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The list is at: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-09-221A5.pdf (Thanks, B&C (broadcastingcable.com)!)

Looks like only one of our majors is still changing over in a week - our CW station. (A lot of repeaters around the state, too, but they're not local to ME, so I don't care as much.)


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I thought I had saw the date was moved back to June 2009 to give the government a chance to catch up on these coupons?
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    Originally posted by CajunMan
    I thought I had saw the date was moved back to June 2009 to give the government a chance to catch up on these coupons?
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It seems odd that the more smaller markets seem to be the ones changing over on 2/17, while the larger areas, where cable is more abundant, (New York, LA, Chicago, Minneapolis, etc.) are not. So the entire debate over "people in places without cable are unprepared, so we should push the deadline back" is moot.

As I've said in a few different places, Congress just wanted to be able to say "it wasn't my fault".

People in markets changing over on 2/17, be prepared to be even more annoyed in the coming days. The crawls will be coming 5x an hour Today until Monday, when they'll be 10x an hour in addition to the stuff you already been seeing everywhere.



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    Originally posted by Zundian
    It seems odd that the more smaller markets seem to be the ones changing over on 2/17, while the larger areas, where cable is more abundant, (New York, LA, Chicago, Minneapolis, etc.) are not. So the entire debate over "people in places without cable are unprepared, so we should push the deadline back" is moot.


I noticed this as well. Champaign/Springfield, IL is losing all but CBS/MyNetwork and PBS, while St. Louis is just losing ABC. Crazy. It may have to do with the cost of running both transmitters an additional few months, though the big market stations are hardly in a financial position to absorb this hit either. Just better than the little guys, I guess.

(edited by PeterStork on 11.2.09 0825)


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    Originally posted by PeterStork


    I noticed this as well. Champaign/Springfield, IL is losing all but CBS/MyNetwork and PBS, while St. Louis is just losing ABC. Crazy. It may have to do with the cost of running both transmitters an additional few months, though the big market stations are hardly in a financial position to absorb this hit either. Just better than the little guys, I guess.

    (edited by PeterStork on 11.2.09 0825)


I would think it has to be something like that. Though I thought that I had read that the FCC still had the prerogative to deny some of these early changeovers if it wasn't in the public interest. Then I see that basically all of my networks are changing on the 17th. (I get Fox, ABC, and CBS from Binghamton, NY, and NBC from Syracuse)



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In the previous transition thread, I believe I posted this:

An article I read in the WashPost said that stations in DC said that it costs about $25,000-$30,000 a month just in electric bills to keep transmitting.



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My local network channels are switching over on the 17th. I just hope that the scrawl will disappear that day. I mean telling people that are able to watch it that they are switching is stupid. Of course they will under the better safe than sorry principal.



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Considering that we are pretty well, rural, to get TV at all out here (Ok, well there's a really grainy CBS retransmitter) even with an analog tv you need cable or sat anyway. Portland is way more likely to have people "going black" than we are out here.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.04
    Originally posted by Dahak
    My local network channels are switching over on the 17th. I just hope that the scrawl will disappear that day. I mean telling people that are able to watch it that they are switching is stupid. Of course they will under the better safe than sorry principal.


You may not want to watch broadcast TV on Monday or Tuesday, as the crawls are required to run every 6 minutes all day and night. They will go away at Midnight 2/18 though. I know we're playing a DVD on our analog transmitter for another two weeks that basically says "Your TV doesn't receive broadcast signals anymore, please go buy a converter box to receive transmissions again" and I just know we'll have people calling and asking what that means.

I'm so glad I was able to take next week off. (2/17 is also my wedding anniversary!)



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    Originally posted by Zundian
    You may not want to watch broadcast TV on Monday or Tuesday, as the crawls are required to run every 6 minutes all day and night. They will go away at Midnight 2/18 though.
Oh, joy. I can't wait for that fun. Meanwhile, it looks like all of ours are deferring. So we get another 4 months of the now-standard crawl, updated to "June 17..."
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    Originally posted by PeterStork
      Originally posted by Zundian
      It seems odd that the more smaller markets seem to be the ones changing over on 2/17, while the larger areas, where cable is more abundant, (New York, LA, Chicago, Minneapolis, etc.) are not. So the entire debate over "people in places without cable are unprepared, so we should push the deadline back" is moot.


    I noticed this as well. Champaign/Springfield, IL is losing all but CBS/MyNetwork and PBS, while St. Louis is just losing ABC. Crazy. It may have to do with the cost of running both transmitters an additional few months, though the big market stations are hardly in a financial position to absorb this hit either. Just better than the little guys, I guess.

    (edited by PeterStork on 11.2.09 0825)



I'm guessing the reason for the larger markets not switching is that those markets would also have a greater number of economically struggling people who have not received the voucher from the government to get a better deal on the converter box. Plus, once it switches over and they lose those viewers, ratings go down. What is the difference between February 17 and June 17: The conclusion of 1 rating book and the entire May ratings book. Whether people watch TV in the summer is of no real consequence, and most viewers would have the converter by the time the Fall premieres and November ratings come around.
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Plus, once it switches over and they lose those viewers, ratings go down.
Which is why they moved sweeps to March, so that the 14 or so percent who didn't know about the change would be caught up by then.

If they wanted to set a date AND give wiggle room for a setback they should've tried mid May. But since this is the first time in history that more than eighty percent are informed on anything, there's little reason not to change now.

Hawaii has more than its share of low income families as well as the elderly, and we switched last month.



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And on Wednesday 123 stations were told that they wouldn't be able to turn off on 2/17. They have until today to prove a good public interest in them turning off.

The list of those 123 is at http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-09-7A2.pdf .
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