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And only Gossage. Blyleven misses again, as do Dawson and Rice. Reported by ESPN just now.




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...and McGwire took only 23% of the vote. Wow. Still no Andre Dawson or Dale Murphy, my two favs of the current class.

Now, to find out which two writers voted for Travis Fryman...



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Since: 13.2.03
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And the Hall of Fame Shawon-O-Meter finishes at .002

Congrats to the Goose, and to Jim Rice as well.. with one last chance next year, I'm pretty sure no one's ever got that close, and not subsequently made it in. No problem with either of those candidacies here, and I'm solidly behind Dawson and Blyleven, as well as Alan Trammell.

I think the surprise here is that McGwire got no bounce at all. I was figuring there was a lot of "no way we make him a first ballot 'famer" sentiment, but looks like there were no new votes at all. That's not good news for Bonds, Sosa, Clemens, et al.

Although I think as people figure out how widespread the performance enhancing has been in the last generation, a lot of these guys will have better prospects down the line. Possibly not McGwire, since when you put his numbers into the offense-inflated steroids/small parks/depleted pitching era - he looks more and more like a latter day Dave Kingman to me.



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Harold Baines just hit the 5% threshold to stay on the ballot, and no one else came close. Everyone who missed, really missed:

Rod Beck, Travis Fryman, Robb Nen- 2 votes

Shawon Dunston, Chuck Finley, David Justice, Chuck Knoblauch, Todd Stottlemyre- 1 vote

Brady Anderson, Jose Rijo- 0 votes.




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Who votes for Todd Stottlemyre? That person's voting privileges should be revoked.

My Ballot:

Bert Blyleven
Rich Gossage
Mark McGwire
Alan Trammell
Tim Raines

I am now an official voter in the Pozcars (Joe Posnanski of the KC Star's blog Click Here (joeposnanski.com) ), so it's really an official ballot now!




(edited by pieman on 9.1.08 1230)


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Since: 7.11.02
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.73
    Originally posted by pieman
    Who votes for Todd Stottlemyre? That person's voting privileges should be revoked.

    My Ballot:

    Bert Blyleven
    Rich Gossage
    Mark McGwire
    Alan Trammell
    Tim Raines

Seconded. This would be my exact ballot as well. I think it's unconscionable that Trammell and Raines' vote totals were so low.

As far as why stupid votes are cast, it's because stupid people vote. I'm sure many of you have seen this (I got to it through the Fire Joe Morgan blog), but here's a summary of some of the Worst HOF Arguments of this year (vegaswatch.net)
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Here's a good article re: McGwire

Click Here (hofmag.com)

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It's one thing to be selective but another to be elitist. The writes are really starting to lose credibility. Was McGuire even mentioned once in the Mitchell report. I know it's not the final word and he acted bad in front of Congress but c'mon.



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How long until the Hall takes it out of the writers' hands and makes the selections themselves?
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    Originally posted by Bullitt
    How long until the Hall takes it out of the writers' hands and makes the selections themselves?


This would, if anything, make things much worse. Then you'd get old-timers on the veterans committee inducting old teammates and buddies with pathetically non-HOF stats.



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.12
    Originally posted by Big Bad
      Originally posted by Bullitt
      How long until the Hall takes it out of the writers' hands and makes the selections themselves?


    This would, if anything, make things much worse. Then you'd get old-timers on the veterans committee inducting old teammates and buddies with pathetically non-HOF stats.

Or not letting anyone in, like they've been doing lately.
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    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
      Originally posted by Big Bad
        Originally posted by Bullitt
        How long until the Hall takes it out of the writers' hands and makes the selections themselves?


      This would, if anything, make things much worse. Then you'd get old-timers on the veterans committee inducting old teammates and buddies with pathetically non-HOF stats.

    Or not letting anyone in, like they've been doing lately.

And that's a good thing. Considering how many looks anyone being considered by the VC has had by this point they should be electing very few people. When you've been considered and rejected 20 or more times like many of these guys have been, they probably should be done by that point, instead of hanging around and getting in because they're the best of who is left out.



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