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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.75
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
      Originally posted by What a burger
      He's not a draw. He never was a draw. And he'll never be a draw.


    HBK's drawing power is more myth or force of will than reality. He's definitely not the attraction he thinks he is/was. But he was a significant house show draw in 1996 when WWF houses had theretofore been in "the shitter." And Michaels vs. Hogan was the biggest non-Mania PPV in three years and drew a huge buyrate in large part thanks to Shawn's work building the match (and when other Hogan comeback matches on PPV have been way less successful).

    (edited by JustinShapiro on 11.12.05 2302)


Here's the question I have then. If HBK had been "putting over" younger talent before the angle and match with Hogan, would as many people have bought the PPV for that match? Wouldn't Michaels seem to be completely out of Hogan's league if he was losing feuds to Carlito, Masters, "insert random midcard heel here" before the big angle?

I personally think that HBK has the best matches of anybody on pay per views AND on live TV. That's enough for me to give him a favorable review. I don't think he is as good as in 95-97, but when his "bad" matches are still at least decent then I've got no problems with HBK having a high spot on any WWE card.

(edited by Torchslasher on 12.12.05 1002)


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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.81
    Originally posted by Torchslasher
    Here's the question I have then. If HBK had been "putting over" younger talent before the angle and match with Hogan, would as many people have bought the PPV for that match? Wouldn't Michaels seem to be completely out of Hogan's league if he was losing feuds to Carlito, Masters, "insert random midcard heel here" before the big angle?


The feuds with Masters and Carlito took place after the feud with Hogan and subsequent SummerSlam match.

Edit - I just realized that I misread the quote. My bad.

(edited by Deputy Marshall on 14.12.05 2320)



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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.76
Heel HBK - Still awesome
Face HBK - Always awful

I was hoping on the last RAW that his interaction with Sheldon was leading to a heel turn by HBK, but I think it is setting up a heel turn by Sheldon. Until HBK goes heel, I usually change the channel during his matches.

And another thing, when he "strikes up the band" for Sweet Chin Music, wouldn't anyone wrestling him with a set of working ears hear him stomping and get out of the ring? I mean it would be one thin if he stood quietly waiting for his opponent to turn around to hit him with SCM, but to stomp away on the mat until he does, and THEN kick him ALL without his opponent not hearing him? Seems unrealistic. But then again, the WWE married unrealistic many decades ago.



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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.09
    Originally posted by Wpob
    And another thing, when he "strikes up the band" for Sweet Chin Music, wouldn't anyone wrestling him with a set of working ears hear him stomping and get out of the ring?


I always equated the pre-kick stomp as the sinister heel tactic of "loading up the boot," shifting and securing a heavy foreign object for maximum impact.

The kick always worked better, as most finishers do, when it comes out of nowhere like the Diamond Cutter. Take the kick that ended the first, great Shelton/Shawn match: no build-up, just a reflexive move that got the pin.



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