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#1 Posted on
Well, another Tampa Bay playoff season, another disappointment. And it's not a "oh we were sooooo close" disappointment like two years ago in the NFC title game against St. Louis. It was a "Man, we got our asses kicked" disappointment like...last year in philly. The worst part is that Dungy is likely gone (which I think is just wrong) because of Brad Johnson's terrible play. He tossed 4 INTs.



For next year, the Bucs need to tell Randell McDaniel he needs to retire, make Alstott the focus back, let Dunn go (his backup, Aaron Stecker is just as good and runs the same style as Dunn), and draft a good wide receiver to compliment Keyshawn Johnson. This is, of course, hoping they don't totally dismantle the team.



Sigh...8 months of no Bucs. I thought they brought Brad Johnson in to win these games, not cost the team them.




(edited by TheBucsFan on 12.1.02 1702)
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#2 Posted on

How ironic.

I was going to post something with the EXACT same title. :>

Thank God I'm not close enough to listen to WIP tomorrow.






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#3 Posted on
I have a good opinion about Dungy generally, but any coach who lets his future ride on Brad Johnson is a step away from letting his future ride on Jeff George or Ryan Leaf. BJ is one of the least effective starting QB's in football. Lots of yards and nothing particularly effective out of it.



There, I feel better now.
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I agree, Brad Johnson's only success came in Minnesota and how can you not have success throwing to those guys. A lot of QB's have gone through there and looked good.

Hey on the bright side Bledsoe is out there Parcells+Bledsoe=Bucs fans forgetting about this season.



210
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STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPIDSTUPID STUPID STUPID
DAM BUCS!






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I've been a fan of Tampa Bay for years, and it's a damn shame that they keep having seasons where they come up way short.

Who knows, maybe they'll keep Dungy last minute and have a Steeler-like year next year?



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#7 Posted on
Originally posted by 210

STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPIDSTUPID STUPID STUPID
DAM BUCS!


Heh. If I didn't know better I'd say you don't want to go to the dome to play the Rams next week if you win. You were hoping to come back to Soldier Field and let Brett work his evil magic on us again...well no luck you sneaky Packer People.



There, I feel better now.

(edited by spf2119 on 12.1.02 2139)
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Hmm, I never realized McNabb had Chicago roots, that'll be interesting.



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TheBucsFan
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#9 Posted on
Ultimately, what this game came down to was the Bucs seemingly being content with field goals when they got to the red zone (like they have all year). From their first score, when Dexter Jackson picked off a pass around the Philly 30 yard line, and they couldn't put it in the endzone, I smelled trouble. We need TOUCHDOWNS on those! Damn, it's gonna take me a long time to get over this...I try and defend Dungy, but there was just some horrible, HORRIBLE play calling in this game.



I never thought I would say this...but I hope the Green Bay Packers win the Super Bowl.
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#10 Posted on
So there's no Packers/Bears III. Too bad - I'm sure the Pack was looking for an easy second round game...

I wonder if this means that Tampa Bay will make a bid for Drew Bledsoe. Their system just don't seem to have much luck with quarterbacks these days (Testaverde, Dilfer, Johnson, etc.). Perhaps a proven Super Bowl Quarterback (even though he lost - to Green Bay ) would do the job.

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#11 Posted on
Yeah, dude, I feel bad about the Buccaneers losing again. Look on the bright side, though-- at least you didn't have to suffer through the kind of season I did, with the Colts finishing 6-10 in what was supposed to be their championship year. And then coach Jim Mora got fired, even though it wasn't his fault... I blame a lot of it on the fact that Edgerrin James got injured for most of the season.

There's always next year, I suppose. Although I seem to be saying that about the Colts every year...

Can someone answer me this one question? Why is it when a team does bad, the very first person to go is the coach? Oh, no, don't blame the quarterback. Don't blame the defensive line. Don't even blame the lowliest guy on the team, the kicker. Put all the blame for a disappointing season on the coach.

I wish I could say it was limited to football. But it's in almost every professional sport.

I wish it was in wrestling, though. “Stephanie, your writing sucks, YOU'RE FIRED!” HA! Like that would ever happen.

And that, as they say, is that.



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#12 Posted on
In most cases, the coach doesn't have a guaranteed contract; in all cases, his contract doesn't count against the salary cap.

Plus, as the putative head of the team, "the buck stops" with the coach - right?

Steph



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Well, overall, its still a buisness. And someone has to be accountable. When your team is (sometimes) barely trying on the field, it reflects the coaching. The Lions were horrid this year, but they gave it thier all, almost all season long. It just seemed like the Colts gave up at one point. Although the last two weeks were a nice pickup. BUt I still think its accountability, that, and owners and GM's usually tend to think a new coach will ignite some new kind of inspiration for a team.


