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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.17
So I had actually never really played blackjack before about two months ago, when a few friends and I went to a casino here and played and got drunk. I was ignorant of the rules - I didn't know what double down was and didn't know about insurance - and went prepared to lose the $80 I brought, and proceeded to do so.

I went back a second time about a month later, sometime in mid-June, a little more determined to understand the game and try and win some money. I lost $50.

So down $130, I of course decided to go again, bringing another $100 or so. To provide some perspective, my monthly salary is $1000.

I win a decent amount and am up about $300 when I decide to start playing three hands. I win a few, get more cushion, and decide to play three hands at $100 each, the table maximum. Here is how they were dealt (I actually asked the dealer to pause and let me write this down quickly, because I wanted to document what will certainly be the greatest victory I ever see in a casino; she obliged because I was the only one at the table):

The dealer is showing a four.

The first hand is dealt blackjack. I win $150.

The second hand is dealt a pair of aces. I split, and the first hand is dealt a jack. The second hand is dealt another ace, and I again split. The second ace is dealt a seven. The third ace dealt another ace and I again split! The third ace is dealt a four. The fourth ace is dealt a five. I now have $400 at stake in this hand.

The third hand is dealt a pair of eights, and I again split. The first eight is dealt a three, and I double down. I am dealt a nine. The second eight is dealt another eight and I again split. I have to borrow chips from friends to do so, but I assure them it's a good bet, though I'm terrified about losing this much money. Anyway, the second eight is dealt a two and I again double down. Again, borrowing from friends. The hand is dealt an ace. The third eight is dealt a three and I again double down! I'm lucky my friends have enough chips this time. The hand is dealt a six. I now have $600 at stake in this hand and $1000 overall ($1100 including the hand that was dealt blackjack). It's all up to the dealer:

Showing a four she draws a seven, which is terrifying. Then a five, then ... a queen! Dealer busts! And I win $1150.

In hindsight, I am an idiot for betting $1000 dollars on blackjack, as I absolutely, positively cannot afford it. But dammit, I won!
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.78
Congratulations on your win. I have had sick runs like that before, but I've gotta caution you on one point:

You were clearly playing without any sort of set bankroll or strategy in place. You got lucky. You put your entire stack on the line in one hand and won.

"I am an idiot for betting $1000 dollars on blackjack, as I absolutely, positively cannot afford it."

Bingo. You didn't go in there with any more understanding of the game than before because you fell right into the Casino's trap.

Be careful. Don't bet more than you can afford, because if the dealer had spiked the ten, we would have never heard about this and you'd be feeling pretty low. I speak from experience, gamble within your means.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.17
    Originally posted by cfgb
    Congratulations on your win. I have had sick runs like that before, but I've gotta caution you on one point:

    You were clearly playing without any sort of set bankroll or strategy in place. You got lucky. You put your entire stack on the line in one hand and won.


You are of course right that I got lucky, as does anyone who wins any significant amount of money in a casino game playing against the house. But it's not because I didn't have a strategy in place, it's more like it's because I DID have a strategy in place.

I played all the hands according to textbook optimal blackjack strategy. "Always double down when you have 10 or 11 and the dealer shows three through six," would be a rule I've been playing with. And you always split aces and eights, that's what every blackjack strategy Web site I've stumbled across has said.

I couldn't afford to lose, so ultimately it was a stupid bet and I got lucky, but it wasn't a fluke. I'm not usually so reckless with my money at casinos, but that situation presented just about the best odds someone can hope for on a blackjack table.

Or so I've been led to believe by the Internet, which has never steered me wrong before. :)
Super Shane Spear
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.59
    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    (I actually asked the dealer to pause and let me write this down quickly, because I wanted to document what will certainly be the greatest victory I ever see in a casino; she obliged because I was the only one at the table):


This is the craziest part of the story. If you even THINK about a pen in a Arizona casino, you're ejecto.



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Zeruel
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by TheBucsFan

    I played all the hands according to textbook optimal blackjack strategy. "Always double down when you have 10 or 11 and the dealer shows three through six," would be a rule I've been playing with. And you always split aces and eights, that's what every blackjack strategy Web site I've stumbled across has said.


Everything I've read says to ALWAYS DD 11, DD 10 if the dealer has 9-2, and DD 9 if the dealer has 6-3.

Yes, ALWAYS split aces and 8s, never split face cards. It's not worth the risk in the long run if you split your 20 and end up with two 16 hands. That would suck.

