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Since: 18.3.02
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I literally thought I had been going insane the last couple of weeks, until I looked this stuff up and now I'm wondering if others have experienced it.

I've been having a great deal of trouble sleeping lately, which I am seeing a doctor about, but most recently I've started to "hear things" right before I fall asleep and/or right before I wake up.

The most common is someone speaking my name, or speaking gibberish. Those are easy enough to deal with, but other times it's been a loud crash like an accident outside, someone giggling, or a blood curdling scream. The latter are the ones that just mess with me.

From what I've read, these can be brought on by sleep deprivation (definitely me for the past month) or stress (ditto), which seems to be a vicious circle given that the more frightening of these incidents is not exactly conducive to restful sleep. For some reason the giggling is the worst.

So...anyone else ever experience anything like this?
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Read it and weep, fella


    Originally posted by cranlsn
    but other times it's been a loud crash like an accident outside, someone giggling, or a blood curdling scream.
I get the crash sounds, like someone bumped into the house with their car or a bookshelf falling over or something. I kept jumping out of bed to check around the house or run outside to see who crashed into my house and finding nothing. I thought maybe I was just half-awake/half-dreaming them so I stopped getting up for it. but it still happens. Weird.



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Since: 11.2.03
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I sometimes think I hear my name being called when I'm going to sleep, and I definitely wake up from time to time thinking I just heard the phone ring or a knock on the door or something of that nature. Certainly nothing as alarming and stressful as what you describe.

I hope there are treatments that can help you.
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Since: 10.12.01
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On occasion, I have sleep paralysis, especially if I am overtired or stayed up too late. Basically, you're stuck somewhere between being awake and asleep, and you can't move and you dream or hallucinate. I often feel like I'm choking (which is very common with this) or I have a sensation that I can only describe as being hyper-aware, like I can hear all the blood flowing through me. Other people have other hallucinations or nightmares; I read about one guy who used to see Darth Vader standing in his bedroom.

The first time I was aware of it happening (in retrospect, I have had this happen since childhood), I was convinced I was dying. Now, though, I just think "oh, it's this deal again" and ride it out. If I'm really aware of it, I try to lucid dream but no luck so far.
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Since: 9.1.02
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I do sleep-talking all the time according to my girlfriend, who is none too amused when I start saying things like "The only answer is to strangle it...." instead of the normal mess of words like "Human north cat was wwhwehas bird asemmombly".

I used to sleep walk, right to the point of getting up and doing complicated things. One time my parents walked in on me as a kid because they heard a crapload of noise and thought we were being robbed. I was 12 years old or so, and had gotten up and started moving my dresser and desk around the room to re-arrange the place. I had a full conversation with them in which they said I answered all questions honestly ("What are you doing?" "I'm moving the dresser on top of my desk") and when told to stop and go to bed I did. Weirdest part was the next morning I was told to put everything back where it was and I had to get help to move the dresser and desk back as they were too heavy for me to even budge.

As a toddler my parents say they usually had to search the house to find me in the mornings, as I'd sometimes walk myself into corners, under couches, etc and then fall back asleep.

I've also had the hallucinations just as I was falling asleep. Right before actually falling asleep, shadows or shapes in the room would suddenly look like people, and sometimes even seem to move. Sometimes this would happen if I woke up in the middle of the night and looked around. This seems to have gone away since being 18 or so, but was definitely terrifying.
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Since: 18.3.02
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Well last night was more like someone exhaling really hard. Not too bad all things considered, but after that I was just itchy so I didn't get to sleep until 4am, woke at 5:30 & 7:30 then fell back to sleep. My wife was kind enough to let me sleep in.

Hopefully I get some answers on Tuesday as too many more nights without decent sleep is not a cheery prospect.

It does at least help to know that I'm not alone in my sleep "weirdness".

If you Google this, some people have even had visual components like waking up to a face inches from their own that then fades away. No thanks...that would freak me right the fuck out!
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It probably wouldn't hurt to try and talk with your doctor about it. A physician with experience in sleep medicine would be best, but a general practitioner might have some info for you or could refer you to a sleep specialist.



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Also, try getting more B vitamins. I think Niacin specifically?

Talk to a doctor though. This is not medical advice, I am not a doctor.




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Since: 12.8.02
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For what it's worth, I used to experience stuff like this all the time. I usually heard loud bangs like a door slamming, or someone saying my name. I did lots of weirdo sleep talking, too. I was diagnosed with severe sleep apnea about a year ago, and now use a bipap/oxygen treatment while sleeping. This phenomenon has not happened since. It might be worth your while to look into having a sleep study done.
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Since: 18.3.02
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I have already slept (or tried) to with a monitor wired up to me. I'm meeting with a doctor on Tuesday to discuss those results. I plan on telling him everything that's happened with me, as well as going over my diet/nutrition (Thanks Guru), as this needs to stop soon.
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The sleep apnea treatments using BiPap or CPAP seem way worse than they are. I've used a CPAP machine for a decade now. Don't hesitate to do it if your doctor recommends it, you will get used to it and adapt, even if you feel like a fighter pilot for the first few months.




