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Apparently ESPN is doing an E:60 documentary on Scott Hall. And it ain't pretty.





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Looks like they have Hall (who participates in the documentary) re-create his infamous indy show episode where he had to be carried to the ring. Eek. It could be a reasonably high-profile look at the downside (underside?) of the industry.

I'd want to know who the director/producer of this is before saying much more.



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.89
Tragic.

I'm not sure I want to watch it. I'm not sure I can stomach it.



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I am really looking forward to this. At first I thought this was going to be one of those car crash documentaries, but seeing that Hall is in it might make it pretty informative. I've always heard the people say Scott Hall has these demons and all this baggage, but I have no idea what that could be.

I don't know if Hall is doing this to help himself deal with things, or just wants to get his side out before he dies, or is just short on cash. I just hope they do it right and don't short change the story for sensationalism.

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I think it is good in the sense that Hall is taking part in it and pretty much admits that he has a problem.

Whether or not it's sincere, we'll see, but I hope it is a wake up call.
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I'm curious to see this too. Anybody know when this will air? Anyway I'm curious why he does not check into a treatment center. Where are his friends in wrestling when he basically calling for help but is in so much denial. The wrestling industry needs to rally behind this man to get some help.



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    Originally posted by CajunMan
    I'm curious to see this too. Anybody know when this will air? Anyway I'm curious why he does not check into a treatment center. Where are his friends in wrestling when he basically calling for help but is in so much denial. The wrestling industry needs to rally behind this man to get some help.


Vince will pay for treatment.

Hall just has to ask.

There is no point rallying if Hall isn't willing to take the first step.



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Yep, Vince has already paid for treatment, I think around the time Hall washed out of the new Hogan TNA.

    Originally posted by CajunMan
    Where are his friends in wrestling when he basically calling for help but is in so much denial.


His friends have tried for years. Nash said something like, he's tried everything he can do to help him but he can't watch Scott 24/7.

    Originally posted by Hall
    I have been to about nine rehabs. They were high dollar and some of the best ones around. Vince has picked up the tab the last couple of times. If you ever work or worked for WWE, if you ever need help, he will give it to you. He is really cool. Thank Vince, his wife Linda, Stephanie, Shane and Paul . Thank you for helping me. It’s hard to ask for help. It’s even harder to accept it, when people offer it.


    Originally posted by Nash
    These people will say things like ‘you need to have an intervention’ or someone said ‘you need to take Scott fishing without alcohol’ and no one grasps the severity of what this situation is. This is someone that has been to rehab nine times and probably walked out three to four times. ... Scott has been through so many hospitals, so many psych wards, evaluations and so many rehab centers that Scott knows every catch phrase and he knows exactly what the psychologist wants to hear and we’re all workers – that’s what we are and in 72-hours Scott is gone.

    I can’t make Scott Hall want to live, I can’t make Scott Hall want to get better, I can’t make Scott want to repair his relationship with his children, I can’t make any of those things happen and the only one who can is Scott. When and if he does I will be the happiest person on earth. He always knows no matter what, day or night, if he needs me and really needs me or needs anything or anything of me or for him I will be there in an hour and he knows that. I can’t be his therapist, I can’t be his wife, I can’t be his rehabilitation specialist but I can be his friend. I think he needs friends more than he needs people telling him what he has to do or not to do. Lately it’s like the ninth inning, two out, a full count and they’ve walked into the baseball game and sitting in their seat and telling us what’s been going on in the game – I’ve been doing this for 17-years with Scott, you don’t just jump into the game and tell me what he needs to do because you haven’t been here, you haven’t lived it, you haven’t done that and Dana has.


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    Originally posted by CajunMan
    I'm curious to see this too. Anybody know when this will air?


According to the Torch, it debuts next Wednesday, October 19 at 8p ET.



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It was a solid piece, but cramming all of that in ten minutes left me wanting more. Hopefully there is an extended version someday.

I wonder how Shawn Michaels liked being part of one of Hall's featured road stories?

I always wondered how Hall was allowed to 'perform' in the infamous show, I guess we now know the answer to that. I think X-Pac summed the promoter nicely.

Hopefully, Hall can find some peace in whatever amount of time he has left.

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What I was saying before the JEW deleted me(Ihave a $100 bet this will get deleted too). Is that we finally learn what Scott's demons were when he was younger. If there was a positive side to this story it is that Cody Hall is in support of Scott during this hard time. It was also good to see Scott train Cody to be a wrestler.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.09
I give up



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Wow, you not only said it privately, but you said it publicly. Kudos! Please don't come back, and I really mean it this time.



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.09
Um...

Never knew about Hall killing someone. That was a pretty big reveal. Hall having Congestive Heart Failure means he's on borrowed time. It is what my dad died of. Even if he cleans up tomorrow he'd be lucky to get 10 more years depending on what stage he's in.

Watching the interview, there is still a spark of the old Hall there.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.93
http://espn.go.com/espn/e60/story/_/id/7112089/wwe-pro-wrestler-scott-hall-confront-substance-abuse-health-issues-e60 Here's a link to the video, if you'd like to see it.
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.55
For some reason I got it in my head that it was a full hour "30 for 30" type documentary, so I have no idea about the unnamed(?) wrestling fan in the room at the gimmicky story meeting who was behind this.

They sure flew past a lot of material to fit the Scott Hall story into 15 minutes. When I said that they re-created the indy show scene, I figured there was no way they could have had cameras that close. On watching the segment, it sure looks like that was original footage after all - someone would have to correct me if that's just some editing trickeration.

But if ESPN had a crew at that event, I think that changes how you look at the piece, doesn't it? I feel like I'm getting worked here.

The end result appears to be: here's Scott Hall, famous wrestler who couldn't handle his fame, or losing it - and listen to the sad tale of his current life. I guess it was meant more for the non-wrestling sports fan.



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