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We cold open with Mick Foley, earlier today, stomping through the backstage area, trailed by Jeremy Borash. Mick's hunting for Nash; apparently he's very upset about what happened at his meeting with Hulk Hogan that was set up by Nash. He finds Kevin in an empty Impact Zone and attacks, shouting incoherently ("joke" something, maybe?). The World Elite shows up to pull Foley off and slap him around a little bit.

ROXXI (YAY!) is here with Lauren backstage and she's back! She's spent her time off wrestling in Mexico and participating in fitness competitions.

Roxxi vs. ODB: Roxxi's ring gear -- vinyl shorts and top -- really emphasizes that she's actually a big girl (with really powerful-looking legs, especially) in a way that her previous gear tended to hide. She's able to launch ODB -- no waif herself -- overhead with a swift fallaway slam and makes it look effortless.

ODB fends her off with a splash in the corner followed by the Bronco Buster ("Carpet Buster"? "Bronco Muncher"? FFS, shut up, Tenay!) and a bearhug. Roxxi hits a sitout spinebuster, which Mike Tenay insists is the Voodoo Drop -- this is Tenay at his worst, here. ODB kicks out at 2, and then when Roxxi tries for the actual Voodoo Drop, Tenay of course has nothing to say about that. ODB goes for her flask -- referee Mike Posey confiscates it, and Roxxi rolls up the inattentive ODB -- for the pin!

Wow, pinning the champ right before the PPV, huh? Interesting. I've been assuming that ODB loses the belt this Sunday, so I'd guess that Roxxi's being set up to feud with her, or maybe as Tara's first challenger. Speaking of Tara, here she is -- ODB went after Roxxi and started choking her out with a -- scarf or something? -- but Tara chases her off.

We see tape of Foley's meeting with Hulk -- Foley shows up at Hulk's mansion in LA, where he's to let himself in to the gym. Foley waits, and then Hulk walks in -- The REAL, ORIGINAL Hulk -- LOU FERRIGNO. Ferrigno says, yes, Nash set up this meeting, but he seems unaware that it's a big prank. Foley is furious, and Ferrigno tries to calm him down, telling Foley, "Don't get angry -- I wouldn't like you when you're angry." Ha ha! Some people might complain about the "bait and switch," but they are sad and wrong.

Jeremy Borash is backstage, and Kevin Nash grabs the mic and delivers a rare shouty promo -- he's pissed that Foley dared lay hands on him -- once Hogan gets here, why, Foley's unemployed.

Borash is now (bamf!) in Foley's office, where Foley is wondering who his allies will be -- hopefully Jeff Jarrett will be on his side. Abyss comes in -- limping badly and showing off a pus-soaked bandage on his right leg from where he was set on fire last week. Abyss wants to make sure that Foley considers them allies. They agree that they are, which is good, since they're taking on Raven and Dr. Stevie at Final Resolution!

Matt Morgan vs. Brother Ray: Lumberjack match, and the lumberjacks are D'Angelo Dinero, Hernandez, and Suicide on Morgan's side, and the "Team 3D Wrecking Crew" on Ray's. (Suicide came out a little late and I thought he'd turn out to be a heel in the suit instead, but that didn't happen.)

Okay for what it is, which is, you know, Morgan and Ray. Standard lumberjack shenanigans ensue, until Morgan has Ray in position for the Hellevator -- but Jesse Neal slides in and lowblows Morgan from behind. Ray hits a DDT for the pin. The 3D Wrecking Crew has been all over the faces for the last month, solid.

Beer Money are with Lauren, and they agree that Beer Money has to win the Feast or Fired match -- it's the only way they'll get a shot against the British Invasion. Samoa Joe's here and would like to point out that he's gunning for a World Title shot, himself. Eric Young shows up next to let us know that he's going to be in the match, too -- as are Bashir, Kiyoshi, Rob Terry, Homicide, and Kevin Nash. Their SOLE PURPOSE in this match are to make sure that Beer Money doesn't get a title shot against the Brits! (TNA's website doesn't list Terry, so who knows if he's really in it. The other participants? Jay Lethal, Consequences Creed...and Cody Deaner. Fear for your job, Cody.)

