Not to take anything away from wrestler, but you need to remember you weren't prepared for the bump, so your reaction and body composure may have had you land differently. I know from experience that when you know something is going to happen it doesn't affect you as much...
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Good gawd dude...yeah you got lucky not to break anything. I've never bumped on concrete, let alone six or seven feet, but fallen yes. Once you've take a legitimate bump you get a totally new view of the whole wrestling spectrum.
After you find out what hitting that mat is like that when you find out what bumping is all about. That's when you find out how professional wrestling isn't really that "rigged". Yeah, regular marks say, "Nobody really gets hurt." That's when you point out how sore you next moring then tell me how "rigged", "phony", or "fake" it is. Tell them to try it and half the people say they could.
Originally posted by MoeGatesMy dumb-ass took a careless step backward and fell down a hole. 6 or 7 feet onto concrete. Flat on my back. Almost a picture perfect bump.
I now have a new respect for Wrestlers. I didn't break anything (thank God), but it hurt when I breathed for 3 days. To get up and do it AGAIN is amazing.
Yeah yeah, nothing everyone doesn't already know. But it's like Boxing or being in combat - you might appreciate it intellectually, but even a little taste of it firsthand is a whole different thing.
Mind if I ask what your build is like? I mean, if you're built like Foley your body is more---absorbant to that kind of abuse, but if you have a Crusierweight's build that kind of bump will murder you. I'm just trying to picture what that must have looked like.
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Having taken planned and unplanned bumps... Both hurt, as they are a shock to the system. It helps to know how to do it. (Whether from training or judo (how I learned) to lessen the possible impact. Also, in most cases, the adrenaline helps a LOT.
For example, a week ago Saturday, I was tackled by a drunk through ropes and into concrete. That one hurt.... still does, in fact.
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1. Your lungs were full at the time of impact, which is why it hurt to breath for so long. Workers usually scream while bumping to not only enhance the show of it all, but to get all the air out of their lungs too.
2. Gravity effects you less than I, so while we fall as fast, I accelerate faster and carry more momentum while falling. Any heavier and you might have really injured yourself.
3. You're extraordinarily lucky. There is a complete world of difference between bumping in a ring and falling into a pit. Any slight twitch of movement could have meant anything but your back hitting, which is very bad. Your back is the strongest part of the body, so it took the blow as best possible, and it's very fortunate that your arms, hands, knees, or head hadn't made contact instead.
And while a newfound respect for workers who get paid to bump on surfaces which have more give than concrete, usually from lower than 5 feet is nice, and appreciated by those workers, make sure you count your blessings.
Imagine, a kid does the same thing, hurts himself, jokingly says it's bumping, and Mom takes it seriously, we have a lawsuit, and people don't like that.
Hope you feel better, and next time, don't walk backwards around deep pits :)
I'm going to be taking a lot of bumps in the near future, next week I'm checking out Blake Norton's Irish Whip Wrestling school.
I used to take a lot of bumps playing wrestling with my friends in one of our garden's when I was like 12-13. I was the fat kid and not very athletic, so I was the bumper. Of course I had even less experience than a backyarder, so big bumps hurt like hell. Fuck, I used to take dropkicks off pillars onto grass and land all kinds of fucked up ways. Needless to say I would be hurting for the rest of the day.
Worst bump I ever took was a Rock Bottom onto the concrete. I was wrestling this smaller guy and figured he wouldn't be able to lift me, so I better jump backwards so it doesn't look like a botched STO.
Turns out he could lift me.
Now combine that impact with the dramatic jump I did to help the fall look good.
I still kicked out. Leggo always bumped but never sold.
Unsurprisingly though, I learned soon after that that back (or front, as it where) yard wrestling was a bad idea.
Sounds nasty. Glad to hear you didn't break anything.
The worst bump I ever took is when a chokeslam onto grass. I figured the guy would never be able to lift me, considering he was an inch shorter than me. Turns out, not only could he lift me, he delivered one of the most perfect chokeslams you'll ever see. I landed flat on my back (The ground was harder than I thought), and just lay there, while all the other guys ran around screaming "Oh, sh*t, you killed him!" Afterwards, I just got back up. Miraculously, I suffered no ill effects from that chokeslam, so, I guess I was prepared for it. Or something like that.
