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OlFuzzyBastard
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Since: 28.4.02
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Two fun stories in the news today!

FBI: AL-QAIDA MAY TRY "SPECTACULAR ATTACK"
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and
US ARMY FIRES SIX ARABIC LINGUIST SPECIALISTS FOR BEING GAY
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I'm just so proud to know that, even though thousands of American lives are on the line, our government still has time to hate fags.

So, when another attack happens, and the government says "Yeah, we had some information, but we couldn't translate it in time" (You know, like on 9/11), just remember there was a damned good reason this time - We didn't want those documents translated by faggots, did we? Heavens, no! Why, what would High Lord Ashcroft think?

I can't belive that in the middle of everything, we still have this kind of reactionary horseshit going on.



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StaggerLee
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Since: 3.10.02
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I dont feel sexual orientation should ever be reason to fire a person.
rockdotcom_2.0
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Im in the Navy and I cannot tell you how many arguments Ive had about this absolutley stupid "dont ask dont tell" policy. Discriminating against someone for being gay is the same as discriminating because someone is black or a woman. Its the same racist bullshit. I pray and pray that eventually someone will be able to put an end to this horrible policy. Clinton tried and a good portion of the military turned against him because of it. Hopefully someone will be able to change it.



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StaggerLee
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Since: 3.10.02
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So, you are AGAINST the policy of allowing homosexuals to serve, but think the policy needs to be done away with? I am confused.
rockdotcom_2.0
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IM sorry, I shouldve been more clear. I think that homosexuals should be allowed to serve openly. Someones sexual preference has no impact on their job performance. So there is no logical reason why anyone should have to hide what they are. The military rule on homosexuality is wrong and needs to be changed. thats my point.



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StaggerLee
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Thanks for clearing that up! I agree 100%. A Sailor/Soldier Marine or Airmans sexuality doesnt comprimise how effectively he can fight a war.
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    Originally posted by rockdotcom_2.0
    Im in the Navy and I cannot tell you how many arguments Ive had about this absolutley stupid "dont ask dont tell" policy. Discriminating against someone for being gay is the same as discriminating because someone is black or a woman. Its the same racist bullshit. I pray and pray that eventually someone will be able to put an end to this horrible policy. Clinton tried and a good portion of the military turned against him because of it. Hopefully someone will be able to change it.


Rock, what are the rules on men and women interacting on a Navy vessel? Do you think the problem with gays serving openly is somehow related to that, as in, they don't want any sexual tension on the high seas?

Of course, it is the Navy... ;)



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My one problem with sexuality in the armed forces is that there are different physical standards for men and women. It makes no freaking sense, thus meaning that what I just said has nothing to do with the lunacy of firing six Arab translaters because they're not like the 95% of athe rest of us...
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    Originally posted by PalpatineW

      Originally posted by rockdotcom_2.0
      Im in the Navy and I cannot tell you how many arguments Ive had about this absolutley stupid "dont ask dont tell" policy. Discriminating against someone for being gay is the same as discriminating because someone is black or a woman. Its the same racist bullshit. I pray and pray that eventually someone will be able to put an end to this horrible policy. Clinton tried and a good portion of the military turned against him because of it. Hopefully someone will be able to change it.


    Rock, what are the rules on men and women interacting on a Navy vessel? Do you think the problem with gays serving openly is somehow related to that, as in, they don't want any sexual tension on the high seas?

    Of course, it is the Navy... ;)




well the women and the men arent separated on ships or anything like that if thats what you mean...lol. We all work side by side and of course there is sexual tension, relationships, random hook ups, things like that. A navy ship is just like a lot of workplaces when it comes to male-female interaction. Throw in the fact that its probably more high stress than most places coupled with the fact you can be out to sea for days, weeks, months at a time, and things are going to happen. The navy tries to regulate it but its mostly just something thats accepted that will happen. The navy mostly sweats any possible sexual harrasment allegations and hookups between enlisted people and officers.Other than that if you are discreet and it doesnt cause a problem nobody cares.

TO answer your question does that all that relate to gay men and or women? I dont think so. Mostly its because that a good number of people that I talk to that are agianst letting gays serve is that they wouldn feel comfortable knowing that such and such is gay and he sleeps 10 feet away from you or he uses the same shower. And I always say to that is get over it. 50 years ago most guys didnt feel comortable with black men working and living with them, but they had to get over it. If someone can do the job, physically and mentally than there is no reason they shouldnt be allowed to serve their country. Their bedroom preferences have nothing to do with it.




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