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Since: 10.10.02
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.26
Last nights show seemed like they were trying to start over, and I really liked it. Simple story lines and not too many of them.

Sylar came off as a bad ass, again. And seeing the agents marching the heroes into the plane while they were dressed up in prisoner clothes was cool.

Much better than the last slew of episodes!
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.56
The cynic in me says their taking all the comparisons with LOST a little too far. That said, the simplification of the story and the fact that they've got everyone more or less in one place together and the lines are very clearly drawn show signs of promise. Hopefully it won't fall apart in two or three weeks.

I'm curious about the extras with powers on the plane. I liked how one of them got sucked out the hole. It should also be interesting to see how Ando and Daphne go about trying to find everyone.

My only complaint is that Parkman getting the future-painting power seems stupid. Also, given the fates of everyone else with that power (save Peter), I can only wonder if he's in danger...



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.69
I'm a little upset that this is the second "reset" we've gotten in about the course of 12 episodes. It's getting a bit tiresome. I was thinking it wouldn't be a bad idea for Heroes to do a Lost-style recap show, but since they seem to want everyone to forget everything that happened 12 episodes ago, it'd be a waste of time.

Could Claire maybe wear a little more makeup? I didn't get the point they were trying to make. She's a grown up now. Okay. Nevermind that she still looks 16.

The Jack Bauer impassioned whisper that Sylar seems to have completely adopted is almost as annoying as Claire's breathless rushed speech or the way Peter always talks out of the side of his mouth with his teeth clenched.

The HRG swerve when the bad guys caught Mohinder was...not exactly unforeseen. How did Mohinder not notice they were driving back up the ramp?

Nathan as the bad guy is kinda sorta not interesting at all.

So Peter went from being an empath who absorbed through feeling to being someone who grabs powers literally through feeling? Does he rob powers like his old man did, or just mirror them? The quick reset on how he gets his powers back seemed very forced.

Tell me again how Matt suddenly developed the milk eyes future seeing? And how does a "normal" guy deal with talking to figments of his imagination?

I will say this: the end was strong enough to make me think it was a good show. I like that they set up two sides, but they kinda did that earlier this season. I like that they appear to have a team working together, but they've done that already too. They can't seem to resist bringing in new folks and splitting out old ones into storylines I just don't care about.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
    Originally posted by Pete
    Could Claire maybe wear a little more makeup? I didn't get the point they were trying to make. She's a grown up now. Okay. Nevermind that she still looks 16.


I noticed this too. I think that it was a miscommunication between the lighting and makeup teams. Claire's makeup was fine for very high-key lighting - the one scene where she's in real bright sunlight, she looks just fine. It's when she's in the dark, which she was for most of the episode, that she looks like a whore. If it wasn't just a simple miscommunication, I don't know what they were trying to accomplish with that makeup. It was more distracting than anything else.

    Originally posted by Pete
    So Peter went from being an empath who absorbed through feeling to being someone who grabs powers literally through feeling? Does he rob powers like his old man did, or just mirror them? The quick reset on how he gets his powers back seemed very forced.


Actually, if I'm not mistaken Peter always had to physically touch someone before he got their powers for the first time. He couldn't fly until Nathan grabbed him, he wasn't invisible until he bumped into Christopher Eccleston. Empathy is the device by which he can then continuously tap into those abilities.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.56
    Originally posted by Tenken347
      Originally posted by Pete
      So Peter went from being an empath who absorbed through feeling to being someone who grabs powers literally through feeling? Does he rob powers like his old man did, or just mirror them? The quick reset on how he gets his powers back seemed very forced.


    Actually, if I'm not mistaken Peter always had to physically touch someone before he got their powers for the first time. He couldn't fly until Nathan grabbed him, he wasn't invisible until he bumped into Christopher Eccleston. Empathy is the device by which he can then continuously tap into those abilities.


I think Peter's original power allowed him to gain other people's abilities by being in their immediate vicinity (without the need for physical contact) ... but then Arthur Petrelli stole that ability from him, and Peter had to inject himself with the formula in order to "regain" his ability.

