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Since: 20.6.02
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After yesterday's vote:

1: Stephen Harper wins his much-desired majority.

2: The NDP are now the Official Opposition.

3: The Bloc Quebecois are no longer recognised as a political party, now having three seats total.

4: The leader of the Liberals and the above mentioned Bloc both lost their seats. Coincidentally, they both announced they're leaving politics.

5: The Green Party FINALLY get a seat.

Wow, what a change in the political landscape.

I voted Conservative, and the NDP won in my riding - in fact, I think that the only NDP riding in Alberta is where I live. Don't quote me on that.

Canadians...how do you feel this will all impact the country? Did whomever you voted for get into office? Are you disappointed with the results? Did you predict this? Let's discuss!



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Since: 2.1.02
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I went to the polling station and turned down my ballot for the first time since I became a registered vote in 2000 when I turned 18.

My voting history is very right leaning, with votes cast for the Canadian Alliance, and the Conservatives x3.

I went with the intention of voting Conservative once again, but I don't feel Stephen Harper is the very best Canada can do. He is a very polarizing figure, and when the entire lefty Nation is rallying around voting for Anyone But Harper - I'd say you're doing a poor job of reaching out to your naysayers.

I firmly believe that as long as Harper is in power, he will continue to alienate two thirds of our country, and that doesn't seem right. You're an elected official of the people, and would expect that if he can't appease them, to if nothing else do something to try and soften things.

You can say what you will about prior governments and what-not, but despite my card carrying Conservative status, I truly believe that former Liberal leader Jean Chretien was as fine a leader as we ever had. He had a pretty straight forward agenda, was firm in his beliefs, but likeable enough that very few people could actively be enfuriated with his politics.

This election came down to:

- Michael Ignatieff running on the "I'm Not Stephen Harper" campaign, a tried and tested platform that never ceases to fail miserably (last seen: US Federal Election 2004, John Kerry). The Conservatives picked up a lot of the Liberal vote which led to the Majority.

- Jack Layton running on the "if I plant a bunch of nickels out back of 24 Sussex Drive, I'll have a money orchard and all of our problems will be gone" platform. Unbelievably, this seemed to work like gangbusters as he essentially stole all of the Bloc Quebecois' seats.

Definitely getting a kick out of English Canada celebrating the temporary death of the Bloc as being victory over the Seperatistes ... you know, assuming that was even part of their gameplan, which it hasn't been in over a decade. A little education goes a long way, dear voters.

All in all, interesting times lay ahead. I'm pleased with the result, just not the figurehead.



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Since: 4.1.02
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I'm pretty let down by the results, given that I'm worried about what Harper will do with carte blanche to run the country. It's going to be a long 4.5 years, or considering the terms of who Harper gets onto the Supreme Court, even longer.

Ignatieff, you are useless. The NDP's surge came about because a) Layton was easily the most likable and trustworthy of the party leaders and b) the Liberals seem to have forgotten that they're supposed to be a left-leaning party. Seemingly all the lefty voters got disgusted by the Libs and went en masse to the NDP.



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Since: 20.6.02
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    Originally posted by Big Bad
    I'm pretty let down by the results, given that I'm worried about what Harper will do with carte blanche to run the country. It's going to be a long 4.5 years, or considering the terms of who Harper gets onto the Supreme Court, even longer.

    Ignatieff, you are useless. The NDP's surge came about because a) Layton was easily the most likable and trustworthy of the party leaders and b) the Liberals seem to have forgotten that they're supposed to be a left-leaning party. Seemingly all the lefty voters got disgusted by the Libs and went en masse to the NDP.
If anything, Layton looked like he was having FUN out there. I don't care for the man's politics, but I think that if the campaign would have lasted longer, he could have won it.

I'm hoping, that with a majority government, we can see further movements to repair and build Canada's economy. One thing I hate about minority governments is that without the support of any opposition, nothing gets done.

Ignatieff alienated Alberta by suggesting he wanted to tax oil companies further. The oil companies are my bread and butter. My job revolves around them. Thanks but no thanks.

    Originally posted by cfgb
    I firmly believe that as long as Harper is in power, he will continue to alienate two thirds of our country, and that doesn't seem right. You're an elected official of the people, and would expect that if he can't appease them, to if nothing else do something to try and soften things.
Considering that the majority of NDP votes came from east of the Manitoba/Ontario border, that's easy to see. I'm reminded of an old saying that suggests that "you can't please everyone". I guess the best thing anyone can do it have faith.




