Sorry DMP and Loosie you guys got it all wrong. Edge's wife/fiancee whatever is Val Venis' sister! As proof, after Edge defeated Godfather, he gave her a hoe dressed in red. That was Val's sister. In late '99 they did some tv stuff where Val would call Edge his future brother in law, and he switched Val from being the best man to Christian.
"It is a strange fate that we suffer so much fear and doubt over so small a thing...such a little thing." -Boromir
Val's gimmick has got to go, that whole towel thing took way to long and killed the crowd. I liked Val best as Trish's assainssin in all white. That was tuff!
RVD does a pretty similar DDT sell to Val. Always liked it, since I'm a big DDT mark and people just don't sell having their heads driven into the mats like they used to. I get a kick out of RVD's old "bounce six inches into the air 'cause I've got a spring for a spine" piledriver sell, too.
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Agreed, the DDT rocks. The best sell of one I saw recently was Trish taking that DDT from Jazz during that wet t-shirt contest. Trish hit face first at like a 45 degree angle, and her legs bent backwards and looked like they damn near touched the back of her head.
Yeah, I remember RVD selling the hell out of Dreamer's DDT a while back. Loved it!!! On the subject of selling. Rock oversells the stunner. I think the best he did was the night after WMX7 when he was getting his ass handed to him, it just seemed more believable to me.
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They've just completely killed the DDT as a believable finisher. It's actually kind of sad that now, people think a wrestler's being made to look weak if he gets pinned by one... I mean, I know the piledriver's been phased out for fairly legit safety concerns, but from a kayfabe perspective, a DDT is pretty much the same type of move, except it's your opponent's weight driving you down instead of your own.
Ah well. All they need is a few more people willing to sell the move like Val, RVD, and Trish, and it'll get back over.
Kansas-born and deeply ashamed The last living La Parka Marka: He drove the hummer!
I remember when Jake Roberts was the only guy with the DDT. Then the Garvin/Hayes Freebirds started using it, and before you know it, it became a pretty standard move. Too bad, it used to be treated the same way as the Stone Cold Stunner is now--I remember watching a Eighties Mid-South match where everyone was astounded that Roberts' opponent kicked out of the DDT! That NEVER happened.
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Sorry DMP and Loosie you guys got it all wrong. Edge's wife/fiancee whatever is Val Venis' sister! As proof, after Edge defeated Godfather, he gave her a hoe dressed in red. That was Val's sister. In late '99 they did some tv stuff where Val would call Edge his future brother in law, and he switched Val from being the best man to Christian.
Nod. You are absolutely right. Thanks for reminding
DDT's as standard moves are alright. But everybody has to sell them big time. Two counts or two-and-a-half. That way the more special DDTs (Evenflow-though standard looks sweet, Edge-a-cution) are good finishers.
I love the spike DDT sell, however, Buhbuh Ray's sell is good too, considering he is a big guy. He falls totally flat, which makes sense, you couldn't expect a 300+ guy to be pulled onto his head by one simple movement.
"...And I use that to f*ck them some place fairly uncomfortable." "What, like the back of a volkswagen ?" -Mallrats
I actually feel sorry for Val, since I think he's pretty much trapped in his "pornstar" gimmick. No one would recognize him without it, and the directions it could be taken in are few and far between. It's a dinosaur, a remnant of the days when there were people from every profession "moonlighting" as wrestlers, like "dentists" and such. These days the WWF seems to be more about using your personality as a gimmick rather than having a gimmick and using your personality to make it appelaing and memorable. I think it's a pity that the writers had to go with the easy way out and stick Val back in his "Big Valboski" image rather than repackaging him for a new chance at being a legitimate contender.
For my money Sheamus is the best brawler in the WWE. Brutal, physical matches, albeit with little technical wrestling, even though he keeps the Texas Cloverleaf in his back pocket.