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According to the Smackdown spoilers at 1bob.com, McMahon has made the Triple H/Chris Jericho match at the PPV into a Hell in the Cell match.
I guess he thought Hogan vs. Undertaker would be so weak, he needed a big blowoff match to go along with it. Well, so be it: I'm definitely more interested now. I love the HITC gimmick, and these two guys are going to destroy each other.
We've never really seen Jericho in such a brutal match. Do you think he'll take some crazy bumps, or will it mostly be on Triple H's shoulders to carry the match?



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Gee, who do you think is going to have to take the fall in this match. Only way our hero and uncrowned champion Y2J has a hope in hell here is if this is where Vince hits the big red panic button and busts out Steiner or Goldberg to come in and take out HHH.

Though if HHH must win as it is most likely he will, I say set the ring up like with Foley/HHH, and have the final spot be a pedigree from on top of the cage, through some breakaway fencing, and down onto a rigged part of the ring. It would be a great visual, and if they set it up right, not particularly dangerous to either guy.



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    Originally posted by spf2119
    Gee, who do you think is going to have to take the fall in this match. Only way our hero and uncrowned champion Y2J has a hope in hell here is if this is where Vince hits the big red panic button and busts out Steiner or Goldberg to come in and take out HHH.

    Though if HHH must win as it is most likely he will, I say set the ring up like with Foley/HHH, and have the final spot be a pedigree from on top of the cage, through some breakaway fencing, and down onto a rigged part of the ring. It would be a great visual, and if they set it up right, not particularly dangerous to either guy.



Most amusing was Meltzer's comment that HHH would have to get his win back from that Smackdown match...as if the whole Wrestlemania X-8 debacle never happened.



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Even if Jericho doesn't get the win, HITC isn't really known for who wins, but for who takes the big bumps. Anyone want to guess who that will be? Jericho will come out of this better off than when he went in, win or lose.



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Statements like these make me glad I'm not a wrestler:

    Though if HHH must win as it is most likely he will, I say set the ring up like with Foley/HHH, and have the final spot be a pedigree from on top of the cage, through some breakaway fencing, and down onto a rigged part of the ring. It would be a great visual, and if they set it up right, not particularly dangerous to either guy.


``Not particularly dangerous''?!@#@#%

Lessee, you want me to put my head between your legs, then you'll jump up and, as we come down, the fence below us will `break away', so we'll fall 10-15 feet to a wrestling ring that's been gimmicked to collapse, where we'll land comfortably and everything will be okay.

Um. No.

Foley's three huge HitC bumps were back bumps. Muuuuuuch safer, if'n I'm not mistaken. Jericho would likely be protected if the fence at the top of the cage didn't break. But that 10 foot drop leaves all kinds of possibilities for badness, especially where HHH is going to be prone to being thrown off kilter by his knees making contact with the cage top and Jericho absolutely not in control of his center of gravity. HHH has always been excellent at protecting other workers during the pedigree, but considering I've never seen him even try it off the top or even second rope, I'm thinking he's got to have a reasonably controlled situation. Hell in the Cell ain't it
Mind you everybody's always talking about wrestlers ``raising the bar,'' so who's to say Jericho's not dumb enough to be the next Canadian to die in a wrestling ring before his time?



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    Originally posted by spf2119

    Though if HHH must win as it is most likely he will, I say set the ring up like with Foley/HHH, and have the final spot be a pedigree from on top of the cage, through some breakaway fencing, and down onto a rigged part of the ring. It would be a great visual, and if they set it up right, not particularly dangerous to either guy.



That would be one hell of a cool spot. I would mark out if that happened! I'm a HHH fan but i want to see Jericho win this match. He needs to go over HHH here.




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    Originally posted by astrobstrd
    Even if Jericho doesn't get the win, HITC isn't really known for who wins, but for who takes the big bumps. Anyone want to guess who that will be? Jericho will come out of this better off than when he went in, win or lose.


After sustaining how much bodily injury?



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    Originally posted by Sean

      Originally posted by astrobstrd
      Even if Jericho doesn't get the win, HITC isn't really known for who wins, but for who takes the big bumps. Anyone want to guess who that will be? Jericho will come out of this better off than when he went in, win or lose.


    After sustaining how much bodily injury?



True, but it HAS been awhile since the WW...E ugh, had a truly violent "Big-spot" fest like this. The last one I can think of was the RVD/Hardy Ladder match at SummerSlam. It's not like when they were having TLC and cage matches every few weeks. 2 or 3 of these a year is fine.



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We've never really seen Jericho in such a brutal match

He`s had TWO Last Man Standing matches, multiple cage matches, a TLC match, ladder matches... we`ve seen Jericho in some damn brutal matches before.



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I'm not sure if this match is good in the long run for Jericho. Having seen how Jericho/HHH have been in the past, I doubt Jericho will win clean. Now winning clean isn't important if Jericho gets in good offense during the course of the match. With that said, and seeing how HHH has interacted with Jericho in the past, I do not see HHH giving Jericho enough offense to make him get over better.