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Since: 2.1.02
From: Kitchener, Ontario

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I'm not happy with the results. I voted NDP because I can't stand Ignatiaeff. And unfortunatly Harper now has a majority and carte blanche to do what he feels like because the left split the vote. Most of these GTA ridings the the Cons won they won with less than 40% of the vote in that riding.

Canada elected a government that was found in contempt of parilament to a majority. The also re-elecetd Bev Oda with an overwhelming majority in her riding. This is a women who after getting everyone to sign a document about funding, turned around and cancelled the funding by writing the word 'not' on it after the fact. This is a party that has refused to let the rest of Canada see exactly what they spent on the G8/G20 summits where spending was out of control.

On a side note there is a referendum on May 5th in teh UK about elctoral reform, the choice is FPTP (First Past he Post) which is currently what Canada has or AV (The Alternate Vote), which you go in and 'rank' your votes, (you don't have to rank everyone either). I think an AV system would work very well in Canada. But we probably won't see Harper allow a referendum because he already united the right.

That's right the Reform party now rules Canada.



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Since: 2.1.02
From: Whitby, Ontario, Canada

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I kind of sit on the fence with this result. We didn't need to have this election in the first place, so the best thing about this is that there won't be another one until at least 2015.

For the first time in my life I did not vote for any of the "big three". I voted for the Green Party, who were the only party that actually put our ads that spoke of the future and governing the country, as opposed to attacking the others.

Locally, here in Whitby Jim Flaherty, the current Finance Minister, was not going to lose. The NDP and Liberal candidates were both clueless. The Green candidate, Rebecca Harrison, was well-spoken and has a terrific future in politics, IMO. I was going to refuse my ballot as mentioned earlier, but she won me over with her speeches and her debate performance.

I am so happy for Elizabeth May that she won her seat and will get a chance to go to Ottawa and move the Green Party forward. (I know one seat isn't going to do much, but it does bring her and the party forward) One small step at a time for a new party.

I feel bad for Ignatieff and I do believe that Canada lost out with him quitting. He could never overcome two things.

1> Conservative attack ads that began the day after he became the Liberal leader. These ads have run non-stop and really poisoned the electorate against him.

2> There was no way in hell the Liberals were going to do as well in Ontario, not with the people here waiting patiently to oust the Liberal provincial government this fall. I truly believe that is the main reason the star Liberal candidates like Dryden and Kennedy lost.

Onward we go with the Conservative government, which is as corrupt as the Liberals before them. I just hope that I will be able to keep my job at a small business, while they help out the billionaire oil companies and banks, because they need the help more...

The NDP get a one-term chance to be opposition, with the support of most Quebeckers, who obviously were voting for Layton, as some of the actual candidates (see Ruth Ellen Brosseau) couldn't have actually garnered the votes.

For those who don't know, Ms. Brosseau doesn't live in the riding she ran in, doesn't speak French even though the riding is French, and went to Las Vegas during the campaign. However, she was elected to Parliament.

The next four years will be interesting, to say the least.





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Since: 20.6.02
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    Originally posted by CFGB
    I went to the polling station and turned down my ballot for the first time since I became a registered vote in 2000 when I turned 18.
Out of curiosity, why did you turn down your right to vote? What benefit does that offer? That's not cool. We have low enough voter turn out to begin with.

My general opinion is that if someone doesn't vote, they lose the right to complain about the current government.



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Since: 2.1.02
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I agree with turn down/spoiling ballots. It acheives nothing. You might as well just not vote. And with 60% voter turn out that's pretty depressing.

There must have been some parties platform that you at least mostly agreed with.



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Since: 20.6.02
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.51
    Originally posted by Loosie
    I agree with turn down/spoiling ballots. It acheives nothing. You might as well just not vote. And with 60% voter turn out that's pretty depressing.

    There must have been some parties platform that you at least mostly agreed with.
A great point. It'd be better to vote for an Independent than spoil a vote. I recall doing that during the previous provincial election: I didn't identify with any of the major parties' campaign promises or leaders, so I voted for someone else. Lord knows, they deserve the support.

My general belief is that if the 40% of the registered voters were to have voted, we could have ended up with a completely different result.





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