great at the second.

Also, when were these countless times that Angle and Christian fought? In all the years they've been in the same company they've had a one on one match on just two PPVs. One of those was a semi-finals of a King of the Ring in which they weren't really even feuding. The other time they wrestled in February. Well heaven forbid if they wrestle twice in the span of a year.

Perhaps they're feuding these two because, I don't know, because it's been a really great feud between two guys who are great on the mic and in the ring? But Kevin Nash and Abyss, you're right, I sure wish those guys were feuding instead.

I don't have a problem with having a silly holiday show, after all nobody had a problem with WWE's silly reunion show last week, and I don't even have a problem with AJ being used in a comedy match, But damn, AJ shouldn't be taking bumps like that on a nothing match. That suplex onto the ladder was pretty brutal.

I thought the cage with the lights looked pretty cool as well and the barbed wire Christmas tree too but neither match was worth watching.

(edited by Quezzy on 21.12.07 1014)


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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.81

Even the normally staid David J. Meltzer reaching his breaking point this week with Impact.



    THAT SHOW WAS WRETCHED

    Sorry, I had to vent, although the ladder match was cool before AJ had to wear the Rudolph costume.






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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.51
I don't get the point of the Samoa Joe angle. They're basically pointing out the weaknesses of their own show. Are we supposed to disagree with him when he says we'd rather see wrestling than Eric Young Comedy Hour? I don't get it.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.75
I think the Joe thing is going to slowly transition from "I'm an underappreciated worker" to "I'm a greedy guy who doesn't care about the fans and just wants my money". Turning Joe heel, if that's the plan, however, isn't something you can really do overnight, and it'd probably take quite a few promos. If that's the direction they're going, though, I applaud them doing it slowly and subtly. If it's just another "Hey, look, he's shooting" angle, though...*yawn*. That said, Joe's quite a good talker, so I'll give that a chance.

I'm not sure I get all the hate for this show. Yeah, the backstage segments were quite staged, with the extra camera angles, but they were brief, largely harmless, and gave lots of people a chance to show off some character. The matches were mostly very good (Main Event, the Six-man pole match) or at least entertaining (Women's match, the opening cage match). The only dead spot, I thought, was the Abyss/Rellik/etc. stuff, but that's because that entire angle is so retarded I can't possibly care about the participants. Even the premise of barbed wire shots didn't get me to avoid fast-forwarding.

On the whole, I, too, thought it was just a fun show. A little silly at times, but enjoyable for all that, with some good action, some good looking ladies, for those of us into that sort of thing, and a bit of comedy thrown in. What's so bad about that?

And yes, the little girl crying as Santa got ankle-locked was awesome.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.44
I thought it was the best episode ever. But on the other hand, I'm a huge mark for Borash, EY, ODB, Kong, Cage coming out of presents, Rellik winning one, midget wrestlers, Brother Ray at least TRYING to do a watered down ECW promo, Judas, and Santa. I could see how if you aren't a fan of all those things/people, this could've been a pain.

By the way, I totally feel Samoa Joe thinking that Xmas Parties are a waste of perfectly good Xmas Bonus money.
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.55
But if Joe turns heel, who does he feud with? Cage? We just saw that a few months ago with the roles reversed. I could get behind a Joe-Sting feud, if they decided to go that way, but I can't see the fans choosing to cheer Sting over Joe. Sting has his fans, but Joe is far and away the favorite of the impact zone.

Maybe it's not a heel turn, and they are going the route of the Stone Cold face turn 10 years ago. He tells it like it is, is pissed at the world, and is taking his frustration out on management.




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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.02
AJ Styles = insane. It's obvious Kaz and Styles tried to set up a Flux Capacitor from the turnbuckle down on the ladder, but changed it to a blocked powerbomb into a backdrop. And that "simple" spot may have been more damaging than what they initially wanted. Although, if the FC happened, I don't see how anyone could have ever topped that spot.

I enjoyed this show because any show with a wrestler thinking Santa is real immediately allows anything to happen. That's a one-time harmless bit of fun, and the show did a fair job using Christmas themes. The backstage bits, including the Thanksgiving material, is better than what the WWE does with its weekly backstage material (but the latter are usually shot live during the events).