The Beautiful People vs. Hamada & Kong vs. Sarita & Taylor Wilde: Hamada & Kong? Huh. Wonder if that's a long-term thing. I'd like to see what double-team moves those two could cook up. Match is very short and a little sloppy. Madison Rayne gets taken up for the Awesomebomb but counters into a sunset flip -- and Kong simply sits on her for the pin. Nothin' there, really.

Jeff Jarrett has arrived and is in Foley's office. JJ wants to go give Dixie a piece of his mind, but Foley thinks it's more prudent to talk to her calmly and try and keep his job. Jeff grudgingly agrees. Foley agrees with Dixie that "what Jeff did was wrong," but they still haven't told us what that is.

Jay Lethal vs. Tatanka: The problem with the Jay Lethal Invitational is it doesn't make sense for Lethal to win some and lose some -- he has to lose them all or win them all, and after The Anvil, we know which one it is. Even so, this is pretty sad for Lethal -- Tatanka (or should I say FATANKA) simply OWNS Lethal in this, taking 95% of the offense. Native American Death Drop finishes it.

(I'm pretty sure I'm not the first to get to "Fatanka," but I do think he's even a little bit chubbier than he was in his last WWE run. Also, I'm surprised he gets to use the name "Tatanka" at all.)

The Motor City Machine Guns seem to think they have a chance to get the tag belts on Sunday. Are you Beer Money? No? Sorry, back of the line.

JJ is in Dixie's office. I think this is Dixie's first "character" appearance -- not in an interview or press conference or whatever. She explains to Jeff that when he and she got on a plane to Pittsburgh years ago and went to visit Kurt Angle to convince him to join the company, that the promises they made to Kurt did not include Jarrett taking Angle's wife and children. IT'S A SHOOT. Jarrett is contrite, but Dixie's unenthused and tells him he has to make things right with Kurt.

Daniels vs. Desmond Wolfe: This is a result of their kerfuffle last week, when Daniels cost Wolfe his title match. Tenay and Taz are ON during this match, going into what I think of as their "technical" mode -- for instance, they start off by having a discussion of the cravate as an indicator of Wolfe's European style, and how the move compares to the side headlock as far as allowing a wrestler to control his opponent.

Great stuff from them and from the wrestlers as well, as they trade counters and reversals back and forth. Wolfe likes his hammerlocks -- he does a great hammerlock DDT which involves him also kicking Daniels' near shin out from under him -- it's little things like that that make Wolfe so interesting to watch. He also does a cool hammerlock crossface -- using his leg to cinch in the lock -- which Daniels only escapes by biting Wolfe's hand.

They head to the finish line with a series of reversal pinfalls -- those always look fakey to me -- and finally Daniels gets a small package, but can't get the pin as they roll back and forth -- the bell rings! The ten-minute time limit is up and that's a draw. Impact Zone is peeved but what can you do? That was the second-best Impact match this year, anyway.

Jeff Jarrett goes into Kurt's locker room (accompanied by Foley). He says that he's sorry if he did anything to disrespect Angle in any way (and he sounds sincere). Angle's all, "I have a match," and walks out, poker-faced.

AJ Styles, Bobby Lashley, Abyss, Tomko, & Kurt Angle vs. Scott Steiner, Dr. Stevie, Raven, & the British Invasion: Abyss, still limping because of his burned leg, immediately goes after Stevie and Raven -- Raven responds by BITING ABYSS' WOUND. Tenay and Taz are DISGUSTED -- but really, wouldn't it be worse if the meat was raw rather than well done? Abyss, Raven, and Stevie brawl to the back -- as do, on the other side of the ramp, Steiner and Lashley.