Now, that brings up yet another question - did the formula "re-activate" Peter's latent empathic mimicry (heroeswiki.com) in a weakened capacity (whereby he now actually has to touch other people to gain their abilities), or was it just a coincidence that his "new" ability is so similar to his original power (since the implication was that the formula would give "normal" people - which Peter became after his father got through with him - totally random abilities)?

Phew, all that aside ... it wasn't that bad of an episode. I still think characters are acting totally counter to their original personas, but we'll see what happens; I am sufficiently intrigued enough to continue watching.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.76
    Originally posted by Tenken347
      Originally posted by Pete
      So Peter went from being an empath who absorbed through feeling to being someone who grabs powers literally through feeling? Does he rob powers like his old man did, or just mirror them? The quick reset on how he gets his powers back seemed very forced.


    Actually, if I'm not mistaken Peter always had to physically touch someone before he got their powers for the first time. He couldn't fly until Nathan grabbed him, he wasn't invisible until he bumped into Christopher Eccleston. Empathy is the device by which he can then continuously tap into those abilities.

They never really emphasized that Peter had to touch someone. He usually ended up with a power after just being in close proximity. This was the first time his power had a visual effect to go with it, which to me means he now has a slightly modified version of his dad's power.

The thing is, it looks like he only has the ability of the last person he touched. He touched Mohinder and hulked up, but when he accidentally touched Tracy, he started getting his ass kicked. Also, he seemed really concerned about being sucked out of the plane. He wouldn't be if he could still fly.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.29
As far as resets go, that was a good one. I stopped watching Heroes sometime last fall, so I don't know what happened toward the end of those storylines, but this episode was pretty good. If they keep up with this weird, novel concept of having a cohesive plot, I'll probably keep watching.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
    Originally posted by SchippeWreck
    The thing is, it looks like he only has the ability of the last person he touched. He touched Mohinder and hulked up, but when he accidentally touched Tracy, he started getting his ass kicked. Also, he seemed really concerned about being sucked out of the plane. He wouldn't be if he could still fly.


Huh. I hadn't really considered that, but I think you might be right. Which, on the one hand, makes his powers even more derivitive from the Rogue character, but on the other hand provides a fairly reasonable way to keep Peter from becoming overpowered to the point where you can never actually use him.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.29
I like limitations on Peter as well. He was even more overpowered than Sylar with the ease at which he could collect powers (too bad he wasn't much of a fighter or strategist). What happens with Rogue if she touches 2 people at once? Could Peter act as some sort of conduit to let other folks share powers temporarily?



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
    Originally posted by EddieBurkett

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    My only complaint is that Parkman getting the future-painting power seems stupid. Also, given the fates of everyone else with that power (save Peter), I can only wonder if he's in danger...


Matt Parkman has the most useless psychic ability I've ever seen: The ability to successfully predict that you will get your ass kicked in 2 minutes.

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Loved the Government black-ninja squad vs. Sylar. That was probably my favorite Sylar fight ever.



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.02
I liked it, didn't love it. I do worry that this plotline is a little too derivative of X-Men (it's not like the show didn't have a debt to them anyway) and Pete makes a good point that Nathan isn't a very compelling Big Bad.

Hopefully they will stop doing the fake killing off of characters. This is at least the third time they've "killed" Sylar and it didn't take; at this point I don't think they even expect anyone to buy it. The problem, though, is that when they do really decide to kill someone, we won't buy that either.

Always nice to see Zeljko Ivanek.

Nitpick: Wasn't Hiro's "lair" in Japan? If so, why does he end up on the same plane with all the heroes who were abducted in or near New York?
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.69
I thought Hiro's lair was in NY. When he tracked Ando, didn't the map's initial zoom show Manhattan?

Maybe he was in Little Shibuya.
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.39
I really enjoyed the episode and we finally get the Heroes all in one spot for what hope is a good chunk of the season. I didn't expect Noah to turn or everyone knowing Sylar was still alive. I did like how there was no background music while they were on the plane, a nice touch to add to the scene. So far, so great.
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