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Since: 11.7.02
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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29

    Originally posted by rikidozan
    Most people would argue that it has been 7 outages too many. It's reasonable to expect that the power companies will keep the power coming in 24/7.

7 outages in the last 38 years is a phenomenal success rate. When you consider that the likelihood of dying in a car accident is infentsemially greater than the largest man-made machine ever created failing, that's pretty damn good. Sure there is room for improvment, but we've done well.


    Originally posted by rikidozan
    I can't be the only one who drives by yet a new housing development on the way to some where. Supply will be going up more and more and unless something happens, this blackout could happen again, and over a much greater area.

And that is a fair question. Nobody ever thinks of the electrical grid whilst we continue to build and build.


    Originally posted by rikidozan
    I have heard that Europe (I'll have to actually do the research to comfirm this) has embraced nuclear power. Should we set-up more reactors across the nation to help our supply? Or would that leave us open to more terror attacks? (I dread to be around the fallout of a plane flying into a nuclear plant in my backyard *shudder*)

It doesn't matter if we embrace it. Environ-nuts would keep it in court for years and keep bitching that we should use cow shit, or whatever the fashionable alternative fuel is at the time.

We need to upgrade the grid now, regardless of the outstanding failure rate. Then we can worry about gettin better sources of energy.



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.00
I'm not sure...

I was more pissed than anything else at the coverage of the blackout (aside from the obvious "How are people there going to get news coverage?" things), if only out of spite. Memphis gets a hurricane, basically (sustained straight-line winds of 80 mph, up to 110), decimating the city for 2 weeks plus (took 16 or 17 days for everyone to get power back, took me 14), there's still tons of debris, and what's the coverage?

Fox News, and not much at that. That's an insult.

(Oh, you didn't hear about that?)

As to the current grid situation, yeah, I can agree that it does need to be updated, esp. (as riki said) because of all the new developments that are going up.





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#23 Posted on

    Originally posted by Grimis
    7 outages in the last 38 years is a phenomenal success rate. When you consider that the likelihood of dying in a car accident is infentsemially greater than the largest man-made machine ever created failing, that's pretty damn good.


The question is, why is so much area being covered by one machine? That's just absurd, no matter how big it is. It's practically BEGGING for something on this scale to happen. How much more would it have cost to- instead of making a single ridiculously gigantic machine (putting all your eggs in that one basket)- have several different systems each covering their own area specifically to avoid a huge, catastrophic blackout like this? Especially considering the cost of losing power over such an enormous area for an extended period of time?



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Since: 26.6.02
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#24 Posted on
TheCow, we have a similar thing over here every year with the news. Every winter, we get headlines of "Britain Grinds To A Halt In Blizzards", when in actual fact London has a couple of days in which there is a gentle layer of light snow, while the previous two months of 6 foot drifts in North England and Scotland is ignored.



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#25 Posted on
it happens everywhere. Whenever there's a heatwave in the midwest, it gets no mention until it hits Chicago, and then it becomes big news when it makes it out to NY. But, I did find the coverage of the blackout hilarious. It started like "Holy Shit! There's no power! This is awful!" then moved onto "Yeah, there was no power, but us New Yorkers don't let things like that bother us."



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Since: 26.6.02
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#26 Posted on

    Originally posted by eviljonhunt81
    it happens everywhere. Whenever there's a heatwave in the midwest, it gets no mention until it hits Chicago, and then it becomes big news when it makes it out to NY. But, I did find the coverage of the blackout hilarious. It started like "Holy Shit! There's no power! This is awful!" then moved onto "Yeah, there was no power, but us New Yorkers don't let things like that bother us."


New Yawkers should be careful. Between 9/11 and the Blackout, they are at risk of breaking both arms for the excessive patting themselves on the back because of their good behavior.

I'm reminded of a Chris Rock Bit:
NYC (bragging):"We didn't riot or burn the city down!"
ME: What do you want, a cookie? You're NOT SUPPOSED to riot you dumb Mother F'ers!!



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Since: 2.1.02
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#27 Posted on
Jim Caple has a great take on the blackout and NYC on ESPN.Com Page 2 (espn.go.com)



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Since: 11.7.02
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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
Don't worry though, Paul Krugman decided to blame Bush:

According to American economics professor Paul Krugman, public services have been cut back in many areas to the benefit of "tax breaks for the rich." By now, government agencies spend virtually no money on repairing the dozens of dilapidated bridges in major American cities, not to mention streets filled with potholes. Washington is withdrawing from more and more public services. Bush' credo is that the market will take care of things.

EDIT: More background

(edited by Grimis on 20.8.03 1505)


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