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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.38
The build to this PPV was poor, but it looked like a good event on paper. Did it meet expectations?

Cesaro vs Ziggler lead off in a 2 out of 3 falls match. Ziggler swept the falls in somewhat of a surprise, but you never know which way the wind is blowing with these guys. It was a fine match, but I'm not a Ziggler guy and hate seeing Cesaro stuck as really over qualified enhancement talent.

Nikki vs Brie in loser is the others assistant match. Brie is awful, Nikki is okay and she won. Hooray for shenanigans to follow.

Gold and Stardust vs The Usos. This actually might have been the second match now that I think about it. These guys were solid, but they're always solid. Dust Brothers keep The Cosmic Keys.

Cena vs Orton in a THIS TIME IT MATTERS WE REALLY MEAN IT match. To me it was standard fair between the two with no need for a Cell. Cena wins with an AA off the table and looks no worse for wear when it was over. This just wasn't for me, your mileage may vary.

Miz vs Sheamus. Sheamus wins, then they kind of ruin the whole Mizdow thing by making Sheamus do YMCA with a knocked out Miz while Mizdow had to join in. Announcer chuckled and JBL yelled a lot so you know it was funny. They just can't leave a good thing alone.

Rusev vs Big Show. WWE can still build monsters and still do Russians really well. Rusev pretty much dominated this and made Show submit. Mark Henry came down for what looked like an obvious heel turn, but got a kick to the face by Rusev for getting on the apron. America is in trouble people. (Unless that Rock thing really happened and counts)

AJ vs Paige wrestled a match. They tried and were given time, but these two just don't really mesh. The super dead crowd didn't help. AJ won.

Rollins vs Ambrose in the match of the night. They started on top of the cage with Noble and Mercury. Ambrose and Rollins went through the tables as they were climbing down and were both almost stretchers out until Ambrose rose from the dead and attacked Rollins throwing him into the Cell to officially start the match. These two put on quite a show with some nasty looking table and chair spots. Ambrose busted out some cinder blocks and then...

The screen went black, we got some weird chanting the screen came back to show a dark arena with a lantern, some smoke and a hologram in the center of the ring. Ambrose stood and stared and then Bray attacked giving Rollins time to cover Ambrose and head for the hills. Bray Wyatt stuck around and gave Ambrose a Sister Abigail and that was that.

Not a good ending to a great match. I like the return of Bray, but that was straight up WrestleCrap. Undertaker could kind of pull that shit off, Bray is no Undertaker.

This was an okay show. It had some stuff I liked. I hoped Cena-Orton would move the needle more, but it just didn't and that ending was messy.

Edit: There is some kind of Network fail. They mentioned a post show fallout. They sent me a push notification reminding me. I was sort of excited to watch it, and then they just went straight to the PPV replay. That's kind of embarrassing.

(edited by BigDaddyLoco on 27.10.14 0012)
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Since: 28.4.02
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.65
Couldn't disagree more. I loved everything about that ending. All I wanted after two by-the-numbers hours was to be surprised and they absolutely delivered. In two minutes, Bray Wyatt managed to feel like Bray Wyatt again - and the concept of a Wyatt/Ambrose feud is incredible. Loved it.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.89
I've liked most of the PPVs since I got the Network but this was pretty bad in my opinion.

Cesaro vs. Ziggler - Good like usual but to do a proper 2 out of 3 falls match you really need more time. Ziggler's first pin came very early and out of nowhere. They should have just scrapped that pin and made it a one fall match.

Nikki vs. Brie - I like some of Nikki's offense. I'm glad she won and she did it with no shenanigans, which is unusual for a heel.

Cosmic Twins vs. Usos - Fine match, maybe one of the two or three best matches of the night but that isn't saying much for this card.

Cena vs. Orton - I just watched Hell in the Cell 2009 with Cena vs. Orton and that match was better than this one.

Miz vs. Sheamus - Big Daddy is spot on with this one. Mizdow was entertaining again but then Sheamus took it too far with a lame ending. I really hope that Miz goes on a losing streak and then Mizdow turns on him because he's tired of pretending to lose.

