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ShotGunShep
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Since: 20.2.03

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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.74
I've always been a huge RPG fan. I've played nearly every Square RPG, Lunar, Wild Arms, and spent too much time on Everquest and a little time on DAOC. I don't have my games on me and I'm sure I'm missing some titles.

However, I have never played a tabletop game, and really have no desire to
But I keep hearing how great Baldur's Gate is. I gave it a try and didn't get any farther than getting to some big inn place where I was attacked. It just didn't click with me. I tried to get into it twice, but to no avail. Now I hear that Planescape is a great game.

Help me get into these games, I know I can, I just need some advice and encouragement!

I've also wanted to try the fallout games, but can't find them anywhere.


As long as we are on the subject, I recommend Exile III from www.spiderwebsoftware.com I first downloaded the demo of this game on AOL 3.0 and still haven't done everything. Ignore the graphics and dive right in!



SHOTGUNSHEP-probably the only wiener over 400 posts to have a rating under 3. I didn't know I was THAT bad. I try to convince myself that everyone who has rated me is just jealous. You guys just can't get rid of me.

And who ignored me? :(
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.08
I have Planescape, both Baldur's Gates, and Fallout 2. Wish I had Fallout Tatics, though I heard that Fallout one isn't nearly as good as 2.

Planescape is... complex. Mainly story driven, there is fighting, but it's not as big of a component. Talking to everyone can do strange things, and how you act determines where you stand on Good/Evil and Law/Chaos... It's easily one that can be played a few times to get all the tidbits you didn't get the last time.

Baldur's Gate is as good as the sequel, but both are good, pretty expansive and can suck down a lot of your life. Though there will be more combat, it's always my recommendation that you make a plain fighter for both games. You'll need a big strong straight up bruiser... though in BG 2 the addition of the Monk makes them a good choice too. And BG 2 does have forts you can get depending on the class you have, so you may wanna try a few different ones.

Haven't really gotten into Fallout 2 all that much, but it's like the others. Though the sheer number of choices for your main character can be a bit... confusing.

On that note I recommend Arcanum, it's a fun game mixing magic and fantastical Victorian technology. But like Fallout I haven't devoted too much to these games. Expansive character creation, not as much as Fallout, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

I recommend you try Chips-N-Bits... or Ebay. I don't know the email address for Chips... but they do have older games. Planescape and Fallout are out of print, but I have a precious copy of them.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.95
It's possible for a game to be absolutely incredible and still not appeal to people. Hell, I admit that, say, Civilization II or Alpha Centauri are grand feats of gamemaking, but their play mechanics just don't appeal to me.

If you don't dig it, you don't dig it. *shrug* Planescape is another great game, but it's similar to BG; there's enough of a difference in how you play that I'd recommend giving it a look, though.

Oh, and Iago, while I think Fallout 1 is pretty damned good (be warned, however, it's a lot harder than 2), be warned that Fallout: Tactics is NOT like any other game in the series. It's not even an RPG, really; there are a few choices you can make that influence the game, but make no mistake, it's a squad-based tactical game. So if you like Fallout 2's combat system (with some enhancements, ala different stances, vehicles, and throwable weapons that actually work) enough that a game centered around it appeals to you, then go for it. However, if you enjoy Fallout more for its story than its gameplay, don't bother with Tactics.

Personally, I like Tactics as a game, but it deserves fair warning.
Venom
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.00
Another thing is that the game is just so OLD (it came out in what, 98-99?) that it's not gonna appeal too well to people trying to get into the series. For instance, I went back and bought Half-Life (for 10 bucks) a few weeks ago, and while I can see why people said it was beyond awesome way back 5 years ago, it just doesn't interest me to play it considering how old the graphics are and that most of the revolutionary features from the original have been copied and refined a bajillion times over in other games that I've played...

While I'll recommend older games only for hardcore fans of the genre, I can't see casual fans or curious gamers getting into them because of how dated and generic they appear to be after a few years...




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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.90
Yeah I still own Shinging Force 1 and 2 for the Genesis, and will bust that out to play it. The graphics aren't that great, the game play questionable. But I still love to play them. SF1 cheated constantly, or was buggy and so looked that way, SF2 wasn't so bad, but...

There are a lot of older games that are good, but I don't recommend them too much. Even games a few years old seem dated. But, not being a hardcore gamer myself I know it's possible to get into something that you wouldn't normally do if the mood strikes. Though the games you are askin' about require a bit of commitment.
ShotGunShep
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.74
Graphics or dated games don't really get in my way, unless we're talking 2600 or something. Hell, if I had my Apple IIC, I'd pop out Space Quest 2 right now(how many of you under 20 have played games on a green monochrome screen?).
Speaking of Shining Force 2, ever tried it on the Game Gear? Great game, but pretty insanely hard, specially when you played it during middle school. But it's worth the play through for the challenge alone.

Venom, 98-99 games really aren't that old. Lots of people still have an NES(I just played through RCR a month ago). I still play Super Metroid or Castlevania 4(as well as other countless NES and SNES titles).

My problem with Baldur's Gate(and I tried to play it about 2 years ago) was that I got my asked kicked. I expected to leave that town(after doing everything I could in it) and go out and beat the crap outta small things so I could become more formidable. But it didn't really work that way. I just ended up getting my ass kicked after I went very far.
I guess my question is(and I am going off memory here), am I even supposed to try to level up right away? Am I supposed to let those two guys(that are obviously malefactors) join up with me. What do I do after I get to that Inn Tower place. I tried going EAST and SOUTH, but only found big giant things in some swamp that ate me alive. I didn't want to go to Gamefaqs, but I guess I should, unless I am missing out on some key idea or concept that I carelessly missed.



SHOTGUNSHEP-probably the only wiener over 400 posts to have a rating under 3. I didn't know I was THAT bad. I try to convince myself that everyone who has rated me is just jealous. You guys just can't get rid of me.

And who ignored me? :(
Chumpstain
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Since: 21.1.02
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
In Baldur's Gate, I really recommend you play a fighter-type character. Either a Fighter, Ranger or Paladin. The game ends when your main character dies, so making him as tough as you can is a big help. My recommendation is to simply follow the plot. Don't wander too much at the start, because you're pretty weak. Recruit the 'bad guys' at the start, or don't, that's your call, but once you get to the Inn you'll get two 'good' party members, Khalid the fighter and Jaheira the druid. Arm your characters there, make sure Imoen has a bow (she really shouldn't be meleeing), and from there go to the south as your new party members suggest. The first main dungeon to the south is full of weak kobolds that will help level you up, and once you're level 2 or 3 you'll have more freedom to roam and defeat some of the extra monsters.

If you're brave, when you find the ranger named Minsc in the southern town, you might want to try his mission before doing the first storyline quest. It sends you to fight gnolls, which are a little difficult but not impossible. The experience they gain will level you up a bit more quickly, and you can get a couple of nice items as well as another party member by going that route. And you get to keep Minsc himself, which is a plus because he's one of the cooler videogame characters ever. ;)
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