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So Chris Benoit is defending the World Title next Monday against Shawn Michaels. HHH is not going to be involved in a title match for the first time in a long time. When was the last time that happened? I can remember one was when Shawn Michaels defended against RVD on RAW after Shawn won the title in the Elimination Chamber back in 2002. Even then, HHH factored into the finish that match. And didn't Goldberg and Kane have a match on RAW at one point when Goldberg was champion? And didn't HHH and/or Evolution factor into the finish of that match as well? My point being, almost 3 years into the introduction of the Raw World Title, this is only the 3rd championship match that I can think of that HHH hasn't been involved in as champion or challenger. And, based on past experiences of this sort, it doesn't look good for this Monday's match to end with a clean finish.

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Goldberg's reign had litle or no HHH runs mainly due to HHH doing Blade 3. Instead HHH inserted himself via video promos, so the fans can never forget who the champion really is. If they really wanted to get Benoit over as a legitimate champion, they need to move HHH out of the main event scene. Even during Goldberg's three month reign, all the main events involved HHH and it did feel like Goldberg was a place holder champion rather than a real champion. Benoit's push has been good, so far, but it still suffers from HHH is right there waiting to take it back. They really need to get HHH away from Chris and the main event. Raw has been good with Chris, Edge, Shawn. Flair and Batista main eventing and HHH on the outside.
HHH needs to go shoot that movie of his and stay away from a while.
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Goldberg defended the World title against Chris Jericho on September 22, 2003 - the night after he won it from HHH. He also defended the belt against Mark Henry on October 6 and Shawn Michaels on October 20.

Of course, that's a moot point because Chris Benoit has already defended the belt against Rhyno on the Draft RAW on March 22.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.74
    Originally posted by MonteCarl
    Even then, HHH factored into the finish that match.


I'm certain that's exactly what will happen Monday night, so don't be so sure HHH won't be involved. He'll find a way to insert himself.



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Ok. I figured I missed one or two title matches without HHH, but not that many. I guess it just SEEMS like he's in all the title matches.

--Monte N

EDIT: Heh....and I was even AT the Draft Raw where Benoit defended against Rhyno - which is where my icon image comes from. Silly me.

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Now, I've heard this rumored for awhile, mostly due to OO, but when is HHH supposed to be going off to do his movie, and how long is he supposed to be absent??
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    Originally posted by Packman V2
    Now, I've heard this rumored for awhile, mostly due to OO, but when is HHH supposed to be going off to do his movie, and how long is he supposed to be absent??


He's not doing anything noteworthy right now, so perhaps in the next few weeks he is written off in an injury angle of some sort. Last night on RAW I kinda wished Tajiri would bust out some of the SEMI-PERMANENTLY BLINDING BLACK MIST OF DOOM during the match and put HHH out of commission. But that, of course, was a pipe dream and nothing more.



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It'll be a nice break from seeing him every week....I'm ready for it.
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Hasn't HHH headlined all the RAW-only PPVs? Or am I forgetting something when Goldberg had the belt?



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I believe someone said Hunter's movie filming is being pushed back to July, fellows.
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Yes, HHH headlined all the Raw-only PPVs.

Bad Blood 2003- Beat Nash (Hell In A Cell)
Unforgiven 2003- Lost to Goldberg (for the belt)
Armageddon 2003- Beat Kane and Goldberg (for the title)
Backlash 2004- Lost to Benoit for the title (Triple threat and it was Shawn that tapped out, so technically he wasn't a winner or a loser)

I think he'll be away for Bad Blood this year, leaving Benoit-HBK free possibly.
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Maybe that's what I had in mind when thinking of all the HHH World Title matches. Rather than EVERY World Title defense having HHH in them, it's been every PPV title defense since the split that has had HHH in them. Is that not an accurate statement? We've established that HHH has headlined every RAW exclusive PPV, but what about the joint PPVs before they were seperated from each other and all the "Big 5" PPVs? Is there a PPV listing on a website somewhere that lists the PPVs and the main events for those PPVs?

