I don't understand how people who hate the Undertaker or talk about how bad he is (which I totally disagree with, plus I don't think Flair should have won over Taker in any event, now, in my humble opinion), can even think about entertaining the notion Triple H should join up with the NWO. If Triple H joins up with the NWO we might as well all welcome McMahon Helmsley era II (NWO Style 4 life). That means more boring ass Triple H promos where he says the same damn thing over and over again. That means Triple H gets ten MORE minutes of mic and tv time added to the twenty alloted already. For me, Taker dropping that weight a year ago and actually wrestling made him better for me. I love his character now, because he basically plays off the internet fans idea of Taker. I think the guy's a genuine redneck badass and I like him best as a heel. Personally, I think Taker fits the NWO mold more than Triple H. And everyone said Flair/Taker was good, but only gives credit to Flair. 2 men make a match. Period. You can't say it was all Flair, because that's just not fair. And as for Flair having more gas in the tank than Hogan, he does, but no one in the business will ever be able to get that kind of reaction and play with it like Hogan does. Hogan is the master of getting the crowd into things and personally last night showed it. From the beginning on, starting with the standoff to finally Hogan raising his arms and saying lets get started to the crowd, they were totally with him. Part of it's because a lot of us (if not all of us) fans were raised on Hulk Hogan. Hulk Hogan is the Lawrence Olivier of professional wrestling, he's old, he's stagy but goddamn he makes for good interesting tv. Even when Hogan's bad he's so good. "Bow Down When the NWO Comes to Your Town!" I laughed at that stupid ass line for two minutes. So simple, yet so dumb, yet so old school. My effort award will go to Christian/DDP however. They made the Euro title mean something for those ten minutes and I'm proud of both of those guys. As for Triple H, I have no respect for him and can freely say I wouldn't have been sad one note had he retore his quad. Triple H hasn't been entertaining and frankly I'm bored with him. And the things' he said about Jericho "not being ready" on Off the Record are pure and total b.s. I've been thouroughly entertained by Jericho since the infamous Speedo promo a couple of months ago, and only recently (with the introduction of Lucy and Jericho taking a backseat to Stephanie) have I been bored with anything he's done. In summation, I'll probably be crucified, but DAMN! I hate Triple H.
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Jerry Jones: So what's it gona' be Deion? Fifteen, or twenty?
Deion: I'll take both!
Hey, don't worry. I'm a bona-fide Triple H Hater. The last time I liked anything he'd done was at last years Wrestlemania, and that was only because he lost. Now he can't even work a decent match (or maybe he just needs to learn moves that aren't based around that damn knee). Whatever. Fine, kill Jericho's push. Just make sure that Jericho ends up on RAW and Steph/Triple H end up on Smackdown. Bleh
I imagine that a lot of those people who think HHH will join the NWO are just talking about what they think WILL happen, not what they think SHOULD happen. I think it would be a good way to get the angle over, though it would be funny to see Hall and Nash as a useless tag team a la The Show-Gunns.
I loved H-cubed doing the "knee moves" last night and then having to sell the quad injury.
"The best reason for committing loathsome & detestable acts -and let's face it, I am considerably something of an expert in the field - is purely for their own sake. Monetary gain is all very well, but it dilutes the tastes of wickedness to a lower level that is obtainable by anyone will an overdeveloped sense of avarice. True and baseless evil is as rare as the purest good - and we all know how rare THAT is." - Acheron Hades, THE EYRE AFFAIR by Jaspar Fforde
Originally posted by JaguarHey, don't worry. I'm a bona-fide Triple H Hater. The last time I liked anything he'd done was at last years Wrestlemania, and that was only because he lost. Now he can't even work a decent match (or maybe he just needs to learn moves that aren't based around that damn knee). Whatever. Fine, kill Jericho's push. Just make sure that Jericho ends up on RAW and Steph/Triple H end up on Smackdown. Bleh
Why is Triple H's offense being based around use of his knees any different than, say...Rob Van Dam's use of his high flying abilities? Or Taker/Kane/Big Show using their size to their advantage? Or any other wrestler using his hands?
Sorry, the knee isn't the most horrible thing in the world, I just got easily bored with his matches. He brings a great intensity to the matches (Austin/HHH, UT/HHH were both awesome) but all his TV matches and a lot of his PPV outings were so goddamned predictable. It's like I watch the match, and can see the setup for some move coming a mile away. This happens a lot with RVD these days too. No unpredictability makes for boring matches. So Triple H never really made me all that happy. Of course, when Jeff Hardy beat him, now that was not the finish that I would've expected. That was awesome too
BTW, I fast-forwarded through the HHH-Steph segment on RAW (went to see METROPOLIS instead... go see it, it's awesome!) did I miss anything besides the Steph/Jericho vs Triple H match for next week?
The main problem with HHH isn't what he does in the ring, it's that he's been involved in the same matchups for the last year at least and it's gotten very stale. I didn't watch tonight, so maybe they've changed it. If they want to get me interested in the main events, they've got to do something other than endless combinations of HHH/Angle/Rock/Austin....and now HHH/Jericho.
Originally posted by JaguarBTW, I fast-forwarded through the HHH-Steph segment on RAW (went to see METROPOLIS instead... go see it, it's awesome!) did I miss anything besides the Steph/Jericho vs Triple H match for next week?
I briefly scrolled through this thread and didn't see any changes in the spreads. Feel free to correct me if I missed any updates. With that said: Lesnar vs. Holly - WWE Smackdown Title Bet $500 on Lesnar winning at 1:8 Bet $100 on a pinfall at 1: