Originally posted by KevinKellyisFNHardcoreWhen I'm no longer able to sound off as I please about something I don't like then please feel free to shut the internet down. And come on, it's not like it takes a whole lot of time or energy to say what I say so don't pretend like I'm "wasting my life".
Respectfully... You're more than welcome to your opinon. That's the beauty of the internet. The real catch is that you've flogged the dead "KevinKellyisFNHardcore doesn't like Scott Keith" Horse about 15 times too many in this thread.
WE GET IT.
I'll say it again for clarity:
WE GET IT.
I think that's what people are trying to tell you. It's clear you don't like him. It would be nice for you to expend your energies and attention elsewhere now. You don't have to, but I would imagine you're going to continue receiving a lot of criticism as long as you continue to -- as I said before -- beat a dead horse.
See, that's perfectly reasonable and you're probably right. I think I have made my point, whatever that may have been.
I guess that this is just a sign of the poor state of the WWF that one of the most popular items of discussion lately is the net feud between the fat french guy from Rhode Island and the fat Canadian guy.
Why do most defenses of Scott Keith seem to be along the lines of "why are you wasting time criticizing a fairly wide read person?"
People show so much bitterness and bile about that particular individual; they can't help but share it with everyone. People have been levelling the same criticisms at Scott Keith since he started posting his rants on RSPW in the mid-nineties. He isn't going away. It's simply flabbergasting the number of people who feel the need to vent their rage at him when all they have to do is stop reading him and he won't bother them any more.
He doesn't come to anyone's house and make them read his column; one has to go to a site and read what he posts. There's no charge for reading it, nor does one have to give up anything but one's own time. So who's to blame if it upsets one? Scott for writing something and not running it by everyone first? Or for not changing his opinions when ``everyone obviously disagrees with him?'' Or one who reads him, for going out of one's way to read something when often times one knows one is not going to like it?
Ditto for Hyatte-haters. Part of being a grown up is recognizing things that make you angry or upset and either doing something about them, getting over them, or avoiding them where possible. Nobody here is going to make either writer go away. So the options are get over it or avoid it.
This thread is entitled ``Hyatte vs. Keith''. I for one thought that the title indicated it was a thread about the feud Hyatte started last week (and continued today), not a thread for everyone to ``weigh in'' with their opinion of who's the better writer or why one of them sucks.
I'm quite curious why Widro (or is it Ashish) is allowing it to go on, seeing as how both draw hits for the site. It's hard to believe Keith would take his ball and go home (especially after moving the whole of theSmarks.com to 411), but it's also hard to conceive of 411 firing Hyatte (they wouldn't have brought him back if there had been no demand). Maybe it's the simple fact that Hyatte will not be controlled, and maybe it will be his downfall.
Or maybe it's all a work ;)
/tarnish... I'm a disturbed and bitter herb, like salt water and parsley... -- Prince Paul
Okay, I have to respond. For those who don't know I am a friend of Chris and I have been telling him about the Keith stories. I am going to make this short since my stuff only should be in Hyattes column. It just isnt fair to give away all the juice. Anyway, for the person who said it is a work. Trust me, it isn't. Just wanted to clear that up. Have a good day CRZ.
I dunno if this has been pointed out because I don't read 70-post threads what with my medical condition of not giving a shit, but I gotta know: Why on earth would you bother registering a handle called RSPWFAQ when you probably haven't done crap with RSPW in years?
Also you should start posting at Delphi again. Everyone knows you're a fanboy of Seadawg's forum, you might as well jump in so we can throw peanuts at you.
Originally posted by DustinCaseHey folks, personally I hope the Hyatte vs Keith feud continues. The three of us all write for the same site, and I hope their fued continues to draw publicity to 411.
411 gets a considerable amount of hits anyway. Dustin, next time beg to have people actually read YOUR column. Hyatte and SK already have a core audience. Trying to ride their feud will probably get you flamed out of here. Just a bit of friendly advice for a new Wiener. Welcome!!!
The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it. I can fuck better than anybody who can fuck faster, and I can fuck faster than anybody who can fuck better.
Tin Man, I'm not trying to ride their fued. I'm just saying that two writers on the same site fueding creates a buzz for that site. There's no such thing as bad publicity, and the more attention that Hyatte and Keith attract, the more readers are attracted to 411. And that hurts none of us who write for 411. That's just the way I feel.
If I were riding the fued for hits I would put the fued in my column. You won't however see anything about the fued in my column.
I just happened to wonder upon this forum and saw this thread and decided to put my two cents in. And in my opinion our whole site benefits from attention it's getting from the fued.
Take this forum. Those who don't know of Hyatte or Keith are introduced to the fued because this forum has a whole thread about it. And that gives 411 a rub. so long live Hyatte vs Keith.
Peace kids. Check out Beyond The Ring on 411wrestling.com
There's no such thing as bad publicity, and the more attention that Hyatte and Keith attract, the more readers are attracted to 411. And that hurts none of us who write for 411.
I do believe I made that exact point at least once in this thread. Did you perchance read the thread? Or just respond to pimp your own column?
Not that I'd blame you if you did (it is 50+ posts long), but I'm calling you on it just the same.
And seeing as how you're here, perhaps you'd answer a question: despite the obvious publicity generation inherent to a feud between two guys on the same site, don't you wonder whether there are going to be serious ramifications? Like other columnists wondering who's next after Hyatte finishes with Keith? Or people leaving because they don't like that Widro's letting it go on? And do you think Keith is losing any cred ``with the boys'' of 411 by steadfastly refusing to fight back? Or are the Smarks a clique unto themselves?
Enquiring minds want to know.
(and psssst: ``feud'')
(edited by tarnish on 18.6.02 2005) /tarnish... I'm a disturbed and bitter herb, like salt water and parsley... -- Cleofis Randolph the Patriarch
*LOL* Wow, I misspelled feud every time I used it! Anyway, I honestly don't expect Keith to respond to Hyatte. It just doesn't seem his nature.
I'll take any pub my column can get, but really I just wanted to add a couple of pennies on this forum about Hyatte Vs Keith.
Just wanted to make a comment, funny how every new poster seems to want to make this about MY intentions. Honestly I'm new to forums. If I was supposed to give you credit for making the point that the feud is good for 411 from a publicity stand point I'm sorry.
As for the boys. I don't know how the rest of the writers feel about the feud because I don't interact with them. All I know is how I feel.
Peace kids. Check out Beyond The Ring on 411wrestling.com
Nup, credit wasn't what I was after. I was merely pointing out that coming into a thread, repeating something that's already been said, and then pimping yourself leaves you open to accusations that it was the pimping and not the contributing that was the point of your post.
Perhaps that is why your intentions were called into question.
Thank you for your responses to my questions.
/tarnish... I'm a disturbed and bitter herb, like salt water and parsley... -- Cleofis Randolph the Patriarch
Personally I don't think silly one sided "net feuds" add a thing to our site besides a bit of childishness and a little bit more dorkiness to a niche of the net that is already thought of as the measuring stick of dweebosity. Then again, what do I know.
(edited by Jay Bower on 18.6.02 2158) Jay Bower TheSmarks.com/A1wrestling.com
The first time I created an account for one of these threads involving me I used this screen name. Yes, it was that long ago. I like the irony.
I have been asked very kindly to tone it all down. Widro asked, then Ashish confirmed that Widro asked. I'm not going to say that someone actually WHINED or anything, but you are most welcome to read between the lines.
I really didn't have all that much left anyway. I did what I wanted to do, providing scads of stuff for people to goof on him with. I'm fairly sure Matt's story provided enough incite into him so people who read him will do a bit more snickering than usual... and not at his jokes.
Besides, Zed didn't see the point (like I really ever needed a "point" to do ANYTHING) and it made him feel "old". Lord knows we can't have that.
And Jay Bower used to take all my Mop-Ups and send them to me by e-mail, except he would replace every mention of my name with his. Why? No clue. I just ignored it. I guess he still holds a semi-grudge about that. Oh well, I think I can plod on without his support.
Finally, the Scotsman *I* know would NEVER rush to ANYONE'S defense. Quick, re-open the Wrestling Uncensored board and let's get that "send fake news to top reporters and see who bites" bit back up and running.
Read, respond, rage, goof, or let this be the capper to this thread. It's more or less over. There are no winners here, except ME!!! and anyone who got a kick out of this. That's all I care about, really
Wow, look at all the CRAZY people this thread attracted.
Hey, if I had KNOWN you were Booty Raper, I'd have never banned you! But, see, you put Widro's AIM in your profile and I knew you weren't Widro (since I asked him) so I was just trying to be a nice guy.
By the way, how are the 411 boards if you (and Scott and Jay and umm the other guy) have to slum over here?
Say, did I ever tell you what happened to the nwwwo.com domain name after the guy who bought it after Sean let it expire?
As some of you are aware (sorry 'bout that), one of our writers at Lethal, Jun Bakon, does a semi-regular feature called "Fun with Forums." It's harmless, more than anything an homage to SA's Weekend Web specific to wrestling.