Rusev vs. Big Show - Rusev continues to impress me. I was expecting a Henry/Big Show encounter, maybe they wanted to keep them together for a Survivor Series team match first?

AJ vs. Paige - I love these two (three if you count Alicia at ringside) but they really just haven't been given anything to do. I'll note that Alicia inadvertently helps AJ win and Paige attacks Alicia after the match. Three-way now?

Rollins vs. Ambrose - This was a GOOD match but there was something flat about it for me that stopped it from being the epic it should have been. Then the Wyatt interference made it come to a screeching halt. I don't even mind that the interference was kind of goofy, it just didn't make sense. Why interject Wyatt in a feud that didn't need it? Why not feud him with one of the dozens of people that have nothing to do? And they have to come up with a REALLY good explanation for this. Why did Wyatt attack Ambrose? Why did he essentially help the Authority? I don't believe for a second that the WWE is going to present us with a reason that makes sense. Also is Ambrose going to move on to a Wyatt feud without us ever getting a clean ending to this feud? Ambrose/Rollins should have been a slam dunk feud of the year but instead went downhill really, really fast.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.04
a g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-
GHOST!!!!!

Hell in a Cell, where cathartic blowoffs become groaner screwjobs, three years running.

Can't be arsed to care about everyone's customary hard work after that, but the Bellas did have a better match than Pai-J, sorry 2 the haterz but Bellas gonna ball.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
I'm glad the Cena/Orton match was in the middle and wasn't the "true" main event. Was hoping people would fight on top of the cage and as soon as Ambrose came in with a tube on a strap with a Kendo stick in it, I knew he was going to be climbing. They looked pretty damn high up there. Rollins and Ambrose fell from above the middle of the cage into the tables. I went back to watch King of the Ring '98 to see if Foley fell from higher but the Hell in the Cell was shorter back then! Mick Foley was able to toss a chair up there in one try and easily climb up twice. Really hate the ending. It was like Wrestlecrap with the smoke and hologram. Every Rollins vs Ambrose match seems to end up with Ambrose ALMOST winning then someone interferes and he loses. I thought being in the Cell that wouldn't happen. Was already worried because stupid Kane was there with the fire extinguisher. Meanwhile, Roman Reigns always wins against Rollins. Ugh.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.01
Maj that crowd was eating up the action on top of the cage.......then that finish...oof.

Also, was I seeing things or were there clearly platforms mid way down for them to stand on while setting up the double table spot?

The rest of the show felt like a RAW. That's not a good thing.

I hope they go full Von Erich and Sunshine(or was it Prescious?)/Jimmy Garvin with the Bellas angle.
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
    Originally posted by StaggerLee

    Also, was I seeing things or were there clearly platforms mid way down for them to stand on while setting up the double table spot?



Just rewatched that part right now and yep, there were little platforms for Rollins and Ambrose to stand on. I guess safety first in case they get tired and can't hang on long enough.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.19
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    AJ vs Paige wrestled a match. They tried and were given time, but these two just don't really mesh. The super dead crowd didn't help. AJ won.

It's because AJ wrestles like a female mini-Muta and Paige wrestles like Big Show, and neither one is good enough to make the styles mesh. I've been hating on Paige for a while now and this match did nothing to change my opinion. The match started out well when AJ was flying all over the ring. Then came the plodding, yelling, and poorly done skipping. Seriously, how hard is it to skip? The one thing I agreed with JBL about all night was when he said the best taunting is to stand above your fallen opponent with the title raised high. They just need to end this program. It's been spinning its tires since the beginning and there's no positive direction in sight.

Speaking of JBL, who is the target audience of the show? There's a big difference between smart pop-culture references and whatever it is they're trying to do. When your freshest reference is almost 40 years old, it's time to get new writers.

