When I walked out of Wal-Mart today, I walked by some kids playing with WWE action figures. They had a ladder set up and Rock and Rey Mysterio were going toe to toe (the little girl was amazed that Rey's figure was about the same size as the Rock's. :P)
Which made me wonder: could WWE's revival come in the opposite way as the last one did? Is it time Attitude said bye bye once and for all and WWE became, in fact, a kid-oriented program?
I'm not sure I'd like that personally, as a fan, but I bet it'd make money. Kids today have a LOT more disposable income than they did back in the 80's. Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokemon and other kid stuff makes a crapload of profit. And kids are the perfect marks. They don't need to suspend their disbelief or be 'worked'. They just buy it. Is getting to show his ass on TV worth it for Vince to turn down a potential goldmine?
Of course, some WWE superstars are more kid-friendly than others. Rey I can see easily being huge with a kid market. Small, underdog, cool mask/outfit, flashy moves. Same with the Hurricane. Edge just strikes me as a fun guy who'd be good with kids, and somehow Big Show strikes me the same way.
I'm not sure how much the in-ring style of product would need to be tweaked for a kid-audience. For the most part, I think it'd be fine as is, especially since 'hardcore' wrestling has been on the wane in WWE rings. Broader, more cartoony storylines, rather than adult soap opera, might actually work better, as they'd simplify things back to good vs. evil and spare us the writer's attempts to write "Days of Our Lives" for men.
Even if it's not kids, it's going to be some radical change in direction, I think, not a single superstar, that makes the difference for business. It might occur gradually (as Attitude did, with Stone Cold, Goldust, D-X and others slowly raising the bar for outrageousness, until Vince finally named it). But there will be no quick fix. I'm willing to admit that I'm enough of a hardcore fan that I'll probably stick around no matter which one they choose. I'll always find something to like about wrestling.
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I agree with you, but I don't think the WWE should do it. They would lose a fan base and sponsors and TNN, and a lot of people parents wouldn't let their kids watch it because of the adult orientation for the past 6 years. If it were to happen It would need to be a 100 percent new federation.
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I don't think they'd have to worry about their sponsers. They're biggest backers right now are video game companies, fast-food restaurants, and super-soaker toys. As much as they like to b.s. us, they're still getting (and going after) the kid's market. They just want to get the older people to watch too, because when it comes down to it, 12 year olds can't order PPV's that they're parents won't let them (most of the time, at least).
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I don't think that they became the number one show on cable (when they were) before the "Attitude Era" came along so I don't think they would dump what made them number one. Maybe Iam wrong but I thought I read that many promotors and wrestlers were not happy with the "gimmicky" WWF/E cause they thought it made a joke out of wrestling.
If they were going to go back to a kid friendly approach, the first thing they would have to do is change the TV programs. Not just content, but time periods. They would in essense have to return to the syndication Saturday Morning formula of the 80's, rather than the prime time slots they fill now. Also, PPV's would have to go back into the late afternoon category that Mania had in the 80's into the early 90's. Could it work. Theoretically yes, but with the writing staff they currently have, no.
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Originally posted by redsoxnationIf they were going to go back to a kid friendly approach, the first thing they would have to do is change the TV programs. Not just content, but time periods. They would in essense have to return to the syndication Saturday Morning formula of the 80's, rather than the prime time slots they fill now. Also, PPV's would have to go back into the late afternoon category that Mania had in the 80's into the early 90's. Could it work. Theoretically yes, but with the writing staff they currently have, no.
I fail to see how the current writing staff would be incapable of writing predominantly a kid's orientated show. If anything, it would be easier to write than anything they're attempting now... besides, one could argue that WWE already have a kid friendly approach, what with the rumoured cartoon in production.
The lack of a head writer that could script a plot thread for even the lowest guy on the card.
Under Russo the Fed had plot lines going not just for the maineventers, but guys like both Hollys, Al Snow, Mark and Dlo, Too Cool, Blackman, and even Ron Simmons for chrissakes ! Everyone had a piece of the pie. And new stars were created (or at least you remembered who they were).
Nowadays, only the top echelon (guys looking down thru the glass ceiling) have coherent plots.
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Originally posted by GodEatGod I'm not sure I'd like that personally, as a fan, but I bet it'd make money. Kids today have a LOT more disposable income than they did back in the 80's. Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokemon and other kid stuff makes a crapload of profit. And kids are the perfect marks. They don't need to suspend their disbelief or be 'worked'. They just buy it. Is getting to show his ass on TV worth it for Vince to turn down a potential goldmine?
another interesting point to bring in here, the WWE has a card game (WWE Raw Deal) which is where a fair share, if not a majority, of the Pokemoney and Yu-gi-oh cash cow exists.. and in an odd twist, its honestly the most entertaining card game I've played out there, the mechanics are pretty tight and it has the feel of a wrestling 'match' while just being damn entertaining.. so with toys and a CCG in place, with video games and all, I think it would be rediculously easy to go from the 'adult collector' image they try to put on it to a kids market.. if Vince wants to go that way..
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The Raw game is really good game and depends where you are in the country a great seller. I used to work at a comic book shop and in one store I was the only one buying well the same store 45 minutes couldn't keep it in stock. Of course, the game has had a number of expansions and is always in the top ten of CCGs. Of course, tomorrow the game could fold like the other 80% of the CCGs out there, trust me I know.
I do contend that is not for the young kids market. Those days are gone for the WWE. They may have little fans who watch with their parents and like Rey, Rock and Austin, but they are not going to be the next generation of Rock and Wrestling. The WWE needs to stick to more reality and fun than Crash TV. In looking back at my Raw and Foley DVDs I think I found what is missing. A sense of anything can happen. The show only started to be formulatic in 99/00 with the never ending Austin/McMahon storyline and the McMahon/Helmsley era. The show needs to lose the 20 minute promos, backstage skits and general sense of been there done that. They need to go back to stuff like Austin holding the show hostage, Mick winning the title and general out of nowhere stuff. I think the ratings are down, because the fans know exactly what is going to happen as soon as the show starts either via internet or more to been there seen that feel of the show.
A Fan- I think the cartoon will die like everything else they have done in the last three years.
Originally posted by GodEatGodWhen I walked out of Wal-Mart today, I walked by some kids playing with WWE action figures. They had a ladder set up and Rock and Rey Mysterio were going toe to toe (the little girl was amazed that Rey's figure was about the same size as the Rock's. :P)
A little off-topic, but...LUCKY KID! I've been looking all over for a Rey Rey to no avail!
The best part of "dusty dust" was his indignation that Bradshaw would not "sell for him," when he did the flip, flop and floozle. Hey, since Vince owns WCW now, couldn't they now do the "seven/platinum" gimmick?