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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.74
Jim Thome, Ken Griffey Junior, and Sammy Sosa are batting for the national leauge and Jason Giambi, David Ortiz and Rafael Palmeiro are hitting for the American.

An additional player from each leauge will be picked. Why no Bonds? Seems to me that he could hit about 30 in a round if he wanted to keep going. Ken's my boy but I think he only got picked cuz he is actually healthy, not because he is hitting a lot of jacks.

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Surprised they picked Giambi, with his stomach bug...

I think Blalock deserves the fourth AL Spot.





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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.87
    Originally posted by ShotGunShep
    Jason Giambi, David Ortiz and Rafael Palmeiro are hitting for the American.
    An additional player from each leauge will be picked.
Jason, please stay home and look in the couch cushions for your hitting ability. You remember, the one you had with Oakland?

Let Vlad, Manny, Ortiz, and either Blaylock or Soriano hit em out. Hell, maybe Sheff will get run over by a steamroller on the way to the derby, a la Nordberg, and then hit 50 balls outta the park...



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You wanted the best, you got... Out of Context Quote of the Week.

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Dear Jason Giambi:

When MLB asked if you wanted to be in the Home Run Derby, the proper response was "it's coming out of both ends", not "yes". And yes, a small portion of this is actually out of concern for your health. But mostly because we want to see a Derby that doesn't suck.

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.27
    Originally posted by ShotGunShep
    Jason Giambi, David Ortiz and Rafael Palmeiro are hitting for the American


Palmeiro? You've gotta be kidding me. Where is Vlad or Manny? Two of the best righty swings ever? (IMO)


EDIT: They've got to be including him because he surpassed 500. I wonder what they would have done if McGriff it the 7 or 8 he needs to join the 500 club?


(edited by CRZ on 8.7.04 0505)


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Gambling, in the context of baseball, is a capital offense and Rose has richly earned-- hell, he agreed to-- his death sentence. Let him hang.

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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.38
    Originally posted by Whitebacon
      Originally posted by ShotGunShep
      Jason Giambi, David Ortiz and Rafael Palmeiro are hitting for the American


    Palmeiro? You've gotta be kidding me. Where is Vlad or Manny? Two of the best righty swings ever? (IMO)


    EDIT: They've got to be including him because he surpassed 500. I wonder what they would have done if McGriff it the 7 or 8 he needs to join the 500 club?



Manny gave up his spot for Ortiz, while Guerrero has stated he doesn't wish to participate.

(edited by CRZ on 8.7.04 0506)


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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
      Originally posted by Whitebacon
        Originally posted by ShotGunShep
        Jason Giambi, David Ortiz and Rafael Palmeiro are hitting for the American


      Palmeiro? You've gotta be kidding me. Where is Vlad or Manny? Two of the best righty swings ever? (IMO)


      EDIT: They've got to be including him because he surpassed 500. I wonder what they would have done if McGriff it the 7 or 8 he needs to join the 500 club?







    Manny gave up his spot for Ortiz, while Guerrero has stated he doesn't wish to participate.




But still...Palmeiro? Why not A-Rod with his 19 homers, or Frank Thomas, with his 18, or Paul Konerko, with his 17, or even Jose Valentin with his 17, or Mark Teixera or, Soriano or H. Matsui ,or Tejada, or Lawton, or Blake, Jose Guillen or Sheffield, or Jose Cruz Jr, or even the injured Eric Chavez or DEREK F'ng JETER, or Mike Sweeney, Corey Koskie, or Carlos Beltran (since traded to the NL), or Tino Martinez or Melvin Mora, Rod Barajas, Aubrey Huff, or Victor Martinez. All of the guys mentioned above have greater than or equal to the same number of home runs as does Palmeiro. I mean...I don't believe that Sosa really belongs on the HR Derby squad, but he has a decent excuse for his 14 homers...he was on the DL for a bit (and can bring teh ratingz~!). Palmeiro can't possibly be adding enough to the TV ratings to justify his spot on the team/

(edited by CRZ on 8.7.04 0507)



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In the context of baseball, the use of drugs hurts only the player. In the context of baseball, the use of alcohol hurts only the player. In the context of baseball, womanizing hurts whom? Maybe the wife of the player? In the context of baseball, felonies are crimes against society, not against baseball. In the context of baseball, gambling is the only crime against baseball.

Gambling, in the context of baseball, is a capital offense and Rose has richly earned-- hell, he agreed to-- his death sentence. Let him hang.

Bob Kohm, co-owner of Rotojunkies.com (rotojunkies.com) , and a large market kind of guy.
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I don't think they are putting Palmeiro on the team for ratings, they're already going to get ratings with Griffey and Sosa there, they only way to get even better than that is if they get Bonds.

On paper this looks like a no contest, if Bonds is added then he and Thome alone could win it, and they still have Sosa and Griffey in addition to that.

Personally I'd like to see Piazza on the team now that he's the leading homerun hitter all time for his position, but it seems ever since he got shutout the first time he was in it he hasn't wanted to participate.