The ending made no sense, it was complete WrestleCrap, and it left the whole thing feeling flat. The only redeeming thing for me was, oddly enough, Randy Orton. That RKO out of the AA was beautiful and perfect, so of course the announcers blew the call live and blew it on the replay 10 seconds later. Thumbs way down for the whole event.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.14
I'm not mad that Rollins won (I am a little mad that Rollins won), but is it too much to ask that these two ever, ever have a match with a clean finish? I just want one guy to do his move and beat the other guy. And normally I'd be way into Ambrose/Wyatt, except that right now you have Ambrose coming off a massive losing streak, and you have Wyatt, who was so damaged that you took him off TV so you could rebuild him. Whoever loses this feud is going to look like an absolute chump, and at this point I think we can all tell it's going to be Ambrose. Is this intentional, or do they think this is somehow helping his character?
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
I'll at least give them a couple points for giving some pizazz to the tried and true "DE-" run in.

In post-SummerSlam WWE, I think that's all we're allowed to ask for anymore.

(edited by Wiretap on 27.10.14 0806)
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.94
How many cage/cell/chamber matches has Bray interrupted now? Three?



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.11
Read it and weep, fella


The main event was the wrong match to interfere in (Rollins/Ambrose feud was just fine the way it was, leave it alone), wrong way to do it (the long blackouts and hokey smoke effect just confused everyone [including me] and I couldn't make out what the heck was happening with the hologram), and the wrong person to do it with (I love Bray Wyatt, but he's better served feuding with a "straight man", not another crazy person).

Hard to say how I felt about Ziggler/Cesaro. It's weird to see two guys who should be doing so much more being put into the same match against each other. I guess I should be happy Ziggs swept Cesaro, but then why did Cesaro have to get swept? If it happened the other way around, id still feel the same. Either way, no one wins IMO.

Uso's/Weirdo's was awesome like it always is, Miz/Mizdow may have jumped the shark, BLEH to all the ensuing Bella shenanigans. Everything else on this card was largely forgettable, including/especially Cena/Orton XXVII.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.36
I honestly feel bad for anyone who spends money on these PPVS. They are not even really trying at this point in time. Ambrose is getting the Bryan push from last year. In push, I mean we are going to make you look like a chump for months and be literally shocked when the fans revolt against us at a major PPV when they are cheering for you. It may end well for Ambrose, but Bray is damaged goods no matter how much time off he has. Why of all the matches, he picks this one, who knows and I doubt they will give an explanation.

Ambrose/Bray would be fine for the summer. If anything to get Bray away from Cena, yet he is their number one face. Yes, you heard me, number one face and he is being shoved to the midcard. So, we get Team Rollins vs. Team Cena and Team Bray vs. Team Ambrose if we are lucky. If we are not lucky, we get Cena burying Rollins on his way to beat Brock Lesnar and head into Mania.

Yeah, the NFL and the Walking Dead are back thus killing your Sunday nights, but you don't have to raise the white flag at SummerSlam or for the next six months.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.33
What I don't understand is why there's so much confusion about "Why would Bray Wyatt interfere in that match". It's been close to a year now that the Wyatt Family has been doing the Authority's bidding. It's been reasonably subtle as WWE storylines go, in that the commentators aren't beating us over the head with it, but it's still there plain as day. You don't remember Bray attacking Daniel Bryan to distract him from Randy Orton for a few months? Bray targeting John Cena to likewise protect Orton? How when the Wyatts ran afoul of the Shield and they demanded a match with the Wyatts from Triple H, so Triple H told them it wasn't a fight for them to take and insisting on it meant there'd be consequences? The Shield had been good Authority lapdogs for a long time, but Triple H went so far as to side with the Wyatts over them. And that's not even talking about whether Kane's kidnapping by the Wyatts might have influenced his prompt decision after returning to become Corporate Kane.