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    Originally posted by MonteCarl
    Maybe that's what I had in mind when thinking of all the HHH World Title matches. Rather than EVERY World Title defense having HHH in them, it's been every PPV title defense since the split that has had HHH in them. Is that not an accurate statement? We've established that HHH has headlined every RAW exclusive PPV, but what about the joint PPVs before they were seperated from each other and all the "Big 5" PPVs? Is there a PPV listing on a website somewhere that lists the PPVs and the main events for those PPVs?

    --Monte N


The World title belt made it's WWE debut two weeks after Summerslam '02. The split/RAW PPVS since then have indeed always featured HHH in the World Title match.

2002:
Unforgiven - HHH d. Rob Van dam

No Mercy - HHH d. Kane to unify the World and Intercontinental titles

Survivor Series - Shawn Michaels d. HHH, Rob Van Dam, Booker T, Kane and Chris Jericho in the Elimination Chamber

Armageddon - HHH d. Shawn Michaels

2003:
Royal Rumble - HHH NC Scott Steiner

No Way Out - HHH d. Scott Steiner

Wrestlemania XIX - HHH d. Booker T

Backlash - (no World title match - main evented by Goldberg d. Rock - HHH teamed with Flair and Jericho to defeat Shawn Michaels, Kevin Nash and Booker T

Judgment Day - Kevin Nash d. HHH (by DQ)

Badd Blood - HHH d. Kevin Nash in the Hell In A Cell

Summerslam - HHH d. Goldberg, Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho, Randy Orton and Kevin Nash

Unforgiven - Goldberg d. HHH

Survivor Series - Goldberg d. HHH

Armageddon - HHH d. Goldberg, Kane


2004:
Royal Rumble - HHH d. Shawn Michaels

Wrestlemania - Chris Benoit d. HHH, Shawn Michaels

Backlash - Chris Benoit d. HHH, Shawn Michaels





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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.98
    Originally posted by MonteCarl
    Maybe that's what I had in mind when thinking of all the HHH World Title matches. Rather than EVERY World Title defense having HHH in them, it's been every PPV title defense since the split that has had HHH in them. Is that not an accurate statement? We've established that HHH has headlined every RAW exclusive PPV, but what about the joint PPVs before they were seperated from each other and all the "Big 5" PPVs? Is there a PPV listing on a website somewhere that lists the PPVs and the main events for those PPVs?

    --Monte N


The last time there was a PPV that he could have had a title match but didn't was Summerslam 2002 where he was in the street fight with Shawn Michaels. See here for PPV details. Since then he has always either defended the title, challenged for the title, or one occasion there was no title match.


Unforgiven 2002: vs RVD
No Mercy 2002: vs Kane
Suvivor Series 2002: Elimination Chamber
Armageddon 2002: vs HBK(c)
Royal Rumble 2003: vs Scott Steiner
No Way Out 2003: vs Scott Steiner
Wrestlemania 2003: vs Booker T
Backlash 2003: no title match, he was in a 6 man tag match
Judgment Day 2003: vs Kevin Nash
Bad Blood 2003: vs Kevin Nash
Vengeance 2003: SD PPV
Summerslam 2003: Elimination Chamber
Unforgiven 2003: vs Goldberg
No Mercy 2003: SD PPV
Survivor Series 2003: vs Golgberg(c)
Armageddon 2003: vs Goldberg(c) & Kane
Royal Rumble 2004: vs HBK
No Way Out 2004: SD PPV
Wrestlemania 2004: vs HBK & Chris Benoit
Backlash 2004: vs HBK & Chris Benoit(c)
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    Originally posted by MonteCarl
    And didn't Goldberg and Kane have a match on RAW at one point when Goldberg was champion?


... Goldberg was champion? (checks archives) Hey, how 'bout that? I'd conpletely forgotten that bit of agony.




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Well, I interpreted exactly as you have, Steph has to be the one to be pinned in order for her to leave (and which makes me fear that if Steph happens to pin Triple H, she would be the champion). I thought that was made clear.
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