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Disclaimer: I am one of the few, the proud...a true fan of Barry Bonds.

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A guy like Bonds will never do it because of ego.

As of right now, he's "the greatest home run hitter in the game" TM. So what happens if he goes on national TV and gets wasted in a homerun derby?

Of course, you and I know that the derby means nothing and it's just for fun and that we wouldn't think any less of Bonds for not winning the derby, etc.

But he will take the "I have nothing to prove" stance to get out of it and avoid the risky, potentiall ego-bruising exhibition.



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If Scott Rolen or Albert Pujols arent asked, its a shame, both are hitting good this season, and both can jack the homer, and in that softball field in Houston, it should be no problem to load up on Righties and knock the hell out of the ball.



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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1836635

The arrogant SOB agrees to join the Home Run Derby....wonder who held the gun to his head.....?



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    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    If Scott Rolen or Albert Pujols arent asked, its a shame, both are hitting good this season, and both can jack the homer, and in that softball field in Houston, it should be no problem to load up on Righties and knock the hell out of the ball.


No doubt Rolen and Pujols are great hitters but it's hard to argue against three guys with 500 career homeruns and the guy leading the majors in homeruns, even if Sosa and Griffey aren't having as a season.

Same for Palmeiro, he's hit 540 career homeruns so obivioulsy he can hit homeruns. I'm glad Blaock got the last spot, although I still think the NL will win easily.



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Currently eating crow re: Bonds.





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Clearly the first pitch to Bonds in the Derby needs to be a pitchout. This needs to happen.



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    Originally posted by Quezzy
      Originally posted by StaggerLee
      If Scott Rolen or Albert Pujols arent asked, its a shame, both are hitting good this season, and both can jack the homer, and in that softball field in Houston, it should be no problem to load up on Righties and knock the hell out of the ball.


    No doubt Rolen and Pujols are great hitters but it's hard to argue against three guys with 500 career homeruns and the guy leading the majors in homeruns, even if Sosa and Griffey aren't having as a season.

    Same for Palmeiro, he's hit 540 career homeruns so obivioulsy he can hit homeruns. I'm glad Blaock got the last spot, although I still think the NL will win easily.


Griffey has slumped as of late, but he still has 20 homers. He was smokin' hot up until he hit 500.




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In the context of baseball, the use of drugs hurts only the player. In the context of baseball, the use of alcohol hurts only the player. In the context of baseball, womanizing hurts whom? Maybe the wife of the player? In the context of baseball, felonies are crimes against society, not against baseball. In the context of baseball, gambling is the only crime against baseball.

Gambling, in the context of baseball, is a capital offense and Rose has richly earned-- hell, he agreed to-- his death sentence. Let him hang.

Bob Kohm, co-owner of Rotojunkies.com (rotojunkies.com) , and a large market kind of guy.
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is anyone else pissed that they listed vlad guerrero as hitting in the homerun derby for at least a week but never bothered to ask him? being a huge angels fan, i really wanted to see him in it. but after this debacle im not surprised he turned them down. oh well.
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No one held a gun to his head.

    Originally posted by Whitebacon
    Griffey has slumped as of late, but he still has 20 homers. He was smokin' hot up until he hit 500.


Griffey's BA has topped out at .262 this year (since April 16), his OB% has been steady in the mid-.300 range and his OPS inched above .900 for about a week in mid-July. I wouldn't say he's been "smokin' hot" at all this year. He's really been nothing more than "a good story" since he finally hit #500 after years of everyone thinking he'd possibly be well past 600 by now.

Still, it's Houston...you could stick JT Snow up there and have the potential of seeing a double-digit round.
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So all but one lefty, unless I am mistaken. While Sosa has been out of action a lot, he still can seriously take advantage of that part better than anyone.

While I wasn't the first to say this, I do expect Bonds to be intentionally walked at least four times during the derby. Seriously though, Bonds is a finicky hitter, unlike Sosa who is a free swinger. Ironically Pujols is also a guy with a startling good eye for his age, I've heard commentators say many times that umpires will give him leeway at things he doesn't swing at when they are on the border, though back to the issue of Bonds. I don't really see him winning this, sure he has the power to do it, but his particularness doesn't lend well to these sorts of things, even if he is less inclined to swing at bad pitches than some of the others.

And... no J.T. Snow wouldn't be a good choice, him being a left, I'd be more inclined to say... Eduardo Alfonso.




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You wanted the best, you got... Out of Context Quote of the Week.

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Well, Griffey's out. Partial tear of the hamstring... on the DL now, so he ain't going to be in the Derby or the game. Maybe they fill his slot in the Derby with Rey Ordonez?



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.89
Apparently Pujols was asked, but turned it down to rest his ankle.


    No doubt Rolen and Pujols are great hitters but it's hard to argue against three guys with 500 career homeruns and the guy leading the majors in homeruns, even if Sosa and Griffey aren't having as a season.


It's kind of hard to hit 500 in 3 seasons.



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