Here's what I'm asking Santa to do for TNA:
1) Turn and push Sanjay.
2) Give Christian a better finisher. Maybe one not named for a TLC song. It's almost 2008.
3) Reduce the number of segments focusing on one guy or plot.
4) Replace Don West with Angle, and give us Styles/Christian for the belt.
5) Cover up Hoyt's tramp stamp because it makes me feel kinda funny.
6) End the Mitchell/Abyss feud. Nowish.
7) Cut Nash, Black Reign, Rhyno, Harris, Storm, VKM, and Eric $!%@ Young.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.51
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
    7) Cut Nash, Black Reign, Rhyno, Harris, Storm, VKM, and Eric $!%@ Young.


I agree with almost all of those, but I actually like James Storm. I think his character has potential. Harris, however, is terribly bland and should get off my TV NOW.
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by sentonBOMB
      Originally posted by Matt Tracker
      7) Cut Nash, Black Reign, Rhyno, Harris, Storm, VKM, and Eric $!%@ Young.


    I agree with almost all of those, but I actually like James Storm. I think his character has potential. Harris, however, is terribly bland and should get off my TV NOW.
No no no no no -- what you both should be wishing for is an AMW reunion. America's Most Wanted are a really great tag team and, for some reason, far more than the sum of its parts.

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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.02
    Originally posted by Karlos the Jackal
    No no no no no -- what you both should be wishing for is an AMW reunion. America's Most Wanted are a really great tag team and, for some reason, far more than the sum of its parts.


I think AMW shot its wad as TNA's first, best tag team. An AMW/LAX feud might be OK, but the tag titles have become meaningless now that Tomko/Styles are more involved in the Christian/Angle split than as fighting champs.

I dunno. AMW doesn't spark my interest any more.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.55
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
      Originally posted by Karlos the Jackal
      No no no no no -- what you both should be wishing for is an AMW reunion. America's Most Wanted are a really great tag team and, for some reason, far more than the sum of its parts.


    I think AMW shot its wad as TNA's first, best tag team. An AMW/LAX feud might be OK, but the tag titles have become meaningless now that Tomko/Styles are more involved in the Christian/Angle split than as fighting champs.

    I dunno. AMW doesn't spark my interest any more.


AMW doesn't spark my interest like they once did, but they would more collectively than they do individually. Although Storm isn't bad, his character is one dimensional. He drinks, we get it. Harris is sinking fast without him, however.

Why cut Rhino, Matt Tracker? He is one of the most over guys on the roster, and has rejuvenated his career in TNA. He does not belong in the same breath as Nash and Black Reign, and VKM. Those guys need to be cut yesterday.




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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.02
    Originally posted by kentish
    Why cut Rhino, Matt Tracker? He is one of the most over guys on the roster, and has rejuvenated his career in TNA. He does not belong in the same breath as Nash and Black Reign, and VKM. Those guys need to be cut yesterday.


They're not doing anything with him. He ran out a few weeks ago against Reign and Rellik, and I haven't seen him since. Same with Raven. When Impact went 2-hour, he had a sit-down rant and then *poof*. Nevermore. I like Rhino fine. I think he belongs in the upper card, and I marked out when he won the belt way back when.

But he's a non entity. He's the new Ron Killings. Scott Hall gets more on-air mention than Rhino. Hell, give him all of Monte Brown's gimmick and let him run wild. I'd be happy with Rhino vs. everyone as a running angle. But putting him in the never-ending Abyss plot helps no one.

(edited by Matt Tracker on 23.12.07 0632)


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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.55
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
      Originally posted by kentish
      Why cut Rhino, Matt Tracker? He is one of the most over guys on the roster, and has rejuvenated his career in TNA. He does not belong in the same breath as Nash and Black Reign, and VKM. Those guys need to be cut yesterday.


    They're not doing anything with him. He ran out a few weeks ago against Reign and Rellik, and I haven't seen him since. Same with Raven. When Impact went 2-hour, he had a sit-down rant and then *poof*. Nevermore. I like Rhino fine. I think he belongs in the upper card, and I marked out when he won the belt way back when.

    But he's a non entity. He's the new Ron Killings. Scott Hall gets more on-air mention than Rhino. Hell, give him all of Monte Brown's gimmick and let him run wild. I'd be happy with Rhino vs. everyone as a running angle. But putting him in the never-ending Abyss plot helps no one.

    (edited by Matt Tracker on 23.12.07 0632)


I think he has been out with a neck injury for a month or so.




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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.45
On TNA's website, it advertises the FR Ultimate X match as featuring 'THE MOTOR CITY MACHINGUNES'...
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All that was missing was a gimmick battle royal or something. Surely someone could have packed on a Jack Frost costume, or packed in some cotton balls into a singlet to become a snowman, right?

Funny show...but I hope these gimmick match-fests are moreso a rare occasion.



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