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Since: 20.6.02
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#41 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.82
Here's an eye-opener! It came before the 21st century, but it's still a shock to see what essentially used to be Ron Paul: Racial Bigot. From the National Report, a LONG article, but I'll quote the most outrageous:


    Martin Luther King Jr. earned special ire from Paul's newsletters, which attacked the civil rights leader frequently, often to justify opposition to the federal holiday named after him. ("What an infamy Ronald Reagan approved it!" one newsletter complained in 1990. "We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey Day.") In the early 1990s, a newsletter attacked the "X-Rated Martin Luther King" as a "world-class philanderer who beat up his paramours," "seduced underage girls and boys," and "made a pass at" fellow civil rights leader Ralph Abernathy. One newsletter ridiculed black activists who wanted to rename New York City after King, suggesting that "Welfaria," "Zooville," "Rapetown," "Dirtburg," and "Lazyopolis" were better alternatives. The same year, King was described as "a comsymp, if not an actual party member, and the man who replaced the evil of forced segregation with the evil of forced integration."

    While bashing King, the newsletters had kind words for the former Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, David Duke. In a passage titled "The Duke's Victory," a newsletter celebrated Duke's 44 percent showing in the 1990 Louisiana Republican Senate primary. "Duke lost the election," it said, "but he scared the blazes out of the Establishment." In 1991, a newsletter asked, "Is David Duke's new prominence, despite his losing the gubernatorial election, good for anti-big government forces?" The conclusion was that "our priority should be to take the anti-government, anti-tax, anti-crime, anti-welfare loafers, anti-race privilege, anti-foreign meddling message of Duke, and enclose it in a more consistent package of freedom." Duke is now returning the favor, telling me that, while he will not formally endorse any candidate, he has made information about Ron Paul available on his website.


Again, this all came in the 90's, but that's not the sort of thing that just goes away...and something I'd imagine that half of Paul's supporters aren't even aware of.




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#42 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
His reply can be found here. (ronpaul2008.com)
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#43 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.17
Kirchick wins awards for not researching. Kind of like O'Reilly having 3 million viewers for being dumb. Modern Journalism

GO HILLARY GO! The benefits of Bill campaigning for you! *This* is what Al Gore should have known

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Since: 2.1.02
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#44 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
(Disclaimer: I wouldn't have voted for Ron Paul anyway -- although I kinda liked him -- so feel free to ignore this or whatever.)

I heard about this a month or two ago and dismissed it; Paul's explanation was good enough and I accepted it. But at the time, I was under the impression that it was an isolated instance. This article in The New Republic (although I'm not familiar with them) cites some pretty racist & homophobic stuff that was printed over the course of four or five years, from 1990-1994 or so.

Four years is a long time to not have any idea what a newsletter bearing your name is saying. I just can't accept "I should have been paying closer attention" as an excuse.

Ron Paul's issued statement from his site says, "The quotations in The New Republic article are not mine and do not represent what I believe or have ever believed." If he means all the quotations (not just the racist & homophobic ones) -- he doesn't specify -- that covers about 17 years of allowing his newsletter to print stuff he now denounces.

If he did know, that's pretty bad. If he didn't know -- for four or five or seventeen years -- that's still pretty bad.

So, yeah. He says a fair amount of stuff that I agree with, but a lot of stuff I really don't, too. And then, when I was poking around the internet "researching" this, I found this quote from him in a June 2007 interview in Salon (salon.com):
    Originally posted by Ron Paul
    "We quadrupled the TSA, you know, and hired more people who look more suspicious to me than most Americans who are getting checked," he says. "Most of them are, well, you know, they just don't look very American to me."
And, wow. Maybe he's just got a weird sense of humor, but I have to file that under "things I really don't."

--K

(edited by Karlos the Jackal on 9.1.08 0237)


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#45 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.02
It is always wonderful when every pollster and pundit falls flat on their face. This might be a blood war on the Democratic side now, and hopefully Edwards stays in because if can just slide along at 15%-18% as the anti-Clinton/Obama vote, then perhaps neither of the top 2 candidates will have 50%+1 delegate and a free-for-all happens. God how I miss the old 2/3 rule.
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Since: 11.7.02
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#46 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
You know, given Paul's problems, you'd think that his hangers-on would be a little more careful with their suggestions...

(edited by Grimis on 9.1.08 2025)

EDIT: Re-fixed your HTML



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#47 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
    Originally posted by Grimis
    You know, given Paul's problems, you'd think that his hangers-on would be a little more careful with their suggestions...
You know, only Dr. Paul could throw Grimis in league with The New Republic.

Instead of worrying about them using a perfectly crumulent word like "blitzkrieg" (who was also a fine luchador, if I recall - except HE couldn't spell to save his life) you might want to be offended by instructions like "Remember that yard signs mounted from a ladder are there to stay, they are harder to tear down." Because...nobody else owns ladders!!!

And then there's this: "While these signs look like the official ones, at the bottom it clearly states that these are not authorized by the campaign. The advantage is that if some of your aggressive youthful supporters post signs on the state right of way or in violation of a very restrictive city ordnance, the official campaign and their lawyers do not have to deal with the harassment of city bureaucrats." [Emphasis mine - Grimis would probably like to reply at this point with some sort of inference that "aggressive youthful supporters" is probably just code for "Hitler youth" so maybe I can save all of us another post by going ahead and saying it now.]

EDIT: Fixed your HTML

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#48 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.29
If they ever do a movie about Obama they sure better put the Rock in there as the lead actor, it would also be nice to see Obama start using the slogan, 'If you smell what Barak is cookin.'
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#49 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.17
All things considered, I'd rather have Chuck Norris. Or Val Venis and Kane, for that matter

2004 Dem nominee Kerry endorsing Obama

Click Here (news.yahoo.com)

Once a jerk, always a jerk

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#50 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.29
Poor John Edwards is being hung out to dry.
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#51 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
    Originally posted by Grimis
    You know, given Paul's problems, you'd think that his hangers-on would be a little more careful with their suggestions...

    (edited by Grimis on 9.1.08 2025)

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    (edited by CRZ on 9.1.08 2247)


What I would like them to do is not suggest another annoying "march" on my World of Warcraft server, yet I hear that's exactly what is being planned. It was annoying enough the first time. Let me play my game in peace.
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#52 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
    Originally posted by RYDER FAKIN
    All things considered, I'd rather have Chuck Norris. Or Val Venis and Kane, for that matter

    2004 Dem nominee Kerry endorsing Obama

    Click Here (news.yahoo.com)

    Once a jerk, always a jerk

    FLEA



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#53 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.79
An endorsement from Bush would pretty much kill any of the Republican candidates' chances in the general election, so I'm not sure why Kerry is suddenly a black cat tossed in front of Obama's path. There was an interesting post on Daily Kos about how Obama's biggest gain from this endorsement is Kerry's internet donor list.





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