A better question would be "What does Bray Wyatt get from helping the Authority", but him messing with Ambrose to save Rollins is perfectly in line with the actions he's taken over the last calendar year.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.52
    Originally posted by Chumpstain
    What I don't understand is why there's so much confusion about "Why would Bray Wyatt interfere in that match". It's been close to a year now that the Wyatt Family has been doing the Authority's bidding. It's been reasonably subtle as WWE storylines go, in that the commentators aren't beating us over the head with it, but it's still there plain as day. You don't remember Bray attacking Daniel Bryan to distract him from Randy Orton for a few months? Bray targeting John Cena to likewise protect Orton? How when the Wyatts ran afoul of the Shield and they demanded a match with the Wyatts from Triple H, so Triple H told them it wasn't a fight for them to take and insisting on it meant there'd be consequences? The Shield had been good Authority lapdogs for a long time, but Triple H went so far as to side with the Wyatts over them. And that's not even talking about whether Kane's kidnapping by the Wyatts might have influenced his prompt decision after returning to become Corporate Kane.

    A better question would be "What does Bray Wyatt get from helping the Authority", but him messing with Ambrose to save Rollins is perfectly in line with the actions he's taken over the last calendar year.


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(edited by Dionysus on 27.10.14 1210)
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.64
Dean Ambrose tries to beat Seth Rollins and has these big PPV matches, has Kane, Bray Wyatt, and pretty much anyone else interfere and loses every time.

Roman Reigns walks right in on a random RAW and just beats Rollins straight up without even breaking a sweat. No one even tries to interfere or stop Reigns from winning.

Cool story, bro. So we're just going to forget about Ambrose ever beating Rollins now? Ambrose is just going to drop his anger and channel it towards Bray? I understand that this is a basic feud transition in WWF/WWE, but usually there's at least some resolution to the initial feud before the handoff.


Orton should have beaten Cena, if just so that Brock has more of a list of challengers he has beaten as champion heading into WrestleMania. I enjoyed their match, though, and figured since Orton won the last HIAC with Cena, and every PPV match against Orton last year, that Cena should have beaten Orton at some point. But the cost may be too great here.

Solid wrestling, but not much that I cared for in terms of plot development.

(edited by SKLOKAZOID on 27.10.14 0901)
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95
Seeing the pre-cut foot and hand holes made for climbing the cage kinda took a little something away for me.

Wonder if Dean said hello to Bray hiding under the ring as he was rummaging around looking for weapons.
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.30
    Originally posted by dwaters
    Seeing the pre-cut foot and hand holes made for climbing the cage kinda took a little something away for me.

    Wonder if Dean said hello to Bray hiding under the ring as he was rummaging around looking for weapons.


I was thinking the same thing about the holes in the cage but figured the explanation could be that they are there in case the crew needs to do any maintenance to the cage on top. Of course that wouldn't explain two sets of holes right next to each other, but close enough.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.89
    Originally posted by Chumpstain
    What I don't understand is why there's so much confusion about "Why would Bray Wyatt interfere in that match". It's been close to a year now that the Wyatt Family has been doing the Authority's bidding. It's been reasonably subtle as WWE storylines go, in that the commentators aren't beating us over the head with it, but it's still there plain as day. You don't remember Bray attacking Daniel Bryan to distract him from Randy Orton for a few months? Bray targeting John Cena to likewise protect Orton? How when the Wyatts ran afoul of the Shield and they demanded a match with the Wyatts from Triple H, so Triple H told them it wasn't a fight for them to take and insisting on it meant there'd be consequences? The Shield had been good Authority lapdogs for a long time, but Triple H went so far as to side with the Wyatts over them. And that's not even talking about whether Kane's kidnapping by the Wyatts might have influenced his prompt decision after returning to become Corporate Kane.

    A better question would be "What does Bray Wyatt get from helping the Authority", but him messing with Ambrose to save Rollins is perfectly in line with the actions he's taken over the last calendar year.


So the WWE doesn't really know what to do with their two biggest stars (Cena and Orton) other than have them wrestle each other a billion times, they don't have anything to do with their best workers (Ziggler and Cesaro), they ran one of the few funny gimmicks into the ground (Mizdow), they have nothing for tag teams or women to do, they turned the lunatic fringe into a cartoon character, but they have been masterfully booking Bray Wyatt for a year?



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95
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