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Since: 11.7.02
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
Is such invective really necessary?

Columbia Prof Calls for Deaths of American Troops


(edited by Grimis on 31.3.03 0819)


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"America may have some problems, but it's our home. Our team. And if you don't wanna root for your team...then you should get the hell out of the stadium. Go America." --Stan Marsh, South Park

It wouldn't be a national crisis without some leftist wacko saying something so blatantly treasonous...kinda like that letter-to-the-editor in Friday's USA Today from some lady in Washington calling our troops "cowards" and "saluting" the Iraqi people, who had "only international law and pride" on their side. (Honey, Saddam's broken just about every damn law you can think of.)

God bless America and the right to free speech. Now say hello to my little friend! (insert "fire extinguisher to face" spot here)



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Since: 17.6.02
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    Reported on FoxNews.com
    De Genova's hopes for the defeat of the United States were cheered by the crowd of 3,000, according to newspaper reports. But his mention of the Somali ambush -- "I personally would like to see a million Mogadishus" -- was largely met with silence.
Wow. People cheered the U.S. defeat, but stayed quiet about the Mogadishu incident. We got a mixed crowd here, or what?



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#4 Posted on

    Originally posted by The Great Thomas
    Wow. People cheered the U.S. defeat, but stayed quiet about the Mogadishu incident. We got a mixed crowd here, or what?
Maybe they weren't smart enough to know what Mogadishu was and it was a "duh?" silence.

Me personally, I think the problem with our Bill of Rights is the Freedom of Speech wasn't immediately followed up with a complementary Freedom from Stupidity.

Which brings to mind the other famous quote (which I've always meant to stick somewhere prominently on W), "I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to shut the hell up."



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Since: 11.7.02
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    Originally posted by CRZ
    Which brings to mind the other famous quote (which I've always meant to stick somewhere prominently on W), "I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to shut the hell up."

Gotta love the Voltaire...even if he was French.



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Since: 6.1.02
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De Genovas particular expertise on the subject of the war in Iraq is not clear. His dissertation, entitled "Working the Boundaries, Making the Difference: Race and Space in Mexican Chicago," explores "socio-cultural processes "implicated in the mutually constitutive productions of racialized difference and urban space in the experiences of Mexican migrant factory workers in Chicago," according to a Stanford University Web site.

"De Genovas research posits a Mexican Chicago as a standpoint of critique from which to interrogate the U.S. nation-state, political economy, racialized citizenship, and immigration law," said the site.


God Bless academia. Where else we would we learn about mutually constitutive productions of racialized difference?

My 19-year old brother came up to visit the other day, and couldn't understand why my wife and I (both liberal arts grads from a large left-wing campus) cracked up for 10 minutes upon hearing "yeah, in my Working Women and the Law class..."






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#7 Posted on

    Originally posted by MoeGates
    De Genovas particular expertise on the subject of the war in Iraq is not clear. His dissertation, entitled "Working the Boundaries, Making the Difference: Race and Space in Mexican Chicago," explores "socio-cultural processes "implicated in the mutually constitutive productions of racialized difference and urban space in the experiences of Mexican migrant factory workers in Chicago," according to a Stanford University Web site.

    "De Genovas research posits a Mexican Chicago as a standpoint of critique from which to interrogate the U.S. nation-state, political economy, racialized citizenship, and immigration law," said the site.


    God Bless academia. Where else we would we learn about mutually constitutive productions of racialized difference?

    My 19-year old brother came up to visit the other day, and couldn't understand why my wife and I (both liberal arts grads from a large left-wing campus) cracked up for 10 minutes upon hearing "yeah, in my Working Women and the Law class..."





If you thought that was funny, then you should read 'The Lecturer's Tale' by James Hynes; especially if you like dark humor. It's a really funny satire of academia. The more familiar you are with academia, the funnier it will be (especially for anyone in grad school). I am an adjunct faculty member so some parts made me laugh, but wince with recognition at the same time.
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Isn't this why we have such a thing as academia? To put wackos like this somewhere they can't bite others and infect them with their bull-fruit weirdness?








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Since: 11.7.02
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    Originally posted by Enojado Viento
    Isn't this why we have such a thing as academia? To put wackos like this somewhere they can't bite others and infect them with their bull-fruit weirdness

Unfortunately, places like California and Massachusetts refuse to cooperate and send them to Congress....



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    Originally posted by Enojado Viento
    Isn't this why we have such a thing as academia? To put wackos like this somewhere they can't bite others and infect them with their bull-fruit weirdness?






It's kept Noam Chomsky in diapers.....