I am amused that this 10-man match immediately lost a half of its participants. Not much happens after that, really -- Angle doesn't much want to let other people into the match, although Tomko is in briefly before Angle tags himself back in, only to get taken down by the Double Union Jack. Styles is in as Rob Terry interferes and yanks Tomko down off the apron. The Brits try to get their double team Elevated Euro Uppercut, but Tomko shoves Doug Williams off the top and Styles small packages up Magnus for the win.

Afterward, Angle holds onto Styles' title belt a little too long, and as the belt occupies them, they get blindsided -- Wolfe hammerlock DDTs Angle and puts him in a keylock, while Daniels hits Styles with the Angel Wings. (Tomko, perhaps tellingly, has made himself scarce and does not make a save.) Wolfe and Daniels don't necessarily seem to be working together, but they shake hands at the end -- I guess their match resulted in some sort of mutual respect.

Not a bad show, overall -- anchored by the excellent Daniels/Wolfe match -- and a nice bounce-back from last week.

--K

(edited by Karlos the Jackal on 18.12.09 0401)

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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.24
That Daniels vs. Wolfe match rocked my night. If those two wanted to wrestle for the full four hours on New Year's Eve, I'd gladly watch (on DVR). I can't believe how excited I got over an f'n cravate.

The announcing was very fine as well. Tenay really sickens me when he makes crude sexual references about the Knockouts - it's especially gross coming from him - but he and Taz were in their element calling the action with Wolfe and Daniels. Best call of a wrestling match I've heard in a while.

Roxxi looked different. There was something new about her, a couple of things that weren't there before.

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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.32
It's nice to see that as a currently-disgruntled WWE fan, TNA tries to win me over with ever crappier programming.

First, let's get this out of the way. Daniels/Wolfe was an awesome match and made me want to see more. The problem was, who the hell ends with a TV time limit anymore? I feel like I died and woke up during a 1994 episode of WCW Saturday Night.

I can't believe they wasted as much time as they did with the Jarrett/Foley/Dixie melodrama. Not only does nobody care, but the audience probably doesn't even know what the hell's going on. *I* barely knew what was going on, and I kept up with that whole story. Too much insider crap.

Thanks for coming, Samoa Joe!

Remember when Jay Lethal pinned Kurt Angle clean on PPV and it was supposed to start his big push towards being a top-tier player? Yeah, that's the guy getting pinned clean by a 40-something-year-old fat guy parading around like a Native American stereotype.

They really put themselves in a corner with keeping Foley in the tag match with Raven and Stevie. They're clearly angling for Foley to become a heel...again. But to cement that, he'd have to turn on Abyss during the match on Sunday. The problem is, they just went that route just a few months ago! Does anyone really want to take that ride again?

If the plan is to purposely tank these shows to actually get people looking forward to the Hulk Hogan era, God help us, it's working. Bring on Hulk! It can't get a whole lot worse.

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.03
    Originally posted by John Orquiola

    Roxxi looked different. There was something new about her, a couple of things that weren't there before.




Dammit! Can't we have ONE hot wrestling babe without those? I know lots of people like the big fake boobies, but some of us just don't.

Didn't see the show, but ISTM that a lumberjack match with 6 lumberjacks would make the show look really cheap.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.24
    Originally posted by Peter The Hegemon
    Dammit! Can't we have ONE hot wrestling babe without those? I know lots of people like the big fake boobies, but some of us just don't.


I'm sure you don't consider them wrestlers, but Maria, Kelly Kelly and the Bellas are all natural.

And so's Awesome Kong! (I assume.)
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.70
So ... Foley is trying to get JJ back to counter Hogan's political power, but first JJ has to make peace with Angle? Is the top face against Hogan, for now, Jeff Jarrett?

If the enemy of my enemy is my friend, that means Foley, JJ, and -- eventually, presumably -- Sting are facing Hogan, Angle, and Nash.

