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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.39
In another wonderful moment in US broadcast history, we get this.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/TV/11/11/movie.canceled.ap/index.html

Yes, the land of the free, indeed.



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The indecency rules are so ambiguous, and people are so gun shy, it's not a huge surprise. Of course, groups like the PTC (parentstv.org) are saying that they won't complain and "context is everything".

Right now, the FCC can't say if it's indecent or not until they get complaints and review. You could show them something ahead of time, and they can't say if you'd be in trouble or not.

I don't like the double standard that exists. The PTC says that "the content is not meant to shock" in Private Ryan, but I'd argue just the opposite. The content IS meant to shock and show the horrors of war.

This whole FCC thing makes my head hurt.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.33
Here's a statement from the Boston ABC affiliate on their decision not to air it.

The fact it specifically mentions Janet Jackson and Bono just makes me sad. Or Angry. Definitely Sangry.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95

Wait, what did Bono do?



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
    Wait, what did Bono do?


Bono dropped the F Bomb at the Golden Globes & the FCC ruled it was indecent (hollywoodreporter.com).
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The Religious Right is now going to complain about not honoring Veterans when not showing the movie...

I am not holding my breath on the mea culpas when these are the people that complained in the first place...



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
    Originally posted by Simba
    Here's a statement from the Boston ABC affiliate on their decision not to air it.

    The fact it specifically mentions Janet Jackson and Bono just makes me sad. Or Angry. Definitely Sangry.


It's friggin' Massachusetts. Are people really gonna complain? And... should we care?

Ridiculous. Just show it at 9 or 10. Put the kids to bed. Unlike boobgate, we know it's coming this time. No one's going to be surprised.

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    Yes, the land of the free, indeed.


Yeah, as in, they're free not to show the film. Free, but pretty damn cowardly.



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I was pretty shocked when I turned on my local ABC affiliate WVEC Norfolk and they werent showing it either. This is pretty much the biggest military community in the US.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by Von Maestro
      Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
      Wait, what did Bono do?


    Bono dropped the F Bomb at the Golden Globes & the FCC ruled it was indecent (hollywoodreporter.com).


The odd thing about that was that the FCC ruled it as DECENT due to the context. He wasn't talking about fucking, in the sexual context, just as fucking in the expletive context.

Later they ruled it indecent and that "Fucking" is not decent in any context.




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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.22
    Originally posted by PalpatineW
    Ridiculous. Just show it at 9 or 10. Put the kids to bed. Unlike boobgate, we know it's coming this time. No one's going to be surprised.


ABC wouldn't allow the affiliates to put it on at a later time. 8PM or nothing, apparently.
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While I am certainly against the hard-core stance the FCC has taken over the past year, I am not that riled up about this.

I mean - it is just a movie, but people seem to be acting like it is patriotic doctrine. I suppose it it were a documentary showing film from the actual battle, an in depth look at what our soldiers go through in war, then perhaps I would be in agreement if someone tried to call it indecent.

But this? It is a fictional work - and not a very good one at that. I know it got tons of awards and acclaim, but I think that had more to do with the subject matter and the parties involved than the merits of the film. And it certainly isn't important enough to qualify as something it is your patriotic duty to watch.

As long as we allow the FCC to set guidelines for the broadcast stations, then we have to live with their judgment. But the film can still be found in your local video store and I am sure it will be on cable. If anyone needs to watch it that bad, it is still there.

Yeah - FCC censorship is bad. But it isn't an affront to Veterans Day, or anything against our soldiers. If indeed it is deemed indecent by the FCC, it will still be indecent tomorrow, when it isn't Veteran's Day. This just isn't a "support our troops" issue.



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Here in Tampa, where good ol' Tommy Franks and CENTCOM holed up, the movie was not broadcast. I thought it odd that local Tampa stations spent months celebrating Tampa's committment to WAR -- "The celebrity General is here!" -- but blanched in the face of showing a movie that unflinchingly exposes the horrors of, well, war. There's a further predictable irony in the fact that the leading stories on the local news tonight involved people being shot or threatened with being shot. Huzzay for moral or ethical consistency!



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.41
The FCC is reporting that it got a bunch of complaints about "Saving Private Ryan". Way to go, American Family Association.

Click Here (news.yahoo.com)

It's gotta open some kind of a bad can or worms. If they regulate and fine, they offend a bunch of people. If they ignore it, it offends a bunch of other people.
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Thank God I don't live in this technological backwater! Here where I live, we have this thing calle the remote control...it's pretty cool. When I don't like what's on TV, I just change teh channell. But then again, I can understand why someone would wanna bitch and complain that they almost heard the F-word.
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