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Ouch. Be CAREFUL!
Worst bump I ever took was when I had a buddy hoisting me for a Razor's Edge. Someone then knocks him over, so I go FLYING like a dummy and land in a heap. It was on the grass so I was okay, but the more I reflect on it the more I realize how lucky I was that day.
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Last fall semester, me and a friend of mine spotted someone we knew across one of the big fields on campus. We broke into a full sprint in an attepmt to tackle him, double clothesline style. But, the dude saw us coming, and turned and ducked at me, hitting a HUUUGE backbody drop, and sending me wayyyyy up into the air to land flat on my back. This guy is about 6'4" and he stood pretty close to straight up when he threw me over. Needless to say, my tag team partner didn't go on with the attack because he was rolling on the ground in laughter. I sold the move for the next 2 days.
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We used to wrestle around in the living room with mattresses and couches. The worst bump I ever took was completely unintentional. I was in a match that was supposed to have a Russo-fied finish, complete with interference. So when I climbed up on the couch to deliver my finishing splash, I was expecting someone to come in and hit me from behind. Turns out he was on my side and waffled me in the face with a fake title belt right when I jumped. Totally unprepared, I went flying off into the OTHER couch (which was perpendicular to the one I was jumping off, kinda making a corner of the "ring") and faceplanted on the armrest. We were taping the thing, and it looked cooler than anything else I have ever seen. I did get to sell it for a good 2 days, though. Bumping is always great fun...
Of course the greatest bump for me came at the hands of Randy Orton. He was in OVW (Louisville, where I live) two years ago and lived down the street from us kids and came down to the pool and taught us how to throw spinebusters. You can guess the rest. It hurt like a bitch, but really, how many of you can say that you've been spinebustered by Randy Orton?
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He tried real hard to explain it thoroughly the first time and failed miserably, because of our lack of attention spans. I think after a while, he gave up and just started tossing us into the pool. He tried...I think I may be part of the reason for that annoying habit of his, though. I think we sapped the faith he had in human intelligence by making him repeat everything at least three times.
yeah dude, that sounds like it must have tickeled...
The worst bump I ever took was unintentional too, it was before lacrosse practice when the whole team would always try to take me and my buddy down, and as they were all trying to tackle him, I climbed up onto the roof of the east wing of the school, (which was like probably 8-10 feet high) and went for a flying legdrop on a kid who was on the ground, well he moved and I landed right ontop of his helmet instead, which was lieing on the grass. Bruised my tailbone and had to carry like a pillow to all of my classes to sit on for like two weeks.
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Worst one I ever had: was working with an University of Washington improv group that was planning a special "UW-WF" wrestling-themed improv show. It was the third time they'd done the show, but most of the people in the group were new and had never even seen wrestling. The normal guy who did the training had a fallout with the group's leader, so myself and another guy, who had done it all of twice, thought we could do the training ourselves.
In our first session, we tried to display a DDT. I was supposed to be the one executing it, but I did my part of the move wrong. When we landed, my partner actually managed to come down with his foot striking me right in the nose, damn near breaking it. I ended up trailing blood across the entire building as I tried to find an unlocked bathroom.
We stuck to punches and kicks after that. And one girl eventually learned to do an X-Factor, but only when done on a two-foot soft foam pad.
Our high school improv group ended up doing a couple table spots off of the stage. Basically the bigger dude tossed me off the stage and I did a face-plant onto the waiting table below, breaking the fall with my arms, and then flying back to the ground below due to the impact. We did it all of twice, and I ended up jamming my elbows on the table part and then landing too hard on the back of my head on the fall-back.
Damn hurt, too.
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Originally posted by Lexus2. Gravity effects you less than I, so while we fall as fast, I accelerate faster and carry more momentum while falling. Any heavier and you might have really injured yourself.
Isn't this wrong? Two objects of different size dropped from the same height at the same time will hit the ground at the same speed at the same time, right? A heavier object will have more energy due to more mass, but it won't be moving any faster. Isn't that what I learned in high school physics?
(Note: Sorry if this thread's too old for a reply, but I got behind on reading skimming the Wrestling forum and this post brought on questions.)
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