That removes their fight from the belts. That's fine by me.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.23
Is it known for certain whether or not the current storylines in TNA are being conducted in collaboration with the soon-to-be top brass? Are Hogan, et al, going to come in and push the reset button like Russo and Bischoff did in WCW in 2000? Because if anything was learned from the dying days of WCW, I hope it's that that particular strategy was fucking stupid. But I have a hard time believing Hulk Hogan is going to come into TNA to start a feud with Jeff Jarrett and/or Mick Foley, especially with this seemingly setting up Hogan as a heel bringing his evil influence into the company.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by Peter The Hegemon
      Originally posted by John Orquiola

      Roxxi looked different. There was something new about her, a couple of things that weren't there before.




    Dammit! Can't we have ONE hot wrestling babe without those? I know lots of people like the big fake boobies, but some of us just don't.
I honestly didn't notice this, so I went back and checked the tape, and then put in an old Shimmer disc for comparison. I still wasn't totally convinced that there were implants at work, so I ran it past my wife. She agreed that Roxxi was more substantial, but that it could -- could -- be due to underwire, padding, and a better-fitting top.

Here's a pic from the show of Roxxi in her new gear. Oh, and here's one of Roxxi tossing ODB overhead without breaking a sweat.

Oh and hey in other Knockout news that doesn't deserve a new thread, backstage interviewer Lauren is leaving the company, and Christy Hemme is retiring from in-ring competition -- so that all works out, I guess, as Hemme can just take over for Lauren. No word yet on how Abyss is taking the news.

Hemme leaving shouldn't affect the KO division at all -- although she had a cool finisher and she was good at getting folded in half by Kong. On the one hand, Hemme at least tried hard and was improving in the ring. On the other hand, we never have to hear Mike Tenay say "firecrotch" ever again.

    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    Is it known for certain whether or not the current storylines in TNA are being conducted in collaboration with the soon-to-be top brass?
Yeah, no one who knows seems to be talking. Bischoff has, reportedly, recently met with Russo to plan for the January 4th show, but who knows if they're paying any attention at all to the current product.

Hogan was asked who he liked in TNA in a radio interview recently (transcript here) and after mentioning Angle and Sting he said "And now there's a new kid that's coming up through the ranks and is doing pretty good - a kid named AJ Styles." So, uh, I guess it's good that he can pick Styles out of a lineup, but it doesn't sound like Hogan is aware that he's the champ, or maybe just doesn't want to admit it (because Styles isn't "worthy" yet?). Ah, who knows.

I agree that the reset button would be the worst way they could go.

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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.03
    Originally posted by Karlos the Jackal

    Hogan was asked who he liked in TNA in a radio interview recently (transcript here) and after mentioning Angle and Sting he said "And now there's a new kid that's coming up through the ranks and is doing pretty good - a kid named AJ Styles." So, uh, I guess it's good that he can pick Styles out of a lineup, but it doesn't sound like Hogan is aware that he's the champ, or maybe just doesn't want to admit it (because Styles isn't "worthy" yet?). Ah, who knows.


"A new kid that's coming up through the ranks." He's been there since the very first show seven years ago, won his first world title more than six years ago, and has held every title in the company, pretty much always within a year or so of the title being created. "New". OK.

Thanks for the pics...that actually doesn't look like implants to me.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.12
I looked up quickly during the graphic of Stevie and Raven and though "Why is Awesome Kong standing behind Dr Stevie?".

Are the symbols on the back of Daniels' trunks 'Alpha', 'Omega' and 'Do Not Tumble Dry'?.

I didn't mind the time limit draw. It might seem old fashioned and probably should have been 5 minutes longer, but it's at least a different way for neither to take a pin or submission without the repeated old dq and countount victory scenarios. Also it makes people excited for a proper rematch without giving too much away for free at a time when there's no real reason for these 2 to be fighting at the moment, as they're involved elsewhere with Angle and AJ.



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