I log on here fairly regularly to see if there are any new messages, but there seem to be less and less as time goes on hence the question. Have you lost interest in WWE, wrestling as a whole or just putting messages on here?
I try to always take part in the predictions for upcoming PPV/Network specials, as do a fair few of you, but are the weekly shows still watched? I record each show and watch them on fast forward over here in the UK but no longer subscribe to the Network and am not regretting that.
I subscribe to the network, watch NXT, Nxt UK, and most ppv's. I watch NJPW. I read reviews of Raw & SD thoroughly, remind myself to check them out and then don't do it. It's simply too time consuming for so little fun. Which is a shame because some of the stuff really IS fun. I watch about 90% of the WWE ppv's and often with my two wrestling buddies. Half the time we spend the show discussing what's wrong OR what happened on the NJPW or NXT shows.
I never got into TNA or Lucha Underground, and don't really get to see much ROH (just to be complete)
Originally posted by BigDaddyLocoI still watch every big show, but I dip in and out on the weekly stuff now that they made the shows so repetitive that you no longer have to watch them every week.
This is how I felt until about a week ago when I finally cancelled my WWE subscription so I'll no longer be watching any WWE.
I do still have a subscription to Stardom and will sometimes watch MLW or CMLL on YouTube and still like Lucha Underground so I haven't completely lost interest in wrestling but it's definitely the last I've been interested since I became a wrestling fan.
(edited by Quezzy on 8.11.18 1823) Lance's Response:
A few months ago, I gave up financially supporting WWE due to their close ties to Trump. A tiny and futile gesture, but whatever. I cancelled WWE Network and swapped out the cable channel package with Raw and SD.
Since then, I haven't watched any WWE, except for when I was visiting my grandma and she was flipping channels, found Raw, and went "you like wrestling!" We watched about 15 minutes before it was time for Jeopardy and Wheel. She thought it was silly, which was probably the best possible outcome.
I miss NXT. And I'll likely pick up WWE 2K19 when I can find a deal on a used one. Beyond that, I haven't really missed it. That said, my favourite musician is playing here on the night of the Royal Rumble, and while I didn't hesitate to buy tickets, it was weird to think that I won't see the Rumble live for the first time since (I think) 1993.
I probably wouldn't have stopped watching if I was actually enjoying the shows. And I still watch some UFC which is a great big trash heap of a company, so clearly my morals are pretty selective.
I still pay for the Observer, but nowadays I only seem to skim the newsletters. I listen to the Bryan & Dave audio shows and lurk on the board, speaking of great big trash heaps.
I have New Japan World and while I don't watch every show, I see all the big shows and watched all of the G1 matches. I've got January 4 off work so I'll likely watch the Tokyo Dome live. Now if I could only get decent internet in this house.
I just got caught up on GLOW on Netflix and it was pretty good!
I think the four hour PPVs and the increasingly middling quality of them broke me. I had given up on watching Raw much earlier - it also just didn't feel worth the immense time. The remaining joy I was getting out of it was out of it was discussing it with people online, and even then became not enough. I've never canceled the season passes, but I really don't bother unless enough people chirp about something I'd be interested in on Twitter.
I was down to pretty much just watching 205 Live & NXT Takeovers (and rushing thru weeks of NXT right before a Takeover.) I skipped one or two Takeovers, was otherwise busy and didn't care to make the time later, and that's when I knew it was time to cancel.
It's not a clean break. It's not hard to find the pirate streaming sites if there's one match I feel a need to watch. I'll probably go to Takeover again if they come back to Chicago in May, and I figure I'll probably end up getting the network again eventually, but it felt good not be paying for WWE right now.
My life is still disturbingly consumed with wrestling in other ways. There are so many interesting and varied live wrestling shows around the Chicago area. I think it's possible I've spent more towards wrestling this year than any year before, it's just not going towards WWE.
I'm still loving NXT, even if I had to give up the recaps, and I meant it when I said 205 is the best wrestling show on televesion (or, you know, whatever). Seriously, Mustafa Ali is, on a regular basis, doing some of the highest quality work that I've ever seen. I also thought that Evolution was a fantastic show, even if Charlotte/Becky should've headlined, and btw, if you skipped out on this year's MYC, you make a terrible mistake. Go catch that. Oh, and I watch NJPW on AXS, which means I see the stuff that happened weeks or sometimes months ago, with awful, awful Jim Ross/Josh Barnett commentary. How is anyone that bad at a job they're paid to do?
But main roster, standard shows? If it was up to me, RAW'd be three hours of Seth and Dean, and Smackdown'd be two hours of Becky Lynch staring at her wristwatch. For all the talent they've accrued, the shows are unforgivably boring and repetitive most of the time. I'm glad I had the good grace to skip out on Crown Jewel after reading the reviews, but even their better quality of event show tends to have precious little to say about it.
I guess it's not so much that wrestling's bad, or even that WWE's bad, but it sure is mediocre?
I watch 205 and NXT on the regular, and usually have RAW and Smackdown on in the background when they are on. There is still some good stuff in there. Evolution was probably the best PPV in ages. I just didn't want to start a thread since I already started a Mae Young Classic thread and didn't want to be the girl one writing about girl things. I keep threatening to recap 205 because it is so very good, but that's actually pretty time consuming- kudos to all who have constitantly recapped in the past. In general there is a lot less chatter in all the sections of The W. I think it is just the nature of message boards not being what they once were. I don't see much activity on my Freindster page either. On the other hand, if it keeps alive long enough it could be come cool and retro like viny.
