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from the SD! report:

    All the signs were there. All those WWF hits on old Nitro reports, all those WWF visits to the message board, all those WWF hits showing evidence that they were reading any thread with "Russo" name in the title - but I didn't want to believe.


CRZ or Guru--

I understand that you can count hits on anything you put on a website, but how exactly do you determine WHERE the hit came from? When a website logs a hit, does it also log the IP address of the machine that hit it?

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#2 Posted on

    Originally posted by DrOp
    When a website logs a hit, does it also log the IP address of the machine that hit it?
That's exactly how it works.



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OH.

One more question (or group of questions): How does one determine from where an IP address originates? I remember long ago you taked of banning an Austrailian IP addy fo example. How can you tell if my computer is in MD, WWE HQ or England? Are the numbers clumped together like phone area codes?

One could use this to somehow keep track of demographics, I assume. Like for example: ___ % of Slash hits occur from worksites or occur between the hours of, say 9 am EST and 5pm?

Wow. I find this all very fascinating. Thanks for the explaination.



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When Adam configured this machine for me, he set up a bunch of log parsing stuff for us inluding Webalizer and MRTG.

Webalizer shows us the total # of pages, hits, files, visits, and kilobytes served. It also tracks the referrals, search engine hits, and has a breakdown by day and hour of when we get our hits.

We can see the bandwidth that the site is using on MRTG. This is measuring the traffic on the NIC.

Telling where an IP is from is a little harder. I don't know that I can do justice to the process. I generally cheat and just do a traceroute to the IP and see if any of the routers near it have regional names. I suppose you could go to ARIN or somewhere like that and see who owns the netblock. I haven't done this for a long time (since I was in @home support many moons ago) so I don't know the modern methods.



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I could add a name resolution step to webalizer's runs (takes longer, higher load on the machine, but fun to look at), but I generally don't bother, 'cause people who use ccTLDs (.ca, .us, .au, .uk, etc) are fairly rare, so you come up with a stat that "95% of all our visitors are from .com/.net/.org" which isn't very informative at all. And even worse now that a lot of countries have opened up their ccTLDs to the outside world.

Checking ownership of netblocks (as Zim said) is a bit more reliable, cause you might be able to nail something down to a local ISP, but that still doesn't work too well, since if you're connected via a UUnet/Worldcom owned IP, for instance, it doesn't matter what country you live in, the owner will be listed as Worldcom in the US.

The most reliable method (also mentioned by Zim) is tracing to the IP, and checking where you go along the way. Of course, this is next to impossible to do in an automated fashion, so it becomes something one does from time to time on one or two IPs that they want to know more about.

Pretty much all of this is useless as shit for demographics. Next time someone says "95% of our traffic is from the US", remember that most log parsing resolver thingies call .com/.net/.org "USA Commercial / USA Network / USA Organization". Which is complete and utter bullshit, since they can be registered by anyone, anywhere.

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Got it. Thanks for the info guys.



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SHHH! Don't let them know we are on to them. If they are going to start listening to what the smarks say on wrestling boards it might as well be this one. It scares me to think of some of the other boards they may be reading. Although, it does explain a lot...



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There's some pretty scary/out there stuff being said On This Very Board too, you know. But you didnt hear that from me.



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