Heh. If I didn't know better I'd say you don't want to go to the dome to play the Rams next week if you win. You were hoping to come back to Soldier Field and let Brett work his evil magic on us again...well no luck you sneaky Packer People.





I have no idea what your talkking about...

Wait, yeah I do.





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Originally posted by Stephanie
So there's no Packers/Bears III. Too bad - I'm sure the Pack was looking for an easy second round game...


Does this mean you're already expecting to lose to the Rams. Since if you win you can get that Bears/Packers matchup for the NFC Championship. Because you know the Bears are taking down Donovan and the Eagles. But I guess the dome will be calling us 2 weeks from now then according to you pessmimists



There, I feel better now.
Quezzy
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#15 Posted on
Well let me first say i DON'T hate the Eagles but decided to post in this thread anyway.

Some good points were brought up already about why coaches get blamed, but I think that another reason is because it's easier to fire a coach and bring in someone that you think can do better than it is to completely change your team by making 5 or 6 changes to the team. I'm just sick of coaches getting fired before they even get a real chance of doing anything.

As for the Bucs and Eagles game, I only saw a little bit cause I had two basketball games to go to. I only saw one of Brad Johnson's interceptions and it was just a great play by Troy Vincent. What about the rest of them? Were they just bad passes? Just like the Ravens, I don't think they should've gotten rid of Dilfer.

I don't know how possible it would be but if I was the Bucs I'd try and get Bledsoe from the Patriots since they have Brady now. It'd probably cost them a lot though.

I also don't think Dungy should be fired, but if he was, I'd get Spurrier not Parcells. I know Parcells is a proven coach in the NFL and Spurrier isn't. But, they already have the defense there so Spurrier could focus on the offense, and if he runs the same kind of offense in the NFL as he did in college then maybe he can get Jacquez Green and Reidel Anthony to help out Keyshawn since it would be the same offensive system they played in college at Florida.

But anyway, i'm happy cause the two teams i picked to go the Super Bowl (Eagles and Raiders) both made it past the first round.
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#16 Posted on
Well, 3 of Johnson INTs were Bad throws, throwing of his back foot or into triple coverage.

Now, I realize I am no head coach/G.M., but, like wrestling, it's fun to speculate how the solution should come about. My answer to the Bucs problems:

1)Brad Johnson is making a lot of money, but he's just not getting it done. Give Shaun King his starting job back, release Johnson if he can't handle being a backup (which is understandable). King, I believe, is the QB of the future potentially for this franchise.

2)Let Warrick Dunn, who is a free agent, go. His back-up. Aaron Stecker, is just as good, and runs a similar style. Plus, he is more powerful. Make Mike Alstott the feature running back for the team, with Jameel Cook the starting fullback.

3)Tell guard Randell Mcdaniel it's time to retire. He's nearly immobile. Draft/sign a lineman to replace him.

4)Draft/sign a good receiver to take some of the load of Keyshawn Johnson. Maybe Chris Carter would like to come to Tampa if they can afford him. As for the rest of the receivers: keep Karl Williams, who is good as a return man, keep Jaquez Green, who is a good deep threat and is still young, and let Reidel Anthony go, he just hasn't lived up to expectations.

5)Draft/sign a good run-stopping interior defensive-lineman. Warren Sapp and Anthony Mcfarland are great pass rushers, but they are just average at best when it comes to stopping the run.

6)Anyone else who I haven't mentioned should be kept on board.

7)Keep the current coaching staff intact. The players love Dungy (did anyone else see Keyshawn after the game Saturday? He was pretty upset), and the musical chairs they've played with offensive coordinators (3 in three years) makes it hard to develop a good offense.



"A lot of guys on this team have a lot of bark, but no bite. Guys have to just shut up and play."
-- WR Keyshawn Johnson, following the playoff loss to Philadelphia

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#17 Posted on
McNabb is the whole offense in Philly. I really thought the Bucs had a chance yesterday, but some tough breaks and not having a 2nd receiver really hurt them. You know what I love? The fact that the announcers always say, "You know Brad Johnson is the 3 rd most accurate passer in NFL history." I think my roommate summed that one up with this comment: "Who's number 1, Shane Matthews?" I fell right off my chair. We are huge Bears fans, and the way Matthews and Johnson dink and dunk and throw those nice 5 yard passes kills us. Any schmo could be accurate with those kind of passes. You always hear, "Get the ball vertical." It's true! Get the damn ball downfield, even if you don't complete it. It loosens up the defense. This is great if you have guys like Dunn and Alstott to run. Glad to see Parcells back (probably), but glad he is in the NFC South, not in the North with us.



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