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It looks like some folks haven't quite wrapped their grammar skills around that "defend to the death" phrase. Courtesy of the bastion of journalistic integrity - The NY Post.

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"Nearly a week after Columbia University professor Nicholas De Genova called for the mass slaughter of U.S. troops, the man who wants "a million Mogadishus" fears so much for his own life he is refusing to go to class."





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That motherfucker should be in fear. I want a picture of his worthless ass to mail to every Ranger in the tri-state area.

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Wow, calling for his death really makes you sound imminently more rational.

Just another example of some wacko who makes all of us liberals look bad, and provides more fodder for stereotyping and prejudice.



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    Originally posted by commie_050
    Wow, calling for his death really makes you sound imminently more rational.

    Just another example of some wacko who makes all of us liberals look bad, and provides more fodder for stereotyping and prejudice.



Given that this professor indirectly called for Jake's death, I think he's excused. Imagine if your immediate family was murdered, and then some professor advocated that we execute your extended family, too. Similar circumstances.



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    Originally posted by commie_050
    Wow, calling for his death really makes you sound imminently more rational.

    Just another example of some wacko who makes all of us liberals look bad, and provides more fodder for stereotyping and prejudice.



Keep in mind he never called for his death. Those are your words. Perhaps the photograph was so that each and every Ranger could buy him ice cream when they saw him.

Maybe it was so they could get his autograph.

Or maybe, it was just so they could express THEIR freedom of speech and let this guy know how they feel about his comments when they see him.

Perhaps you should rethink your characterization - it appears that you have a stereotype of military people that you should think twice about.



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    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    Keep in mind he never called for his death.

I tend to think that "1,000 Mogadishus" would in fact constitute calling for the death of he and thousands of other US troops.


    Originally posted by HomerJFong
    It looks like some folks haven't quite wrapped their grammar skills around that "defend to the death" phrase.

Just because you have the right to say something does not mean that there are not potential consequences for doing so. Not advocating anythig bad happen to this schmuck, but remember that people like MLK, RFK, and George Wallace were assassinated for speaking their minds.




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#17 Posted on

    Originally posted by Grimis

      Originally posted by Guru Zim
      Keep in mind he never called for his death.

    I tend to think that "1,000 Mogadishus" would in fact constitute calling for the death of he and thousands of other US troops.



Methinks he was referring to the professor's death, not the 1000 Mogadishus.



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    Just because you have the right to say something does not mean that there are not potential consequences for doing so. Not advocating anythig bad happen to this schmuck, but remember that people like MLK, RFK, and George Wallace were assassinated for speaking their minds.



Quite frankly, MLK, RFK, and George Wallace were politicians, and this man is a teacher. MLK, RFK, and yes, even Wallace thought they were doing what's best for their country (key words, thought, and I mean that for all 3.) More importantly, the media would listen to them regardless of what they said.

This Professor, however, had to use shock value to garner a bit of attention, even though the thought of 1,000 dead soldiers, Mogadishan, American, Iraqi, Israeli, British, Russian, French, or Swahili is based of the general thought of 1,000 dead. The real question, I put to you, is what kind of man is it that has the capacity of will to find the death of 1,000 acceptible, and how can any man like this be considered an academic?



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"America may have some problems, but it's our home. Our team. And if you don't wanna root for your team...then you should get the hell out of the stadium. Go America." --Stan Marsh, South Park


    Originally posted by Jakegnosis
    That motherfucker should be in fear. I want a picture of his worthless ass to mail to every Ranger in the tri-state area.

    "Why are all those crazy-looking guys with high-and-tights hanging out outside my house...?"



One word: HUA!
(Or is it "Hooah?" Dammit, my Ranger drill sergeant never did give me a straight answer.)

Even a li'l ol retired 31U like me knows better than to screw with an Airborne Ranger.



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#20 Posted on

    Originally posted by Grimis

      Originally posted by Guru Zim
      Keep in mind he never called for his death.

    I tend to think that "1,000 Mogadishus" would in fact constitute calling for the death of he and thousands of other US troops.


      Originally posted by HomerJFong
      It looks like some folks haven't quite wrapped their grammar skills around that "defend to the death" phrase.

    Just because you have the right to say something does not mean that there are not potential consequences for doing so. Not advocating anythig bad happen to this schmuck, but remember that people like MLK, RFK, and George Wallace were assassinated for speaking their minds.



I probably shouldn't have used "he" but referenced the poster, not the professor. Jakegnosis didn't directly call for the death of the professor, so the following response railing on him was out of line.



Willful ignorance of science is not commendable. Refusing to learn the difference between a credible source and a shill is criminally stupid.
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