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It's good to see that there are still a fair few of you out there that will reply to a message when it is on here! I have thought about getting the NJPW network but don't think I know enough about it to justify it apart from the main event regulars. Can you cancel the subscription whenever you want?
I started watching WWE in 1990 when I was 13 years old, and there weren't many of us over here in the UK back then, and stuck with it ever since but it is getting hard. I just can't justify £10 (or $9.99 for those of you who get it cheaper!) to watch NXT and parts of 205. The monthly 'PPVs' just aren't special anymore as there are so many repeat matches mixed in with pointless special matches with the old guys coming in. Shawn coming back should have been such a big story built up for months that the vast majority will be excited for, but a match done for money that won't be shown again. Such a waste. Apart from his bank account of course!
Originally posted by kellogsI have thought about getting the NJPW network but don't think I know enough about it to justify it apart from the main event regulars. Can you cancel the subscription whenever you want?
You can, though I've heard that navigating the site to do so is tricky. I've never done it - my initial subscription ended when my credit card expired, and I've kept it ever since I renewed.
I should also note that their billing is stupid. You get billed on the first of the month. So if you sign up on November 29, you'll pay your 999 yen for November, and then get billed again on December 1 for December. So if you're going to check it out, start at the beginning of a month.
I watch Smackdown and pop in for Raw. Honestly, after this whole Crown Jewel fiasco, I could really care less. Smackdown is the better show, but they really need to just full stop on whatever plans they have for Shane and just do Daniel/AJ properly. If on a scale of 1 to 10. I am at a 2.
Honestly, the best thing coming out of the WWE is Ryder and Hawkins doing a Wrestling Figure podcast.
I cancelled my WWE Network subscription some time ago; I just hated the direction it had been going for so long: too much product, 50/50 booking, sterile presentation etc.
However, on a much more positive note, I'm probably watching more wrestling than ever before. There's never been a time when wrestling has been so readily accessible. I dip into some of the US indies from time to time, but NJPW is my sweetheart. I went from watching the odd show passively to becoming a loyal supporter about eighteen months ago. Since then, I've watched the majority of their NJPW World output (it's an absolute bargain) and caught the roster a few times in the UK when my schedule has allowed. I've also been to Wrestle Kingdom at the Tokyo Dome and caught a show at Korakuen Hall, which I absolutely recommend you all do in your lifetime! Even my wife is a fan.
I do like some of the things that Triple H is behind, which hopefully bodes well for the future of the company, but at the moment WWE is not for me.
2. Bullet Club: Elite's youtube show - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2V6TA0OqHr9BojcHz9az-w - which to a lesser extent encourages me to watch their antics in Ring of Honor when Pluto TV airs a new episode, to go to local indie shows featuring their extended cast of characters, and to read NJPW recaps when I come across one
After the above(which I watch every new episode of) I have a big gap in enthusiasm, but I still watch half of the episodes of #3. Impact Wrestling. Impact has been a -good- show over the last six months or so, but it has suffered a lot by the departures of most of its 2016 cast of characters: Ethan Carter III, Bobby Lashley, Drew Galloway, the Broken Hardyz, Rockstar Spud, Crazzy Steve, Maria and Mike Bennett. The new crew is good, but I'm not emotionally invested in their stories yet.
4. WWE -- I occasionally flip over to RAW or Smackdown, get bored within five minutes and stop watching. The three hour Monday Night RAW just kills it. Even if the characters weren't bland and lifeless, three hours would still be too exhausting to get through. It would behoove them to adopt TNA's 2010 ReAction approach of two hour episodes followed by a one hour post-show.
Originally posted by CRZI tweeted a few days ago that lately it seems like WWE is more to be endured than enjoyed.
I think this is where I am at. The DVR records the shows, but I only go back and watch if I know something interesting happened (which is fewer times than it used to be). My son still watches pretty regularly (while at college) and we catch up on any developments, but I don't devote much of my dwindling brain cells to WWE.
I recently got a four-month new subscription to WWE Network, and I'm liking it, actually. Evolution was a very good pay-per-view, though I think that the first post in the Crown Jewel thread here really said it all.
But I like how I can go back through old RAWs, Nitros, and pay-per-views. I like the Collections page, and I just love Table for 3. I watched every episode of the Cruiserweight Classic, and have watched several episodes of 205 Live.
By the way, anyone here who's still a Network subscriber owes it to themselves to watch the main event of 205 Live #100 from a couple of weeks ago, in which Hideo Itami battled Mustafa Ali in a Falls Count Anywhere match.
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I have definitely lost interest. I will watch a match on a PPV once in awhile (and did watch most of Evolution). I still have the network subscription, as my son is a big NXT fan, but I hardly ever use it. We still DVR Raw and Smackdown, and I will read a review, but very rarely watch it unless I hear of something interesting happening. Usually, it is deleted without being watched.
It just seems like there is nothing new they are offering, much is the same stuff again and again. I think they have oversaturated their product. My sons talked me into getting Royal Rumble and NXT Takeover tickets while they are here in Phoenix, so I will see if that rekindles anything.
Current product? Meh. There are people I enjoy and I seek out their highlights on YouTube - Sasha, Bayley, Becky, Riott Squad... okay, mostly the women's division and Elias - but the weekly shows are just bleh. Raw is too long and most shows are interchangeable.
I do tend to at least skim through the PPVs (minus Crown Royal), and will usually watch the big ones. I still keep up with NXT and I've enjoyed NXT UK so far.
I still dig through the older stuff on the Network. I've been going through old Survivor Series and enjoying them.
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