The ideal thing is HHH starts off strong, but Jericho cheats like a mofo to gain the advantage. The finish comes in with Angle helping Jericho win, and the duo of Jericho and Angle attack HHH. Hogan would then do a run-in, clearing the heels out. This now gives Jericho a reason to attack Hogan in the main, getting the Title off Hogan. Hogan then goes to Smackdown to put Jericho over and finally get him over as the top tier heel, and HHH squares off with Angle, and his new pissed off attitude. To add something else in, Edge's win gives him the #1 spot against Taker and do the build to him getting his first Title shot (which he will win). Doing this gives you three angles for Smackdown, hopefully fixing the extreme problems with it right now.



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If Taker beats Hogan for the title, wouldn't Hogan take Taker's place on the RAW roster?
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#12 Posted on

    Originally posted by astrobstrd
    Even if Jericho doesn't get the win, HITC isn't really known for who wins, but for who takes the big bumps. Anyone want to guess who that will be? Jericho will come out of this better off than when he went in, win or lose.


The problem is, that logic doesn't apply to Rikishi in December 2000. Although to be fair, that match was a mess with too many people involved, not to mention the fact that everyone had to watch Vince trying to tear down the cage, effectively killing the flow of the match.

And it doesn't apply to Feb 2000 either. Again, Mick Foley took the big bump. But HHH came out the star in that one.

I guess I'm in the same camp that thinks HHH is going to win. At least, that's what everything in the past points to....

On the plus side, should this match gander enough interest, then there is hard evidence that Stephanie was NOT needed to "save" this match up back at wrestlemania.....



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Just too add on:

In TLC 3, when he was tag champs with Benoit, Jericho took one of the SICKEST, LOUDEST chairshots I have EVER seen and heard from Christian, I believe.

I'm just hoping he won't be too heavily injured after this match. I'm concerned since there was the one accident that could have very well killed Mick Foley right there on the spot.


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    Originally posted by chazworthington

      Originally posted by astrobstrd
      Even if Jericho doesn't get the win, HITC isn't really known for who wins, but for who takes the big bumps. Anyone want to guess who that will be? Jericho will come out of this better off than when he went in, win or lose.


    The problem is, that logic doesn't apply to Rikishi in December 2000. Although to be fair, that match was a mess with too many people involved, not to mention the fact that everyone had to watch Vince trying to tear down the cage, effectively killing the flow of the match.

    And it doesn't apply to Feb 2000 either. Again, Mick Foley took the big bump. But HHH came out the star in that one.

    I guess I'm in the same camp that thinks HHH is going to win. At least, that's what everything in the past points to....

    On the plus side, should this match gander enough interest, then there is hard evidence that Stephanie was NOT needed to "save" this match up back at wrestlemania.....



Those two are special cases, though. The six man was too confusing for anybody to get over... and NWO 2000 was(at the time) Foley's farewell match, and thus designed to make the guy who was going to remain active look better.



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    Those two are special cases, though. The six man was too confusing for anybody to get over... and NWO 2000 was(at the time) Foley's farewell match, and thus designed to make the guy who was going to remain active look better.


Also, the fact that Rikishi's bump was obviously fake. Not that falling that high and especially at close to 375 pounds isn't impressive, but when you into a bed a styrofoam peanuts, you won't get the same kind of support Foley and Michaels did from the average fan.



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    Also, the fact that Rikishi's bump was obviously fake. Not that falling that high and especially at close to 375 pounds isn't impressive, but when you into a bed a styrofoam peanuts, you won't get the same kind of support Foley and Michaels did from the average fan.


Maybe so but Rikishi's splash off of the cage on Venius was VERY impressive. That was the best feud that either of these men have been in.

As for HITC bumps, Foley's dives against Taker pretty much killed the old Mick Foley. His body was never the same after those bumps.



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I can't get that excited about this. I just don't think that these two have very good matches. I think it is well known they don't care for each other so maybe they just don't help each other out in the ring.

As far as it being a HITC, the last one I saw just had a fat guy fall on some hay so I think the days of guys going through the roof of the cage are over.




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As for Jericho being in brutal matches, let's not forget his Hardcore Title match with Rob Van Dam from Unforgiven 2001 last september.




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And to those who say Jericho has no chance... take this fact to heart.

Aside from the Big Bossman/Undertaker farce at WM XV (which doesn't deserve to be counted in the legacy), the heel lost in the HITC only once out of the four times it's happened (the UT/Mankind one from KOTR 1998) and that one time, the heel benefited majorly from the match despite the job.

Of course, this is Jean-Paul Levesque (Public Enemy #1 to all Jerichoholics) we're talking about, so I'm prepared to be disappointed, but I think Jericho's winning this one, guys. H'er Boy still owes him a huge debt for doing two huge PPV jobs, one the Smackdown job doesn't pay back.



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TK: This is HHH we're talking about. Hell, he had to take out the entire main event with a sledgehammer after his loss to D'von and beatdown by the job squad this evening. Jericho has only 2 chances to win this match, and their names are Goldberg or Steiner. If Vince busts out one of them at the end, then Jericho gets the Shawn Michaels style win from when Kane debuted. Otherwise, the match ends the way anything involving the big-nosed bastard always ends seemingly...with him on top.



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