As a Browns fan since Jim Brown was playing, anything bad that happens to the Bengals automatically brings great joy. As a fan of football and living in a state now with no professional teams (KC is in KCMO and do they count as professional?) I hate to see this. Bad or not a pro team is a pro team.
Just when the Bengals thought they had recovered from the primordial ooze of the 90's and early 00's, the franchise went back into the abyss when Carson Palmer blew out his knee in the playoff game against the Steelers.
As an Eagles fan, it might be cheaper to arrange a road trip with a few friends for the Cincinatti game than it would be to buy tickets for a home game. Plus, the road trip aspect should be fun. I may have to do this...
You believe me, don't you? Please believe what I just said...
It will be a tight race between Detroit and Cincy for the worst record. After looking at the remaining schedule, the only team these two could beat would be Houston. I give Detroit the edge because, well, they are Detroit. Trading away Roy Williams will help them secure the #1 overall pick. They could both go winless.
Not to go off topic, but where were these fans selling tickets below face value when I needed them for the final game at Shea? 4x the regular price to watch my team choke the playoffs away. Worst investment I ever made and on my birthday, too.
As for worst record, while Cincy is pretty bad, they have been competitive in a couple of games (vs. the Giants, Cowboys, Ravens). The Lions, on the other hand, get blown out almost every game. The Bengals aren't even the second worst team in the NFL: despite their win against the Redskins, I still say it's the Rams.
In the end, Cincy will be bad, but not bad enough. What I mean is they will get a 4 or 5 win season that will stink for their fans and yet only get them a #5 or 6 pick, with teams like the Lions, Rams, Raiders, and Chiefs doing even worse.
Originally posted by supersalvadoranNot to go off topic, but where were these fans selling tickets below face value when I needed them for the final game at Shea? 4x the regular price to watch my team choke the playoffs away. Worst investment I ever made and on my birthday, too.
Such a phenomenon would NEVER happen in New York. There are more than enough people in the city, Jersey, upstate, and Long Island that will fill in. The Cincinnati metro area just isn't as large, which is why this is happening.
Green Bay (metro population of approximately 150,000) would like a word with you.
Originally posted by Sec19Row53Green Bay (metro population of approximately 150,000) would like a word with you.
It wouldn't happen in Green Bay for a totally different reason. I was going over why it wouldn't happen in New York. It's a matter of the Yankees, the Mets, the Giants (Lombardi's better team), the Jets, the Knicks, the Nets, the Devils, the Islanders, and the Rangers usually having a full house due to a huge population. Sort of a different scenario; New York has rabid fans, Green Bay's major export and biggest business is the Packers. When you consider I was going over 9 teams compared to 1, well, it's very different now isn't it?
How have Bucks games been doing in terms of gate?
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You see, I took this post to mean 'it's all about the number of people'.
Originally posted by Lexus Such a phenomenon would NEVER happen in New York. There are more than enough people in the city, Jersey, upstate, and Long Island that will fill in. The Cincinnati metro area just isn't as large, which is why this is happening.
I thought your original point was that there were so many people in the greater New York area that this couldn't happen, and that Cincinnati is smaller, so it could happen there.
Now as I re-read your post to reply to it, you've changed tunes to say that New York has rabid fans.
If what you meant to say is some teams need to do well to draw well, and that some teams have great fanbases, then I agree. But that's not what you said in the post I first quoted.
Originally posted by LexusSuch a phenomenon would NEVER happen in New York. There are more than enough people in the city, Jersey, upstate, and Long Island that will fill in. The Cincinnati metro area just isn't as large, which is why this is happening.
Yeah, but the Green Bay metro area ALSO isn't as large, and clearly it's not happening there.
Oh, that's not what you meant? Mean what you say the first time, then. Don't get all snippy.
Really, I'm not all that sure that that Shea point was even worth responding to in the first place, and now look where we are.
Originally posted by LexusSuch a phenomenon would NEVER happen in New York. There are more than enough people in the city, Jersey, upstate, and Long Island that will fill in. The Cincinnati metro area just isn't as large, which is why this is happening.
Yeah, but the Green Bay metro area ALSO isn't as large, and clearly it's not happening there.
Oh, that's not what you meant? Mean what you say the first time, then. Don't get all snippy.
Really, I'm not all that sure that that Shea point was even worth responding to in the first place, and now look where we are.
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My bad for ever bringing it up CRZ, cause I didn't mean to have it made into such a big fuss. The only point I was making (which I admit probably didn't belong in the thread) was that I wished when I was buying the Shea tickets that I would have had fans like the ones in Cincy selling below face value instead of having to buy them at Stubhub at a jacked-up price. I didn't think that comment would make such a brouhaha.
The Islanders haven't drawn in years. The Devils won 3 titles and didn't draw in the Meadowlands. The Nets only draw based upon the opponent. And, the ticket brokers in New York took a huge bath on the Mets this season judging by the number of empty seats throughout the year on announced crowds in the 50k region. According to www.sportsterminal.com the Nets drew 680,685 total attendance in 2006-07 and 641,921 in 2007-08. The Bucks drew 645,743 in 2006-07 and 639,421 in 2007-08. The Bucks number in '06-'07 is skewered by a 0 attendance game for game #27. I'm guessing it was something involving a snowstorm, but that is why there was a lower percentage drop for the Bucks last season compared to the Nets.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to come off as offensive, or demeaning. I also didn't mean to go off on a tangent over NOTHING, but wound up doing so anyway. I'll try to be more careful in the future.
(edited by Lexus on 15.10.08 2230) "Laugh and the world laughs with you. Frown and the world laughs at you." -Me.
Originally posted by LexusI'm sorry, I didn't mean to come off as offensive, or demeaning. I also didn't mean to go off on a tangent over NOTHING, but wound up doing so anyway. I'll try to be more careful in the future.
(edited by Lexus on 15.10.08 2230)
Hey, if we can't argue about sports, we'd have to take it to politics.
Randall Cunningham would probably be going to the hall of fame if he had a coach that gave a damn about offense early in his career. His coach at Philly Buddy Ryan, didnt give give 2 shits about offense. so Randall wasnt really coached well.