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Counterpoint: I had a CPAP machine and I hated it. I frequently woke up in the morning with it no longer on my face somehow. When the cheap plastic tubing started disintegrating, I didn't bother to replace it. I eventually lost about 80 pounds and I believe my apnea went away.
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.94
    Originally posted by cranlsn
    I plan on telling him everything that's happened with me, as well as going over my diet/nutrition


    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
    I eventually lost about 80 pounds and I believe my apnea went away.


Bingo. Eating a good human diet, exercising, and maintaining a decent body weight will alleviate most ailments. Throwing drugs and weird facemasks at things should really be a last resort.
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.57
    Originally posted by samoflange
      Originally posted by cranlsn
      I plan on telling him everything that's happened with me, as well as going over my diet/nutrition


      Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
      I eventually lost about 80 pounds and I believe my apnea went away.


    Bingo. Eating a good human diet, exercising, and maintaining a decent body weight will alleviate most ailments. Throwing drugs and weird facemasks at things should really be a last resort.


Boy, that's pretty judgemental and dismissive. Instead of just calling people who follow legitimate medical treatments fat asses, maybe you should just keep your mouth shut.

(edited by Guru Zim on 15.5.12 0923)



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    Originally posted by Guru Zim
      Originally posted by samoflange
        Originally posted by cranlsn
        I plan on telling him everything that's happened with me, as well as going over my diet/nutrition


        Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
        I eventually lost about 80 pounds and I believe my apnea went away.


      Bingo. Eating a good human diet, exercising, and maintaining a decent body weight will alleviate most ailments. Throwing drugs and weird facemasks at things should really be a last resort.


    Boy, that's pretty judgemental and dismissive. Instead of just calling people who follow legitimate medical treatments fat asses, maybe you should just keep your mouth shut.

    (edited by Guru Zim on 15.5.12 0923)


As a counter-example, I present Mark Evanier. http://www.newsfromme.com/2012/03/28/from-the-e-mailbag-13/

He has been pretty candid about the operation that he had to reduce his weight and what he has done to keep the weight off ever since, but that dramatic weight reduction did not stop his sleep apnea.

Congratulations on solving your problem, but your solution might not work for everyone.



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    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    Boy, that's pretty judgemental and dismissive. Instead of just calling people who follow legitimate medical treatments fat asses, maybe you should just keep your mouth shut.


I said it as diplomatically as possibly, but that is -exactly- how I see things. If somebody has a physical or mental problem and does not have their diet/exercise at a healthy level, then the first treatment that should be tried is to get in better shape. The human body did not evolve with the non-nutritious food and low activity level that is so common in affluent countries today, and I agree with many other nutritionists and exercise physiologists who theorize that to be the root cause of a huge number of our modern medical issues. "Legitimate medical treatments" may work fine too, but why treat symptoms before trying to find and treat the cause?

Hearing voices/screams... I don't know. But sleep apnea, headaches, and insomnia could all very easily be attributed to poor diet and physical fitness. In any case it's the cheapest and easiest thing to change and, even if it doesn't address one particular problem, it will likely address a few other ones that person is likely to have.

PS: Plenty of skinny people have terrible fitness levels too. And plenty of chubby folks are in great shape. This is has nothing to do with being a "fat ass", it has to do with eating nutritiously and using your body as it was evolved to be used.

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Since: 18.3.02
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Wow...OK...go away for a day or two...and ???

Anyhow...I was diagnosed with sleep apnea and will be trying out a CPAP machine to see if it helps me get any rest.

To address anything else, and express my opinion:

• I do plan to eat better and get into better shape. Being diabetic, it's just a good idea, but:

• I have to be awake to exercise. If treating the symptoms gives me enough energy to start improving myself, I will be ecstatic.

• With some other tests, I'm so sleep deprived it turns out I'm almost clinically exhausted (whatever that means) and the auditory hallucinations are a side effect of being very, VERY, very tired.

I'd LOVE not to have to use any medications/devices and it's something that I hope to work towards. I think that emotions tend to run high for whichever side of the argument that you currently fall on and/or advocate.

I'll let you know how the CPAP works out for me, and if nothing else I'm sure I can use the mask to scare the crap out of my kids.
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Not to make light of a serious medical condition, but when I read the title of this thread I immediately thought it had something to do with this:

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