15, 16, 17, surrender if the dealer shows an ace.

NEVER buy insurance. The house advantage on it doesn't make it worth it.

I always play single deck because even though it pays 6-5 on BJ, I hit it more often than 6 or 8 deck. One night at Terrible's Casino in Vegas just off the strip, I found a $5 3-2 single deck table and I hit BJ 8 times in 2 hours. I know it was 8 times because I had that many 50 cents pieces on the table. Later, I moved to a 8 deck shoe to play with a buddy of mine. Neither one of us hit BJ in about 45 mins. I left the 1st table $50 up, and I broke even at the 2nd one.

I never play at the new tables they had at TI where the 8 decks are in constant shuffle and all the used cards are thrown back in to be reshuffled. I never tried to ever count cards, but I just don't like that there is a constant reshuffle. It bothers me for some reason.

I've lost money on every casino game except for BJ. I'm ahead and at last count, I'm $180.50 up in just BJ games. I haven't tried poker out there, yet.

(edited by Zeruel on 6.8.09 2158)


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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.74
    Originally posted by Zeruel
      Originally posted by TheBucsFan

      I played all the hands according to textbook optimal blackjack strategy. "Always double down when you have 10 or 11 and the dealer shows three through six," would be a rule I've been playing with. And you always split aces and eights, that's what every blackjack strategy Web site I've stumbled across has said.


    Everything I've read says to ALWAYS DD 11, DD 10 if the dealer has 9-2, and DD 9 if the dealer has 6-3.

    Yes, ALWAYS split aces and 8s, never split face cards. It's not worth the risk in the long run if you split your 20 and end up with two 16 hands. That would suck.

    15, 16, 17, surrender if the dealer shows an ace.

    NEVER buy insurance. The house advantage on it doesn't make it worth it.

    I always play single deck because even though it pays 6-5 on BJ, I hit it more often than 6 or 8 deck. One night at Terrible's Casino in Vegas just off the strip, I found a $5 3-2 single deck table and I hit BJ 8 times in 2 hours. I know it was 8 times because I had that many 50 cents pieces on the table. Later, I moved to a 8 deck shoe to play with a buddy of mine. Neither one of us hit BJ in about 45 mins. I left the 1st table $50 up, and I broke even at the 2nd one.

    I never play at the new tables they had at TI where the 8 decks are in constant shuffle and all the used cards are thrown back in to be reshuffled. I never tried to ever count cards, but I just don't like that there is a constant reshuffle. It bothers me for some reason.

    I've lost money on every casino game except for BJ. I'm ahead and at last count, I'm $180.50 up in just BJ games. I haven't tried poker out there, yet.

    (edited by Zeruel on 6.8.09 2158)




If you're on the strip, Excalibur had some $5 single and double deck tables. There and the Tropicana were the only places where I could regain my balance. Got absolutely slaughtered at a $10 table at Hooters, as the $3 tables were full. Was up, finished a drink, ordered another drink, only person at the table, so I was down $150 by the time my drink arrived.
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.17
    Originally posted by Super Shane Spear
      Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      (I actually asked the dealer to pause and let me write this down quickly, because I wanted to document what will certainly be the greatest victory I ever see in a casino; she obliged because I was the only one at the table):


    This is the craziest part of the story. If you even THINK about a pen in a Arizona casino, you're ejecto.


By "write it down," I actually mean, "type it as a barely coherent text message on my phone." I'm pretty sure even cell phones weren't supposed to be at the table, as there is a sign with a phone and the international "no" symbol over it, but the dealer didn't say anything.


    Everything I've read says to ALWAYS DD 11, DD 10 if the dealer has 9-2, and DD 9 if the dealer has 6-3.


Man, I don't know. It sounds like you've played way more than me, so you would know better probably, but doubling down when the dealer has a 10 or face card showing just seems like such a risky proposition to me, even with 11.

The art of surrendering is one I am not afraid to use. I surrender on 14, 15 or 16 if the dealer has a 10 or face card showing. But, at least at the casino here, surrendering isn't an option if the dealer shows an ace. It's buy insurance or nothing.

And I'll only buy insurance if I've made a small bet. For example, the table minimum is $5, and that's mostly what I played at first, and at $5 I'll throw a $2.50 chip on the insurance line for the hell of it. It just seems like such a cheap way to potentially avoid a loss. But on those $100 bets, I wouldn't have bothered with insurance had an ace come up.
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